cphil006 Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Media members can be an easy target, but, like Burgold said, they're simply doing their job. If Haynesworth is standing in front of you and saying dumb things, would you cover your ears and walk away? Didn't think so. perhaps we should stop reading a particular paper or boycott particular writers, like Jason La Canfora. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Letting Haynesworth depart will have a salutary effect on the Redskins. Anyone remember how the Cowboys improved after they said goodby to TO? In the NFL, few individual players can determine a team's overall success. usually these are your franchise quarterbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuterBanksTarHeel Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 The media issue is often over-simplified by fans. The business is more competitive than ever today, and--key word--it's a business. The object, outside of the most basic wire reports/releases, is to produce interesting stories, and--let's be honest--most of what occurs in the sporting world between the lines is boring, as far as stories go. What do people expect, feature articles on McNabb's throwing motion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&GBlood Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 perhaps we should stop reading a particular paper or boycott particular writers, like Jason La Canfora. If all you want is sweetness and roses, then just read team website. Its not hard to understand or weed through bias and agenda when you know what you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashburn Dave Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Yes, they're doing their jobs. Fixed it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 The sports media overall seems to be pretty-anti Redskins. When I say that, I don't mean I think they want this organization to fail. I think when Dan Snyder bought the team, the media felt a certain way about him, and will cater their stories to fit that description. Look at how McNabb is being treated by the media. Anytime he throws an incompletion, the first thing mentioned is how he has a "history of being inaccurate" and then it is followed by saying how awesome and accurate Colb is. We are talking about a QB who has started 2 or 3 NFL games in his life. Lets look at how the media was bashing Snyder up and down the block when it was rumored he was clamoring to move up and pick Sanchez in the draft. The stories were about how much Sanchez was not NFL-ready. Another dumb move on the horizon for the Skins etc etc....suddenly he gets drafted by The Jets and Sanchez is slobbered all over by the same media. When we lost Fred Smoot, the media acted like we had just lost a Top 5 corner. However, when he was a Redskin, the media always said his skills never match his mouth. Lately, it is Campbell. The media was bashing him as average at best, he was berated by Gruden on national tv. Yet when he gets traded to the Raiders, he is suddenly going to turn that franchise around.... It is getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub70s Posted August 24, 2010 Author Share Posted August 24, 2010 The Press will be the Press....in the 24 hour news cycle they'll Press for anything to talk about. I sent Doc Walker a twit telling him to help his buddies in the press understand that the coaches, players, and fans want to hear about something else besides #92. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub70s Posted September 9, 2010 Author Share Posted September 9, 2010 I wonder if anyone thinks I am crazy after both Shanahan and Allen critized the media. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/09/shanahan_cautions_media_on_dis.html http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2010/shanahan-vs-media-haynesworth-will-be-here/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gart Monk Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 The problem is that the fish stinks from the head down. Snyder, who is a media guy, wrecked this organization by playing fantasy football with it. He bought into the 1999 Redskins that became NFC East Champions and then proceeded to have six head coaches in ten years. Every incoming coach had opposite personnel needs and coaching theories than the previous coach so a lot of good football players careers were ruined as a result of it and we, as fans, have suffered for an entire decade. The media has every right to hammer this team until they start winning. Blaming the media for poor performance is a sign of an organization so shamed that it just doesn't care anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farbod21 Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 You guys are wrong and the OP is right. I live outside of DC so I see it from a different perspective. I live in Los Angeles. I keep tabs on DC reporters and their treatment of the Redskins. DC sports media members LOVE the skins losing, being embarrassed, and doing stupid things. Most of the reporters are not from DC so they have no ties or bias towards DC teams and fans. They want to stir up controversy and they all have each others backs. Its actually a sick thing to watch. When something bad happens to the skins or something bad "might happen" you should see the reporters on twitter. Laughing and giggling like school children, giddy as can be. When other teams have media transplants protecting their team (Dallas and Mosely; Giants and Peter King; etc) we have a bunch of saboteurs disguised as Redskins Beat Reporters. It started with JLC and has quickly spread. To top it off, the ex-redskins players that cover the team were basically kicked off the team and remain bitter... If you dont see it, you are truly blind. Its so apparent that its become obscene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 controversy creates cash Ask yourselves why the Skins are always on the TV. Wether its a news story or a game, we are always on TV. We've not done anything of note for almost 20 years yet we are the second most profitable team in the league even after spending more money in FA then every other team in the league? How in the hell is that even possible? The answer is the media. While all of the praise goes to the darling