flexxskins Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 this guy is too muchI really don't understand your attitude about the subject.It's obvious that Kelly is as brittle as a twix bar and that he will probably be best served working behind a desk. But, your quote seems almost like you are blaming him.:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 If Malcomb stole a check were the physicians who had given him physicals,etc, partners in crime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 So Kelly purposely injured his knee his rookie year. Good to know. He probably got the idea from Rocky McIntosh who also knew he had knee issues and has been swindling the team since '06.I'll never understand why some people can't see how disrespectful they are because they can't form any kind of criticism without adding insult. Did anybody say he purposely injured it? Nope. Did they know the huge risk was there? Yup. Did he happen to get hurt? Yup. Was it unexpected? Nope. That last sentence of yours is comedy gold. Calling somebody defensive is an insult, but calling someone bat**** crazy is constructive criticism. Good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Kelly isn't stupid. If he didn't participate or put forth any kind of effort (coupled with his lack of perforamance), he wouldn't be long for any roster. He'd still have a few million, but less injuries. A greedy, self-interested player, as you assert Kelly is, wouldn't be likely to put much work in, nor go to AZ for extra work, nor try and get into camp right away on an injured hamstring and risk worsening it. It just doesn't add up. Fact of the matter is, ultimately injuries just happen and the blame goes to chance. Ahh, but that doesn't provide a target to vent at, so some fans go after the player, coach, or whomever was responsible for bringing him in because said fans can't separate emotion from criticism in a discussion, nor apparently can they focus on any positives instead, such as the open roster spot and other WR candidates, to provide a useful discussion instead of theusual unproductive **** storm they usually create or at least contribute to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 So Kelly purposely injured his knee his rookie year. Good to know. He probably got the idea from Rocky McIntosh who also knew he had knee issues and has been swindling the team since '06. What drugs are you taking? Seriously. Where did anyone say he purposely hurt his knee? You don't even make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_89 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I have no words:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 He'd still have a few million, but less injuries. A greedy, self-interested player, as you assert Kelly is, wouldn't be likely to put much work in, nor go to AZ for extra work, nor try and get into camp right away on an injured hamstring and risk worsening it. It just doesn't add up. Fact of the matter is, ultimately injuries just happen and the blame goes to chance. If he can stay on a team, he can make more money. Fact is, not practicing when you've shown nothing doesn't keep you on a team. He's in, so why wouldn't he want to stay as long as possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horton_Predator48 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Sucks but it gives another guy an opportunity. Survival of the fittest. No room for woulda, shoulda, coulda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 So I guess Malcomb is still being delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Hello Armstrong. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffBattles Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 well....it makes the roster cut decisions a lot easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Skins72 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 What a Loser I understand that you are disappointed that he has not panned out, but calling an injured Redskin, even an oft-injured Redskin, a "loser" is inappropriate. That being said, if it turns out he has work ethic issues ala fat Al, and this is an injury that is the result of him being out of shape, then I'd be in agreement with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Terrible turn of events. I will feel bad for the guy.... as long as he doesn't undeservingly end up on the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Did anybody say he purposely injured it? Nope. Did they know the huge risk was there? Yup. Did he happen to get hurt? Yup. Was it unexpected? Nope.That last sentence of yours is comedy gold. Calling somebody defensive is an insult, but calling someone bat**** crazy is constructive criticism. Good to know. The assertion was Kelly went to the draft early because essentially he knew he would be injured again the following season. My comment about purposefully injuring himself was obvious sarcasm (followed by "good to know") to demonstrate how asinine the assumption is that he was planning on being injured. It wasn't unlikely he would get injured at some point. And you plan for it, but you don't expect it unless you're a callous jerk. Like I've pointed out to you, McIntosh had similar knee concerns. Did he swindle the Skins because he knew he'd be injured? How about Adrian Peterson's injury concerns? Or how about the Redskins medical staff which cleared him? I guess Kelly paid them off. You know I wasn't referring to "defensive" as an insult, but rather the language and comments you use in regards to players, such as "useless" right at the end of that same sentence you mentioned. Plus, you know as well that I'm talking about criticism of players, since they can offer no rebuttal. And I said you were bat **** crazy because of your opinion, which takes assumption as fact and is used to assume the worst about a player you don't know. I was stating my opinion, not a constructive criticism, though judging from what you think constitues factual evidence, I'm not surprised you are incapable of making a distinction between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacoby6644 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Lots of people fired up about this. Bottom line is that he can't seem to stay health therefore can't learn the offense and help make this team better. If the coaching staff feels at some point he can contribute, he'll be placed on the PUP list or IR and given a shot in a 6 weeks or next year. If not they will cut him so the Redskins and MK can move on. Plain and simple. Then we can all move on to the next drama! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 If Malcomb stole a check were the physicians who had given him physicals,etc, partners in crime? Does that include the team doctors that told Vinny not to take him but they did anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 What drugs are you taking? Seriously.Where did anyone say he purposely hurt his knee? You don't even make sense. I explained it in a later post what I meant. Peculiar that you and Hunter jump all over it because you don't understand the intention, and assume I'm making stuff up and try to call me out based on your presumption and desire to fit me into a pre-determined character judgement that assumes only negative values (hence the childish "are you on drugs?" rather than attempting to understand what I meant). I say peculiar because such seems to be the modus operandi for you both in this thread, and many others previosuly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell's_da_man Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Well, at least he got to toss the ball around with McNabb in Arizona. That's good enough reason for missing the season, isn't it? Maybe Vinny will take the bum in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadirtbags Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 He just put himself on the IR imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackest Eyes Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 He just put himself on the IR imo. I think this is what will most likely happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Does that include the team doctors that told Vinny not to take him but they did anyway? Ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 kelly probably realized that injuries were inevitable for him and instead of risking injuries in college and falling out of the draft, he just went for it in the NFL. not his fault or no ill will towards him, its vinny for not doing enough homework. everybody knew he had health concerns coming out of college and vinny took a gamble. and failed. as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 If he can stay on a team, he can make more money. Fact is, not practicing when you've shown nothing doesn't keep you on a team. He's in, so why wouldn't he want to stay as long as possible? But you said he entered the draft early because he wanted to swindle a big pay day out of someone because he knew he'd get injured again and wouldn't last. If he went in with the mindset that he wasn't going to last, then why would he try to last on the team? If what you say were actually true, he would collect what he could while he could since he knew he was an injury waiting to happen. You are tying to claim now that Kelly entered with a short-term goal knowing long-term goals were impossible due to his knee, but that he was looking long-term anyways because of money. That makes no sense. You keep trying to say money was the sole motivator, I assume because making Kelly out to be a greedy crook allows you to villify him and vent. Is it really that difficult for you to feel bad for an oft-injured player? I don't get how you can fault Kelly for choosing to risk injury at the NFL level, entering the draft early as a projected 1st rounder, rather than risking injury at the college level and jeopardizing his future as most players in that situation do that, and not just in football. If he had stayed in college and gotten injured, and you were a fan of his respective college, it wouldn't surprise me at all if you called him an idiot for choosing to stay in college instead of going Pro. If Kelly really believed he couldn't last on the field and needed to get a payday ASAP, I don't see why after getting it he would put in anything more than the bare minimum requirement in order to keep his job and not risk injury. He wouldn't have gone to AZ if that were the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy316 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Well, it figures. Dude is a BUST. Thanks for the wasted pick(s), VINNY!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 So basically Devin Thomas owes his continued career to Malcolm Kelly's legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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