goldenster95 Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 Lotsa Dallas fans are saying that the DBs got victimized due to a lack of a pass rush . . . perhaps . . . but they should've done a better job than that despite the soft pressure on Maddox . . . Here's a 'Skins fan's take (on another board) re the Milk Squad's DBs vs. Pitt . . . Newman, Edwards and Ross got used like a playtoys last night. They must have been distracted because Pittsburgh is so close to Canton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerpSkin Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 Didn't Smoot and Champ get pretty badly torched by the Steeler receivers in preseason last year? I'm not sure we can read too much into this even though it is a nice thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dallas is going to have problems on the corners because they have such raw guys. Ross is being worked on with his technique and will struggle until it becomes second nature. Newman is a rookie and will get toasted. Given that Dallas also has among the weakest defensive fronts at generating a pass rush in the league, there will be some big-play opportunities against them. It'll take until at least next year before their corners are actually experienced enough with their talent to be able to overcome a lack of pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridironmike Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 And that is music to the Ballcoach's ears!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 keep in mind the Steelers have one of the best passing teams in NFL, great receivers plus a talented QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins26 Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 I know the Steelers have great WR's but a lot of it looked like the Dallas CB's sucking. On one simple 10 yard curl Newman ran 10 yards down the field past Hines Ward thinking he had him covered deep, it took him a couple seconds to realize that Ward had cut back and already caught the pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 Has Dallas changed their defense? I know that Campo, who's of course now gone, was a defensive coach, so I'm figuring yes. But that's a thought too. Dallas will be a team that plays better late in the year than they do early on. That may not amount to much, but I could see them starting the way we did a couple of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 I thought Zimmer stayed on as defensive coordinator there, though I may be wrong. Tuna didn't have his security blanket to take with him this time (Belicheck). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridironmike Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 Originally posted by Equality keep in mind the Steelers have one of the best passing teams in NFL, great receivers plus a talented QB. What do we have, chopped liver? This is our man's forte'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J33Edwards Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 I believe that Parcells kept the DC from last year because their defense was the strong point of the team last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kornheiser Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 A Bad, bad combo... Dallas's CBs young & dumb...(even though promising) Pittsburgh WRs are top of the league. I'd take their WRs over any in the leagues right now. Best combo of tallent & youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 ex skin doering had 4 catches for 46 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kornheiser Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 Originally posted by gridironmike What do we have, chopped liver? This is our man's forte'. I'd say we have great potential, but none of it's been realized, as of yet. And it even remains to be seen how much of it will be realized. Here's hoping hell loads. "Potential is mankinds greatest burden" - some dead guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 Yah and let's not forget Darren Woodson's helmet to helmet hit that didn't even get flagged for a personal foul even though it was clear as day that he lead with the crown of his helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenaciousd Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 Woodson is dirty as sh!t. He almost killed Darrell Jackson last year. He leads with his head on almost every hit, but for some reason the league is very lenient on him. He was only suspended a game for that Jackson hit. The guy had a friggen seizure in the locker room after the game for God's sake. Tags ran Mark Carrier out of the league for his hits. Suspended him 4 games while he was playing with us for hitting Wesley Walls in the shoulder pads. He needs to do something, because its clear that Woodson is going to continue to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 2 years ago at the sportsbar some Cowboys fan tried to say Lavar was dirty(probably cause he ended their hero's career). And just about every Skins fan stood up ready like they were about to start swinging on him. I was shocked. Darren "Dirty" Woodson should NO DOUBT, be fined for that hit. I am not sure if the officials were just not looking or what, but you could tell by the sound that it was helmit to helmit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aREDSKIN Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 Not only will Woodson get fined, if the NFL is really interested in fairly enforcing it's mandated no helmet to helmet (crown) contact rule, but he should get suspended too. He's been fined and officially warned before for this type of infraction although I'm unsure as to how many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 actually, the hit on jackson last year was not helmet to helmet, just a really hard hit that rocked his world. though woodson got fined for it, many including people on this board thought the hit was clean. last night's hit was also not helmet to helmet but hard hit with his shoulder pads, catching the WR at perfect time for the hit and giving him a concussion. if it makes you fell better to call him dirty, then by all means do...feel better. we all know that lavar is a dirty late hitter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 No dice, Shawn. Woodson clearly led with his helmet and hit the receiver squarely in the helmet with his helmet. Intentional or not, I'll be very surprised if he doesn't get penalized by the league, somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeCarl Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 I'm not getting into the Woodson debate - the league will handle it. But while the Steelers do have some fine WRs, I saw Chris Doerring work Ross pretty well. And I sort of enjoyed watching Bettis' pancake block of big, bad Laroi Glover. And there was another bad outing for Larry Allen. This doesn't appear to be setting up a stellar year for the Cowboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTaylor42 Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 Originally posted by shawn actually, the hit on jackson last year was not helmet to helmet, just a really hard hit that rocked his world. though woodson got fined for it, many including people on this board thought the hit was clean. last night's hit was also not helmet to helmet but hard hit with his shoulder pads, catching the WR at perfect time for the hit and giving him a concussion. if it makes you fell better to call him dirty, then by all means do...feel better. we all know that lavar is a dirty late hitter... Troy Aikman said it was clearly helmet to helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 How in the world has Tommy Maddox all of a sudden become a talented QB??? :doh: Is it possible Dan Reeves has been right all along? :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long n Left Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 Never thought I'd hear the words "talented QB" associated with Tommy Maddox. This guy's an NFL castoff that owes his resurgent career to Vince McMahon. Wonder how good the Steelers would be if they had a truly talented QB to go with that stable of wide outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kornheiser Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 With that line, WRs, RBs? Any number of QBs could suceed, why do you think Maddux shut up about a new contract this off-season. Charlie Batch is right behind him & probably wants his shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 Maddox resurection has to do with him finally being able to put the mental pieces together with the physical tools he's always had. It doesnt hurt when you have WR's like Hines and Plexiglass either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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