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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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Eventually Donovan will be gone. We need to know we can score.
No question. But scoring comes from controlling and creating in the midfield, and the US did a pretty good job of that last night with an average lineup. They did not score, but they shot the ball instead of waiting for the perfect opportunity, and earned some corners. I guess I am saying that I can see an improvement. Jurgen has a year or 2 to find a finisher and I think he will.

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When is Stuart Holden going to be healthy?

hurt again....6 more months

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Wow wheres the NY USA fans? Half the place is Ecuador.

this is one of the biggest problems for US soccer. Most Americans don't care about soccer and therefore don't support the National Team. Many Americans who do care about soccer do not identify with the National Team. I find it hard to believe that thousands of people would travel to NY from Ecuador on a Tuesday to see a friendly. We need people who are passionate about soccer who live and work in this country to be passionate about the National Team....we need everyone to feel as though this is their team.

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Where exactly will he find one? At this stage, you can score or you can't. Pro strikers don't just "figure it out" in their mid-twenties. The problems all our strikers have had, except for McBride, is that they don't have a) the goal scoring instinct and B) the skills to play the position. Jozy has more athletic ability than Torres, Villa, Klose, but he can't do squat with it.

Playing striker at the highest level, nothing ever goes as you draw it up or practice it. Things are happening in split second. You need to make the most of imperfect scoring opportunities and Jozy and the striker pool just can't do that. They're too flawed in multiple ways to ever be excellent strikers. F that, they can't even be regular goal scorers.

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I miss McBride. Hopefully Klinsmann can find a young guy, as it is from the current crop I don't think there's a consistent striker to be moulded. Hope I'm wrong, but I don't see it at this point. I think that he'll unearth some talent along the way, though.

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this is one of the biggest problems for US soccer. Most Americans don't care about soccer and therefore don't support the National Team. Many Americans who do care about soccer do not identify with the National Team. I find it hard to believe that thousands of people would travel to NY from Ecuador on a Tuesday to see a friendly. We need people who are passionate about soccer who live and work in this country to be passionate about the National Team....we need everyone to feel as though this is their team.

I also don't think it helps that specifics for friendlies seem to be announced pretty late from the perspective of a fan trying to plan for travel. If your an Ecuadorian living in the US, it's pretty easy to know that when they play here you're going to go to the game no matter where or when it is. But if you're a US fan, it's pretty easy to dismiss games because you can always go to one that's more convenient. Of course that's little excuse for fans in the city where the game is being played. From the sound of the anthem, there were a lot of fans from Baltimore at the game last night.

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I also don't think it helps that specifics for friendlies seem to be announced pretty late from the perspective of a fan trying to plan for travel. If your an Ecuadorian living in the US, it's pretty easy to know that when they play here you're going to go to the game no matter where or when it is. But if you're a US fan, it's pretty easy to dismiss games because you can always go to one that's more convenient. Of course that's little excuse for fans in the city where the game is being played. From the sound of the anthem, there were a lot of fans from Baltimore at the game last night.

The fact it was played in NY right in the Red Bull Arena and yet was still half Ecuador annoys me. NY generally shows up for soccer. Or atleast they have for women's soccer in the past.

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The fact it was played in NY right in the Red Bull Arena and yet was still half Ecuador annoys me. NY generally shows up for soccer. Or atleast they have for women's soccer in the past.

That stadium is in ****ty Harrison, NJ and is really not that convenient to access unless you enjoy standing in line at the PATH station for 2 hours after the game. And again, I don't know how much of it is up to US Soccer, but they don't announce the details of friendlies early enough. I would have loved to go to the game vs Honduras in Miami, but didn't even know about it until like a month before. Even now, I know there are FIFA dates coming up in November, and the US will be playing somewhere in Europe, but they don't know where or against who. And their website doesn't even list the FIFA dates as possible match dates.

I'm not making excuses for last night's poor attendance on the part of US fans, but it's not easy to attend friendlies at this rate even if you want to. Hopefully things will be better once qualifying starts, but if the US/Honduras game in Chicago a couple years ago is any indication, it'll likely be more nights like last night.

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That stadium is in ****ty Harrison, NJ and is really not that convenient to access unless you enjoy standing in line at the PATH station for 2 hours after the game. And again, I don't know how much of it is up to US Soccer, but they don't announce the details of friendlies early enough. I would have loved to go to the game vs Honduras in Miami, but didn't even know about it until like a month before. Even now, I know there are FIFA dates coming up in November, and the US will be playing somewhere in Europe, but they don't know where or against who. And their website doesn't even list the FIFA dates as possible match dates.