Cowboys, all of the controversy goes to us. We are the Yang to there Yin. One team is praised constantly, the other embarrassed and shamed constantly. There is a reason for this and it is done on purpose. Controversy creates cash. Our owner made his fortune by selling yours and my personal information to evil corporations who harass us. Most everyone calls that SPAM and hates it but that never stopped him from getting rich off it. He is no fool and doesn't let ethics stand in the way of making a buck. Like PT Barnum he knows too well that even bad press is powerful and worthwhile. Yes the media isn't fair to us but make no mistake, it's on purpose Before I came into this thread I thought this was about that amazing line from Shanny saying he wasn't going to allow the media to watch practices anymore because they gave away too much information and we were losing a competitive advantage. I absolutely loved hearing that and believe that exact things hurt us more then most realize. I'm proud our head coach sees the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 That's bull****. You know their jobs would be easier if this was a winning team. The Skins do this to themselves by parading out Larry Michael to complain about haters, and then say he'd take Jason Campbell over Peyton Manning. Fact is that the Skins are a 4 win team, and get upset when they are talked about like a 4 win team. How many seasons start with Larry Michael saying they will prove the haters wrong? Only to be wrong himself? There are cheap shots here and there, but they've brought this on themselves with how they've handled their business the past decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 That's bull****. You know their jobs would be easier if this was a winning team. Oh come on man think about this statement. How much are the Skins on TV? How often is the biggest news story of the day some kind of disaster? I'd bet that we've been on TV more during the offseason then the Colts have been this year. It's always like that. Dirt sells better then feel good stories. Don Henley "Dirty Laundry" comes to mind, that's the way the world works. People love talking about the misfortune of others and would rather do that then listen to success stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAAZ227 Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 I feel the past 10 years is to blame, but the media does tend to never let go. The new regime is very tight lipped and it doesn't give them enough to talk about. That's why things are like a broken record around here with this Haynesworth news. This is the Nations Capital after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Oh come on man think about this statement. How much are the Skins on TV? How often is the biggest news story of the day some kind of disaster? Sorry, I don't agree. I think the reason the news has been bad is because the reality up until this year has been bad. Even this offseason we had the Haynesworth mess to deal with. The Skins start winning and you'll see a ton of coverage of that. If they lose, there will be coverage of that too. We don't get to pick and choose reality here. It is what it is. 10 years of shambles isn't undone overnight. Look how Snyder and Vinny corrupted Gibbs II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Sorry, I don't agree. I think the reason the news has been bad is because the reality up until this year has been bad. Even this offseason we had the Haynesworth mess to deal with. The Skins start winning and you'll see a ton of coverage of that. If they lose, there will be coverage of that too.We don't get to pick and choose reality here. It is what it is. 10 years of shambles isn't undone overnight. Look how Snyder and Vinny corrupted Gibbs II. When I turn on NFL network and hear analyst talking about the Saints, I hear the word "hangover" mentioned quite a bit. Why? they just won the SB. Things are great for them, yet the bad always goes with the good. It's like that with just about everything. I think your misunderstanding me. I'm not blaming the Redskins media saying they make up stuff to make us look bad. I'm not saying that we don't deserve all of the bad press we've gotten over the past 10 years. I'm not saying that at all. What I am saying is true. Bad news travels farther and faster then good does. One person praising you will not go as far as one person bashing you. It is easier to talk about negative things then it is to talk about good things. Sorry if you don't believe this is true but it is. It's also true that the media has hurt us in the past giving too much information away, and being too critical. At any time over the past 10 years Snyder would have been able to put a stop to the bashing had he wanted to. All he needs to do is talk to select people and they would have been told to lighten up or no access would be granted. Instead he's taken the much more powerful and profitable road and let it go on and on and on because the man knows a rule that PT Barnum knew as well....Even bad press is good for business So let the naysayers say whatever the hell they want to. Let the radio stations he owns bash the hell out of him, the team, our present and future. The more people talk about the Skins the more money he makes. We certainily are not the Jaguars where the fans dont give a damn. It works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 You mean the past where Vinny could call ESPN to leak information? That's when the media told too much? We had a front office that wasn't fit for a Pee-Wee team. Its weird you say that about the Saints because I watch a lot of ESPN and NFL Network and minus the former player who's opinion means **** to me. Most folks feel the Saints can make another run. You hear the same teams in the list of "Good". Saints, Pack, Vikings, Ravens, Colts, Jets. If you want to see the bad, you can find it somewhere. There is always somebody who wants to pick the 49ers or Cowboys every year, though there is no real reason to believe they will do it. Even if the Skins lose but aren't a cluster**** this year, you'll see attitudes slowly change. Especially if they finish strong. Don't let anybody lie to you. This probably is a rebuilding year. Those do exist still. Lots of turnover and changes