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LVSkinz

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And won as many as Nottingham Forrest over the duration.

That's some domination right there .....

Hail.

The desperation of the things you cling to is so adorable. I wonder who Forrest beat to the title to get those stone age trophies. What was it back then 8 teams?

And may take another 2 decades to get back. :P

Not if City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are forced to sell us their best players every year. Oh wait that only happens in Germany.

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Yeah, straight knock out Champions against Chanpions was SO easy to win.

As opposed to being able to lose half your games and still get out if the groups in the oh so much harder Champions League format.

Next you'll be talking about 'proper' trebles and never winning the league ......

Hail.

I know you wont be talking about proper trebels.

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CL, league, major domestic cup > every other trophy combo and the pinacle of single season achievment. If you have accomplished this you would understand.

Awww, that's super kind of you man.

To bring up the pinnacle of your greatest ever season that sits FOREVER in OUR trophy room.

You've brought this full circle. WTG you!

Hail.

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The desperation of the things you cling to is so adorable. I wonder who Forrest beat to the title to get those stone age trophies. What was it back then 8 teams?

Not if City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are forced to sell us their best players every year. Oh wait that only happens in Germany.

 

Oh yeah, I read that Citeh, Chelski, Pool, and Arsenal NEVER sell players.  LOL if you even believe this a little bit.

 

There is one big difference between EPL and Germany.  The German league has strict rules about team ownership and transfer money.  Local fans own at least 51% (most over 70%) of the club, so no sugar-daddy from Oil rich areas. Also, can't go into massive debt (ManU, I'm looking at you) during transfers.  Must keep proper budget.

 

Sorry lad, but the results speak for themselves.  ManU will struggle to get back into CL, even when they go deeper and deeper into debt to over-pay for players.  If they miss this year, you can forget any more coming to play for EPL only.

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The desperation of the things you cling to is so adorable. I wonder who Forrest beat to the title to get those stone age trophies. What was it back then 8 teams?

Forest ( just the one 'r' )....disposed of Liverpool as it happens in the first round of the 78-79 European Cup, on route to winning the EC that season. Liverpool, at the time, we're the hold over champions from the previous two seasons..

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Oh yeah, I read that Citeh, Chelski, Pool, and Arsenal NEVER sell players.  LOL if you even believe this a little bit.

 

There is one big difference between EPL and Germany.  The German league has strict rules about team ownership and transfer money.  Local fans own at least 51% (most over 70%) of the club, so no sugar-daddy from Oil rich areas. Also, can't go into massive debt (ManU, I'm looking at you) during transfers.  Must keep proper budget.

 

Sorry lad, but the results speak for themselves.  ManU will struggle to get back into CL, even when they go deeper and deeper into debt to over-pay for players.  If they miss this year, you can forget any more coming to play for EPL only.

 

Do one of those teams get to buy or sign for free players on a yearly basis from the rest of the top clubs is my question? Your closes rivals to the titles are your feeder clubs. With all those strict rules I see one club infinitely richer than the rest. You better be getting results man David Moyes with a heroin addiction could win that league with Bayern.

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I thought I would share this partly as a proud parent and partly to annoy the Man U fans in this thread  :)

 

It was my youngest lads first session at the Man City Academy last night - U8's and 9's (he is 8). It was REALLY impressive. He spent the first hour doing specialist goalkeeping training (2 keepers and one coach) and then the 2 keepers joined the outfield players for a series of games. The games were 2v2 and then 3v3 outfield players with the two keepers - teams on and off every time the ball went out of play or a goal was scored.

 

Its hard to explain the pace and intensity of the session and the games. Everything was done with a ball, the emphasis was on speed of thought, creating space, using the ball and finishing. Some really skilful players and  immense commitment from everyone. Just the pace at which players came on and off the pitch as teams were switched and movement between drills etc. Just impressive.

 

It all lasted 2 hours and there was hardly a pause for breath apart from drink breaks. Davin was dripping with sweat at the end but enjoyed every second - he did well too. Looked right at home which was quite an achievement given it was his first session and this was his first experience of something of this class. He more than held his own.

 

They do this 3 nights a week.

 

If this is whats happening at Academies up and down the country the future of English football is bright - assuming someone gives some of these lads an opportunity to actually play some first team football when the time comes! By the way the coaches estimate that 1% of kids they have at this stage will ever kick a football in first team football - and these kids are the cream of their age group to start with.

 

Now the funny(ish) bit. I was chatting to one of the other Dads as we watched the session - Darren Fletcher! He has twins and they are both in the City Academy and were part of the session! What that says about the Man U Academy I have no idea ... 

