Daily Caller: When McCain picked Palin, liberal journalists coordinated the best line of attack

[Kilmer17]

What proof do you have? I want to see and hear audio of these people saying and doing what you're claiming. Some guy writes an article with a bunch of supposed quotes and you just believe it??

Wait, you dont believe these quotes to be accurate?

[Larry]

Give us an example like Journolist.

You think that Fox News workers don't discuss politics?

You think that, if some hacker were to steal a year's worth of Fox News internal email system, that there won't be a single email in which one reporter says "Obama? He doesn't have any experience!"

That's what you've got here. A bunch or reporters in a chat room. And look! When McCain picked Palin, they said exactly the same thing everybody else said.

[SkinsHokieFan]

You think that Fox News workers don't discuss politics?

You think that, if some hacker were to steal a year's worth of Fox News internal email system, that there won't be a single email in which one reporter says "Obama? He doesn't have any experience!"

That's what you've got here. A bunch or reporters in a chat room. And look! When McCain picked Palin, they said exactly the same thing everybody else said.

I'd imagine there is a difference between journalists at one network, and potentially hundreds of journalists at several different outlets, mainstream and not so mainstream

It helps create an overall MSM narrative and drives the terms of the debate.

The question is, should so called "competing" journalists be the ones coordinating this message?

[Larry]

Dude, do some research. It's allover the net. It's an e-mail list with coordinated talking points, plans of coverage, what & how to cover certain news & events, strategies of how to paint policies, people, events etc. as they want them to be painted all from the perspective and POV of the LEFTIST list members.

And yet, in the article in this thread, there's not one piece of evidence to in any way support any of those grandiose claims you just made.

But you're right. Those completely unsupported grandiose claims are all over the net. Quoting each other's unsupported grandiose claims.

[Burgold]

You don't think that Fox and friends coordinated an attack on Obama and the Dems??

Just because it's good for the goose does not mean the gander should do it. The seeming collusion and manipulation of Fox and much of Talk Radio is shameful. Whenever reporters or opinion makers band together to scheme it is dangerous and potenially a threat. It weakens the ability for us to trust and gain insight into the world and worse, it poisons the ability of the media to act as a check against irresponsible power.

If this group on the left did what is suggested then it is shameful and should be condemned.

[MEANDWARF]

This does not surprize me. I heard a story about how Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independant called all jounalists to help deflect the story of Obama relationship with Jeramiah Wright.

He stated:

"If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they've put upon us. Instead, take one of them-Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares-and call them racists. Ask: why do they have such a deep-seated problem with a black politician who unites the country? What lurks behind those problems? This makes *them* sputter with rage, which in turn leads to overreaction and self-destruction."

article:

http://patriotpost.us/opinion/tony-blankley/2010/07/28/cry-racism-and-let-slip-the-dogs-of-politics/

Just the same old, same old liberal media bias b.s..

But with all the anti-Repulican sediment going around, I don't think this really effect the election much.

[Predicto]

Dude, do some research. It's allover the net. It's an e-mail list with coordinated talking points, plans of coverage, what & how to cover certain news & events, strategies of how to paint policies, people, events etc. as they want them to be painted all from the perspective and POV of the LEFTIST list members.

I've certainly seen lots and lots of conservatives claim this to be the case.

I haven't seen any evidence, and this story does not even remotely demonstrate such a thing.

All you have here is a chat room with some liberal journalists and columnists ****ing to each other about the same things all of us were talking about at the time.

And Tucker Carlson is trying to resusitate his career by making it look like a bigger deal than it was.

[SkinsHokieFan]

I've certainly seen lots and lots of conservatives claim this to be the case.

I haven't seen any evidence, and this story does not even remotely demonstrate such a thing.

All you have here is a chat room with some liberal journalists and columnists ****ing to each other about the same things all of us were talking about at the time.

And Tucker Carlson is trying to resusitate his career by making it look like a bigger deal than it was.

To me, this paragraph makes it a "big deal"

Its much more then people in the Tailgate talking about Palin at the time

Suzanne Nossel, chief of operations for Human Rights Watch, added a novel take: “I think it is and can be spun as a profoundly sexist pick. Women should feel umbrage at the idea that their votes can be attracted just by putting a woman, any woman, on the ticket no matter her qualifications or views.”

Mother Jones’s Stein loved the idea. “That’s excellent! If enough people – people on this list? – write that the pick is sexist, you’ll have the networks debating it for days. And that negates the SINGLE thing Palin brings to the ticket,” he wrote.

No, its not quite the "John you write this, Bob you write this, and I'll write this" but certainly if any business' in an industry were having similar discussions, they'd be brought up on collusion charges.

Imagine a "chat room" with CFOs of competing firms talking about prices and marketing.