to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaozerker Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 We'll in the 24 hour news cycle, I've seen reporters interview each other about oversensationlizing stories....no reason to think that DC sport media is any different. "Well Mr. Reporter, what's your opinion on what player X said earlier today?" :box: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Its a mixed bag IMO. When the redskins win they really do overhype the redskins too. I remember when the redskins were on that 6-2 start with Zorn, after the eagle's game people said Campbell would be MVP. I heard Superbowl talk and nothing but great things about the redskins. Watch what will happen if the skins beat Dallas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan190 Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Not at all.The issues for the Washington Redskins the past decade have been created by their leadership. Agreed. I don't care for some of the washington sports media but they had nothing to do with our on field success or lack there of. With that said, as a aspiring sports reporter I look up to alot of reporters and try to learn from them. Reporters like JLC are the worst. Can't stand him. Glad he's not with the Post anymore. Still shocked he got Sheft's old gig with the NFL Network. O yeah, I go away for a couple of months and everything gets changed up on here. When this happen. I was on here a couple of weeks ago for a preseason game. I like the new site tho. Looks newer. Glad to be back and I can't wait for this season. We gonna shock some people! Hail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Even if the Skins lose but aren't a cluster**** this year, you'll see attitudes slowly change. Especially if they finish strong. Don't let anybody lie to you. This probably is a rebuilding year. Those do exist still. Lots of turnover and changes to work with. This is pure BS . Not the this is probably a rebuilding year part but attitudes will change . As an outsider looking in especially over the last ten years then the last time I saw the Washington press give the team the benefit of the doubt and get behind them was in 2000 and that massive spending spree. Ever since then it has been a dog pile . I remember Sally Jenkins - just another Joe article, which was uncalled for and came in the middle of the 2005 season and we went 5-1 in the division and fell just a little short . In 2006 did things change ....did they **** . Where was the supportive local media in the aftermath of the Sean Taylor slaying and the infamous Wilborn comments about Taylor probably doing something to bring this on himself . Then you had the open war with the WP and the team initially about the restricted view seats which escalated...then you have the WP beat reporters just simply not doing their job and making stuff up like Nunyo files http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?96374-The-Nunyo-Files-Factual-errors-and-other-mistakes-from-Nunyo.&postid=1287986 and JLC who just had some kind of break down ....does anyone remember his assurances that Dre Bly was going to be traded to the skins ..a story which he recycled for weeks after he was traded to the Broncos ... The Haynesworth thing is low hanging fruit . What gets me about most of the local media coverage of the Titans story is that it was made to sound like Shanahan was so sick of big Al he was activly shopping him . What happened was the titans called us to see if the price had changed from around the draft . If someone comes to your house univited and puts an offer on your home that doesnt mean you are fleeing the area . The Washington press revels in the negative and it not a recent phenomenon . In his time JKC had feuds with the Washington Times ...it is as traditional as HTTR... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossomo Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Is the Washington Sports Media part of the Skins problem Not just Sports Media but Media in general. That JournoList that was leaked this spring pretty much exposes the cabal of corrupt journalists and how they use their respected media platforms and combined synergy to help shape what's considered national news however artificially created and hyped. Like the cowboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allskins Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 When the Redskins start winning, all this negative media stuff will go away. Fans are gonna love the media when the Redskins start winning big. I remember our super bowl years, the media was a blast. I can't wait for it to happen again! :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I don't think you can blame the media for capitalizing on doing business. As citizens and even more so, Fans of the team that represents the capital of the free world, we can't ignore Capitalism. Our nation was born and based on this ideal. As another capitalist entity, The Washington Redskins (owned by one of the biggest Capitalists), should have handled this situation better. I am just as sick of the ongoing scenario as the rest. I do not feel sorry for AH. I do not feel sorry for the Washington Redskin company. I do feel very sorry for an extremely disciplined and highly well respected head coach, together with the other committed teammates, and the die hard fan base that is getting stressed out about the continual garbage. At this point there is truly only 2 options for the organization to take in dealing with this issue. I believe that the first and foremost option is to continue with what the head coach has attempted to accomplish. To be strict and maintain the integrity of the goals set forth about dedication and rewarding effort to form cohesion should remain the objective. Even if it means taking more shots from the media. The other option is to leverage the player. Get what you can because it's now too much of an ongoing issue to be resolved. Getting adequate value at this point is not likely. Nor is reasonable to expect that AH's value will change. Hopefully the unexpected will happen and AH will step in line and become the Pro Bowl player that he got paid for. HTTR!!! and God Bless America!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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