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I thought I would share this partly as a proud parent and partly to annoy the Man U fans in this thread  :)...

 

Its hard to explain the pace and intensity of the session and the games. Everything was done with a ball, the emphasis was on speed of thought, creating space, using the ball and finishing. ... It all lasted 2 hours and there was hardly a pause for breath apart from drink breaks. Davin was dripping with sweat at the end but enjoyed every second - he did well too.

 

... Darren Fletcher! He has twins and they are both in the City Academy and were part of the session! What that says about the Man U Academy I have no idea ... 

 

That's awesome! If you don't mind, keep posting about what they do during their training sessions. I'm very interested in that stuff.  

 

The bit about everything done with a ball and minimal breaks is how coaches are supposed to structure training sessions. Makes me happy to know that what we're taught by USSF is the same as what is used at the top level. Still I get a lot of parents, who ask why we don't do any conditioning (wind sprints, run laps, etc). They don't understand that you get 2 or 3 75 to 90 minute sessions a week and running without the ball is a waste of time. 80 out of 90 minutes of medium to high intensity soccer IS conditioning (and it's football specific). 

 

The club I coach at has a 17 YO GK that got an invitation for trials for both Manchester clubs. That was before the summer, don't know if he's going to go or go play college. "Unfortunately" (it's not really a bad thing, but I prefer we were linked to an English club) our partner club is Sampadoria, so they come once a year to look at our players and see if they want to bring any over. 

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The club I coach at has a 17 YO GK that got an invitation for trials for both Manchester clubs. That was before the summer, don't know if he's going to go or go play college. "Unfortunately" (it's not really a bad thing, but I prefer we were linked to an English club) our partner club is Sampadoria, so they come once a year to look at our players and see if they want to bring any over. 

 

He must be good if he is getting invites at that age - 16/17 is when they are really weeding out to decide who gets a pro contact. Wish him the best which ever way he goes. I think if I was advising him unless he is REALLY good I'd be thinking of taking a College scholarship and getting an education.

 

Again only 1% of the kids that the clubs take at 8 ever kick a ball in the first team also the average height of a Premiership Goalkeeper last year was 6' 5".  A bit like NFL teams don't tend to draft QBs unless they are 6' 3" plus there is a physical prototype for keepers as well. I'd do the trials though and at least keep my options open.

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He must be good if he is getting invites at that age - 16/17 is when they are really weeding out to decide who gets a pro contact. Wish him the best which ever way he goes. I think if I was advising him unless he is REALLY good I'd be thinking of taking a College scholarship and getting an education.

 

Again only 1% of the kids that the clubs take at 8 ever kick a ball in the first team also the average height of a Premiership Goalkeeper last year was 6' 5".  A bit like NFL teams don't tend to draft QBs unless they are 6' 3" plus there is a physical prototype for keepers as well. I'd do the trials though and at least keep my options open.

 

Especially for an American GK. It's not like they carry a stigma like our field players. Brad Friedel did college. Tim Howard did MLS. Guzan did college.

 

The lesson that hasn't come across in the US is that we produce really good keepers because they are immersed in technical training for a decade or more. The field players don't get nearly that much focus on technical training. 

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Do one of those teams get to buy or sign for free players on a yearly basis from the rest of the top clubs is my question? Your closes rivals to the titles are your feeder clubs. With all those strict rules I see one club infinitely richer than the rest. You better be getting results man David Moyes with a heroin addiction could win that league with Bayern.

 

 

Ummm, yes, Chelski, Citeh, ManU (before this year) and even Pool buy players from teams further down the table, just like in EVERY league in the world.

 

The notion that 'anyone' could win the BL with Bayern is really one of the dumbest things posted in this thread, and there have been many.  Yes, the last 2 seasons Bayern have been off the charts good, both in the league and CL.  Since the EPL came into being, ManU won 13 times while Bayern won 11 times in same time-frame.  There were 5 different champions in EPL (ManU, Rovers, Arsenal, City, Chelsea) and 6 different champions in BL (Bayern, Dortmund, 1. FC Kaiserslautern, Stuttgart, Wolfsberg, Werder Bremen).

 

You should actually look at the facts before you spout off the nonsense that 'pundits' wrongly attribute to Bayern/Bundisliga.

 

By the way, you will have lots of free time on Tuesday/Wednesday nights for the foreseeable future.  But hey, maybe you can sneak into the Europa League sometime this Decade.

 

And by the way, let me know the next time ManU do something good for no money to help a good cause (Bayern Donate seats to school in Macedonia).

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