OrangeSkin Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 Is he still the 4th receiver? In my mind, he's been at least surpassed by Patrick Johnson. He's deficiencies really showed through. Blazing speed, but no hands. You can run a 3.2 40 and it doesn't do you a damn bit of good without the ball in your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins26 Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 He's just raw, really raw. As you could see its not natural yet for him to run his route and know when to look for the ball, then that worried him a bit and he dropped the other one. He needs work but he'll get there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 I dont know if I'd say PJ surpasses him. I know PJ had a good game this week, but thats follwing a horrible game last week. If anything I'd say that McCants has his spot on the roster back after a mexmorizing catch today. It was just beautiful how he caught it and threw off two defenders and ran like 4 or 5 more yards. just beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 I was disappointed by Russell's drops tonight. He has serious wheels and was constantly open. If he can just get his damn hands on the ball and keep them there, he'll be a dangerous weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 He'll make the team based on his "potential" and draft position alone. If he doesn't get a handle on things by next training camp, though, he's a goner. I thought McCants may have had one foot out the door, but that play he made was big-time. I'd be surprised if Spurrier let him go after seeing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvidFan Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 Originally posted by OrangeSkin Is he still the 4th receiver? In my mind, he's been at least surpassed by Patrick Johnson. He's deficiencies really showed through. Blazing speed, but no hands. You can run a 3.2 40 and it doesn't do you a damn bit of good without the ball in your hands. A 3.2 40! damn, i knew the boy was fast, but he must be the flash.... seriously though, as discouraging as that dropped pass was, i think his speed and his ability to get open will keep him around. and who knows, maybe he'll light it up against jacksonville. btw, did yall see rob johnson miss him when he got behind the secondary. if johnson could throw, that woulda been another 6. but oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 He sure didn't help himself tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 I know other's said different, but when I was in camp, Patrick Johnson looked like the clear cut fourth receiver to me. Russell just looked raw, he struggled catching the ball in camp. While I was there, Johnson didn't look like much of a drop off from the top 3 guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ax Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 from Avidfan btw, did yall see rob johnson miss him when he got behind the secondary. if johnson could throw, that woulda been another 6. but oh well. If it's the play I'm thinking about, on the replay from the opposite endzone camera it looked like Johnson thought Russell was going to cut in front of the defender, and that's where Rob threw it. But Cliff went aroung and cut behind the defender and the pass looked waaaay off. When Russell got to the sideline it looked like SSjr was motioning to him that he should have cut in. Did anybody else see this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 Based on last night, if they cut him I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised. He didn't play well at all. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanjoe Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 Would everyone agree with these recievers being on the final roster? Coles, Gardner, Jacobs, P.Johnson, McCants, Russell. Did Wood**** do enough to earn a spot on the team or is he a goner for sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 well, Russell missed all of last year with an ACL so he is in essence a rookie in 2003. Now how many rookie receivers taken in round 3 are really going to be ready to play right away? not many. Russell looked athletic but tentative. He was walking on eggshells after the mixup on the long ball. I have a hesitancy towards taking a player in the draft at WR that has questionable hands, despite his other assets. I think that is one thing you may not be able to help a player attain. But now that we indeed DID take a player at #3 because of his speed alone, we at least have to make an effort to see if we can work with Russell before cutting him. You don't just invalidate a fairly high choice lickety-split and give him over to somebody else for nothing If he can't play that will be evident over time and then you will see the team cut him in 2004. But you have to give the team a year at least of him being healthy and on the field before letting him go. After all, we waited 4 years for Stephen Davis to arrive and 3 years for Cory Raymer to show he was an NFL center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rg2k4 Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 He has shown enough potential to make the roster. You can't throw away speed like that soon he will come alive and make big plays. (Remember This is like his rookie season.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 In today's NFL you have to figure it not as his 'rookie' year, but as the second year we have invested in the guy with no return, and as it looks, no return in the foreseeable future . He's raw, but he didn't look raw to me,, he looked lost, like he had a problem with the playbook. If he got cut, i wouldn't be shocked. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 Boys and girls, if Russell's consistently getting open as some have said, that's good enough to make the team even if he has hands of stone. If Russell ends up the season with only 25 receptions, but averaging 20+ yards per catch with some long TD's, don't tell me that a defense won't have to account for him. We have a clear cut set of starters in Coles, Gardner, and Jacobs, and a capable backup in McCants. We don't need Russell to be Jerry Rice. He's simply here to be a home run threat who pulls coverage off of the other guys by creating dilemmas for safeties. If he settles in and gives us more, then great. But we don't "need" it from him right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTerps2002 Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 1. Coles 2. Gardner 3. Jacobs 4. Johnson 5. Russell 6. McKants The official list as I am making it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 Originally posted by redman Boys and girls, if Russell's consistently getting open as some have said, that's good enough to make the team even if he has hands of stone. If Russell ends up the season with only 25 receptions, but averaging 20+ yards per catch with some long TD's, don't tell me that a defense won't have to account for him. We have a clear cut set of starters in Coles, Gardner, and Jacobs, and a capable backup in McCants. We don't need Russell to be Jerry Rice. He's simply here to be a home run threat who pulls coverage off of the other guys by creating dilemmas for safeties. If he settles in and gives us more, then great. But we don't "need" it from him right now. Just to clarify... Russell wasn't just getting open, he was getting WIDE open. He obviously has the quicks. I think his poor performance is attributable to his unfortunate jersey number. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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