"This product is BS. However, if it is spun in ad campaigns to be great, perhaps it will sell"

"Great idea CFO number 1. Perhaps other CFOs, on this list?, could spin this **** product to be great and we'll be able to price it higher!"

[Larry]

I'd imagine there is a difference between journalists at one network, and potentially hundreds of journalists at several different outlets, mainstream and not so mainstream

It helps create an overall MSM narrative and drives the terms of the debate.

The question is, should so called "competing" journalists be the ones coordinating this message?

News flash: There is no "coordinating this message". It's not there. (Or at least, the poster hasn't quoted anything that says so.)

The members of Tailgate said exactly the same thing. Look! Tailgate is a secret cabal of the powerful and influential, who meet in secret to control the very thoughts of America and the World!

Want to know something even more stunning? Go over to Stadium. Over there, you'll find a hundred people, every one of which is an expert in how to win in the NFL. And this secret band of behind the scenes manipulators are even now coordinating what should be done with Albert Haynesworth. Planning our 53-man roster.

I bet you that, a year from now, if you go back and look at the posts in Stadium, you'll find somebody who suggested something that's close to something that the Redskins actually did.

[Kilmer17]

…Suzanne Nossel, chief of operations for Human Rights Watch, added a novel take: “I think it is and can be spun as a profoundly sexist pick. Women should feel umbrage at the idea that their votes can be attracted just by putting a woman, any woman, on the ticket no matter her qualifications or views.”

Mother Jones’s Stein loved the idea. “That’s excellent! If enough people – people on this list? – write that the pick is sexist, you’ll have the networks debating it for days. And that negates the SINGLE thing Palin brings to the ticket,” he wrote.

Kilgore wasn’t sold: “I STRONGLY think the immediate task is to challenge the ‘maverick’ bull**** about Palin, which everybody on the tube is echoing. I’ll say it one more time: Palin is a hard-core conservative ideologue in every measurable way.”

It's obvious they were coordinating how to attack her.

[December90]

You think that Fox News workers don't discuss politics?

You think that, if some hacker were to steal a year's worth of Fox News internal email system, that there won't be a single email in which one reporter says "Obama? He doesn't have any experience!"

That's what you've got here. A bunch or reporters in a chat room. And look! When McCain picked Palin, they said exactly the same thing everybody else said.

Now when you get Fox working with MSNBC, CNN, NPR, Washington Post, NY Times, ABC News, CBS News NBC News you have a comparison.

Fox is Right Wing no doubt. But questioning the candidate Obama's past long term, close associations and questioning his utter lack of experience was something that the rest of the media was ignoring. Now there is evidence as to those "journalists" were actively pushing the Obama agenda instead of objectively reporting on the candidates.

We got the leadership we deserve for electing what we elected. The worst day in the Bush economy is still better than the best day in the Obama economy. (understood that this is subject to change, but given the policy direction I believe that it is unlikely to change)

[SkinsHokieFan]

News flash: There is no "coordinating this message". It's not there. (Or at least, the poster hasn't quoted anything that says so.)

The members of Tailgate said exactly the same thing. Look! Tailgate is a secret cabal of the powerful and influential, who meet in secret to control the very thoughts of America and the World!

Want to know something even more stunning? Go over to Stadium. Over there, you'll find a hundred people, every one of which is an expert in how to win in the NFL. And this secret band of behind the scenes manipulators are even now coordinating what should be done with Albert Haynesworth. Planning our 53-man roster.

I bet you that, a year from now, if you go back and look at the posts in Stadium, you'll find somebody who suggested something that's close to something that the Redskins actually did.

And how many people in the stadium are actually football coaches whose opinion seeps into the collective psyche of the team?

Journalists, for better or worse, still drive public opinion based on what they report and how its slanted. Its been this way since the dawn of newspapers, through television.

LBJ stating that "if I have lost Kronkite I have lost America" (paraphrasing there) is true.

So if enough journalists are talking about the "sexist pick" it helps drive the discussion amongst the less saavy non tailgate posters.

Thats the difference between OM and Oldfan talking about QB's, and Ezra Klein's little list

[Mad Mike]

Looks like the ones "coordinating their attack" were the obvious liberals like the people at Mother Jones. If that's the case this is hardly a "nuke". It's not even the least bit surprising.

Now on the other hand if there are quotes from a main stream, supposedly even handed and fair journalist that suggest that they abused their position of trust to further a hidden political agenda, we have an issue.

Don't get me wrong here. I hate the idea that "Journolist" even exists. I find the concept offensive regardless of which political party is involved (I'm sure the republicans have something similar). My point is that the specifics of the story aren't any worse than I would expect from such a website.