I'm not making excuses for last night's poor attendance on the part of US fans, but it's not easy to attend friendlies at this rate even if you want to. Hopefully things will be better once qualifying starts, but if the US/Honduras game in Chicago a couple years ago is any indication, it'll likely be more nights like last night.

Thats right. I forgot basically no team in NY plays in NY.

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I would like to believe that The US would attract more fans to games if games were better planned, properly promoted and more important. We have all watched supposed World Cup qualifying games the were in America but away games. Our 'home' games against Mexico are embarrassing, even in the Gold Cup. I believe US Soccer needs to reach out to the soccer loving community and create a love for US Soccer from people who are passionate about soccer. This may seem like I am just talking about South and Central American people, but the same applies to European people.....we just don't play them that much at home

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I would like to believe that The US would attract more fans to games if games were better planned, properly promoted and more important. We have all watched supposed World Cup qualifying games the were in America but away games. Our 'home' games against Mexico are embarrassing, even in the Gold Cup. I believe US Soccer needs to reach out to the soccer loving community and create a love for US Soccer from people who are passionate about soccer. This may seem like I am just talking about South and Central American people, but the same applies to European people.....we just don't play them that much at home

I might be talking out of my butt here, but it's sad how disjointed soccer support is in this country. Soccer snobbery isn't just an issue between fans and non-fans, it's an issue among soccer fans. People are too good to support US Soccer just like they are too good to support the MLS. For every passionate US Soccer fan, there are 10 who support the US along with England or Germany or France.

I think we will slowly start to win over the central and south american fans who grew up in the US, but that's obviously not an easy sell. But we also have to win over those fans who don't have any ties to other teams except that they are perrenial powerhouses in international soccer.

Oh yea, and DCU really **** the bed last night. Goals within the first minute of both halves??? I'm not really complaining though bc this team is amongst if not the youngest team in the league and they look 100 times better than last year.

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Sadly one of my friends showed signs of soccer snobbery last night. I just don't get it. I would argue that Soccer and football are the two biggest sports a fan could relate to its teams. Soccer is all about pride(Like walking into a hostile stadium with followers supporters with scarfs risen high in the air while chanting.). That's not to say sports like baseball and basketball aren't but nowadays its really more about a paycheck except for some players that are truly about the game. US Soccer is about players representing the country. Right now players are learning what it means to play for a country as Jurgen is evaluating them. The issue is while our players are learning to represent a country our fans are only starting to learn what its like to have a sport represent the country that's not the main sport. If NFL style football dominated the world the USA would bring the biggest fanbase by far but because soccer which is 3rd or 4th in the US in popularity is the world sport its hard for the country to adjust. Unfortunately that won't change until soccer takes the 2nd place behind NFL(I don't see soccer overtaking NFL atleast not for a awhile).

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I miss ESPN Saturday Morning soccer

Hopefully it is back this week

EPL will be back. Liverpool v. Manchester United.

With absolutely no disrespect intended to the guys in Buenos Aires, Barcelona/Madrid, Glasgow, Milan et all; the biggest game in World football and right up there up in the hate stakes.

Enjoy.

Hail.

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Fox has also been showing EPL games during or after the 1pm games on Sundays. If your area doesn't have a game on Fox at 1pm you see the game then, otherwise it follows the 1pm game.

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I saw this a couple weeks ago and found it interesting as a "sign -o-the-times" type thing..

2 weeks ago on a Sunday afternoon here in the uSA,, the four major networks all had sports on.. 2 of them had NFL football. NBC had soccer... ABC had rugby...

and the MLB playoffs were over on basic cable.

Just an observation i thought was interesting.

~Bang

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A couple DC United/National Team notes:

Ethan White and Perry Kitchen of DCU have both been called up to the U23 National Team training camp in Germany.

Bill Hamid was called up for the upcoming US games vs France and Slovenia. Hamid is also currently on trial with West Brom.

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A former Richmond Kicker coach is now the U 18 coach. Pretty cool. :)

Nice that White and Kitchen got called up. Something good for DCU this year.

VCU has a few great players graduating this year that I hope will sneak onto a MLS club.

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Muggles unhappy with Jurgen era after team loses 4 of last 6

Weren't things supposed to be different or is it still too early to tell? Shouldn't we be elite

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