[Larry]

This does not surprize me. I heard a story about how Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independant called all jounalists to help deflect the story of Obama relationship with Jeramiah Wright.

He stated:

"If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they've put upon us. Instead, take one of them-Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares-and call them racists. Ask: why do they have such a deep-seated problem with a black politician who unites the country? What lurks behind those problems? This makes *them* sputter with rage, which in turn leads to overreaction and self-destruction."

article:

http://patriotpost.us/opinion/tony-blankley/2010/07/28/cry-racism-and-let-slip-the-dogs-of-politics/

Just the same old, same old liberal media bias b.s..

But with all the anti-Repulican sediment going around, I don't think this really effect the election much.

Just read a big part of your link.

There's a lot of grandiose posturing. But that paragraph you quoted does look to me like there might be something, there. It's possible that they found something.

[Burgold]

I've certainly seen lots and lots of conservatives claim this to be the case.

I haven't seen any evidence, and this story does not even remotely demonstrate such a thing.

I think what you ought to consider is that conservatives claim this to be the case because this is what they are doing and this is what they would do. The liar always thinks everyone else is a liar. The crook always think everyone else is untrustworthy.

This strategy is par for the Conservative course... you see an undeniable pattern of thought between FOX, Rush, Beck, Hannity, Savage, etc. Therefore, they assume that everyone else is doing it too.

[NoCalMike]

LOL@ anyone claiming the "Jeremiah Wright" story was deflected. Come on, that was running on 24 hour news-cycles on every network when the story first hit. Just because some networks covered it non stop for two days instead of 2 weeks, doesn't mean it was deflected, it means it was reported on and then was moved on from.

[Hunter44]

Wait, you dont believe these quotes to be accurate?

Don't know for sure but did you believe the video about Shirley Sherrod? The one the the right wing blogger edited to make her out to be a racist?

[Mickalino]

I think what you ought to consider is that conservatives claim this to be the case because this is what they are doing and this is what they would do. The liar always thinks everyone else is a liar. The crook always think everyone else is untrustworthy.

This strategy is par for the Conservative course... you see an undeniable pattern of thought between FOX, Rush, Beck, Hannity, Savage, etc. Therefore, they assume that everyone else is doing it too.

You make it sound like liberals do not lie

[boobiemiles]

Am I wrong but wasn't Sarah Palin a gift for the liberal media? ( I find it reprehensible that we live in a country that tots the ideals of liberty, but we divide people into two groups: conservative, and liberal....what is wrong with that picture?) Every time she opens her mouth I'm sure the liberal journalist sees images of Santa Clause. What's the issue here; that the media took aim at Sarah, or Barack won ebcause the media didn't like Sarah and her ability to see Russia from Alaska with her naked eye?

[Kilmer17]

Don't know for sure but did you believe the video about Shirley Sherrod? The one the the right wing blogger edited to make her out to be a racist?

Then you're a fool.

NO ONE, from the list, those quoted and those not quoted, has stepped forward and denied these are accurate.

[Kilmer17]

Am I wrong but wasn't Sarah Palin a gift for the liberal media? ( I find it reprehensible that we live in a country that tots the ideals of liberty, but we divide people into two groups: conservative, and liberal....what is wrong with that picture?) Every time she opens her mouth I'm sure the liberal journalist sees images of Santa Clause. What's the issue here; that the media took aim at Sarah, or Barack won ebcause the media didn't like Sarah and her ability to see Russia from Alaska with her naked eye?

Or maybe the fact that the liberal media took a quote from Tina Fey and attributed it ad nauseum to Sarah Palin without ever correcting it?

[r3dsk1ns4L1fe]

there was no need to coordinate anything, sarah palin did it to herself.

[Burgold]

You make it sound like liberals do not lie

Sounds like a guilty conscience. I did not say anything of the sort.

[aREDSKIN]

I think what you ought to consider is that conservatives claim this to be the case because this is what they are doing and this is what they would do. The liar always thinks everyone else is a liar. The crook always think everyone else is untrustworthy.

This strategy is par for the Conservative course... you see an undeniable pattern of thought between FOX, Rush, Beck, Hannity, Savage, etc. Therefore, they assume that everyone else is doing it too.

Nice DEFLECTION. Didn't I see your name on the list??

Although I agree with you to a degree the two are not mutually exclusive. IE both the right and the left have their "journalists".

[Predicto]

To me, this paragraph makes it a "big deal"

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So, a hothead liberal (who isn't even a journalist) goes on a jounalist message board says "this is bull! We ought to go after them this way!" and one person (from Mother Jones) agrees with her.

Ergo, the "liberal media" coordinates its attacks!!!!!

I'm sorry, but that doesn't even fly in Kilmerland.