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This really demonstrates the lousy record of the past 16 months

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/06/AR2010070605271.html?hpid=topnews

Democrats digging harder than ever for dirt on Republicans

By Philip Rucker

Washington Post Staff Writer

Wednesday, July 7, 2010; A04

The Democratic Party is moving faster and more aggressively than in previous election years to dig up unflattering details about Republican challengers. In House races from New Jersey to Ohio to California, Democratic operatives are seizing on evidence of GOP candidates' unpaid income taxes, property tax breaks and ties to financial firms that received taxpayer bailout money.

In recent weeks, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has circulated information to local reporters about Republican candidates in close races. Among the claims:

-- That Jim Renacci of Ohio once owed nearly $1.4 million in unpaid state taxes.

-- That David Harmer of California received $160,000 in bonus and severance pay from a firm that got a federal bailout.

-- That Jon Runyan of New Jersey got a legal break in property taxes for his 25-acre homestead by qualifying for a farmland assessment thanks to his four donkeys.

Renacci's campaign said the candidate did not believe he had tax liabilities for a trust fund and eventually paid all that he owed. A spokesman for Harmer said criticizing him for the money he lawfully earned is a "severe twist of the facts." Runyan's campaign said his actions were legal.

Jon Vogel, executive director of the DCCC, said Democrats are merely pointing out that some Republican recruits in competitive House races are "flawed candidates."

He added, "We have made this election a choice. . . . They're trying to run this national message in part about fiscal discipline, but they've recruited a number of candidates not credible to carry that message."

Opposition research has been a part of political campaigns for decades, but the 2010 cycle is different. In many states, Republicans have steered clear of candidates with long political track records -- eschewing state representatives and veteran city council members who have cast thousands of votes ripe for scrutiny -- in favor of political outsiders. The top GOP recruits include several former professional sports stars, as well as doctors and businessmen.

Democratic leaders are trying to frame the November midterm elections not as a national referendum on the party in power but as local choices between two candidates.

"We can win the contrast, but not the referendum," Democratic strategist Steve Murphy said. "What is critical in this election cycle is for Democratic candidates to hold Republican candidates accountable for their views."

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"We can win the contrast, but not the referendum," Democratic strategist Steve Murphy said

Democratic-strategist to English translation: "We've ****ed up so badly that we can run on our record. We must instead attempt to assassinate the character of our opponents; falsely if necessary. :ols:

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Who needs dirt? Every piece of legislation proposed has been filibustered for the first time in history. That doesn't seem like a very good record on the Republicans part either, unless getting nothing done is a record to run on.

As a liberal, I am not so happy about Obama's first couple of years, but then I look at the alternative and see guys still screaming about how we should go back to the way were doing things from 2000-2008 and I am wondering how ANYBODY, liberal or not, could possibly want to vote the next generation of those guys into office.

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"We can win the contrast, but not the referendum," Democratic strategist Steve Murphy said

Democratic-strategist to English translation: "We've ****ed up so badly that we can run on our record. We must instead attempt to assassinate the character of our opponents; falsely if necessary. :ols:

Correction,that's politics. It works both ways. You really think the GOP isn't out digging for any dirt they can find on the Dems? That's just the way politics works...and is supposed to work. Ultimately it's up to the voter to determine which is more important, the dirt or the issues. Personally I want as much info as I can get on all the candidates...preferably about the issues but sometimes the character stuff can shed light as well.

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Correction,that's politics. It works both ways. You really think the GOP isn't out digging for any dirt they can find on the Dems? That's just the way politics works...and is supposed to work. Ultimately it's up to the voter to determine which is more important, the dirt or the issues. Personally I want as much info as I can get on all the candidates...preferably about the issues but sometimes the character stuff can shed light as well.

Obama enjoyed the overwhelming support of planet earth when he was elected. I mean, I wasn't alive for the Beatles, nor much of Elvis' career, but that's what I imagined it being like. When this guy showed up, the adoring throngs were amazing to see.

Why can't the Dems run on that? The answer is simple. Because he's pissed most of it away. If the Dems had something to be proud of, having enjoyed a filibuster-proof majority in the senate for a time, and control of both houses throughout, they could run on it. Frankly, I would LOVE to see them be able to run on what they've accomplished. Success for the party in power means success for the country. And there ain't one of us, regardless of affiliation, that's opposed to that.

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It's basically saying, "Hey, I don't like the way Obama is handling the mess he was handed, so I am going to make sure the people who's 8 years worth of policy-making led to these messes, get back into office ASAP"

Many wonder if the continued blaming of the past is ever going to work in getting your side reelected. Probably not. The electorate want decisive effective decision makers not petulant blame everybody else for you own incompetence and political pandering. Obama gleefully accepted what he was handed. Anybody with a clue knew what the mess was/is and will continue to be.The circle the wagons MO at every opportunity is obviously not working with the electorate. A frank assessment of the policies Obama/Dems have implemented/contemplating etc are in order not a blame the other side for partisan political points. Even with total control the dems have just not been effective in implementing cogent policies that are effective in solving the country's messes.

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I want politicians to tell me what they plan on doing if I elect them. I don't care what the other person doesn't do or what they did in the past. If you want me to elect you, tell me what YOU are going to do.

I care because everything fits within a context. If we're running a race and you decide to run a marathon and I decide to do a forty yard dash. I'm going to win. That said, ideas are important. We're in the mess we're in. Who has the best, most workable plan to get us out of it. If it's the Repubs (and in some ways it should be. After all, if you broke it you should buy it.) great! If it's the Dems... great! If they ever learned to play together and put the country first and stop wallowing in bs even greater.

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Who needs dirt? Every piece of legislation proposed has been filibustered for the first time in history. That doesn't seem like a very good record on the Republicans part either, unless getting nothing done is a record to run on.

As a liberal, I am not so happy about Obama's first couple of years, but then I look at the alternative and see guys still screaming about how we should go back to the way were doing things from 2000-2008 and I am wondering how ANYBODY, liberal or not, could possibly want to vote the next generation of those guys into office.

Beautifully put.

I don't understand how people want the people who left us in this mess back in office. They say that Obama has done nothing, but without 60 in the Senate, nothing gets done, and that's not how it's supposed to work. The filibuster should be a nuke, not something for EVERY piece of legislation with which a party does not agree.

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Many wonder if the continued blaming of the past is ever going to work in getting your side reelected. Probably not. The electorate want decisive effective decision makers not petulant blame everybody else for you own incompetence and political pandering. Obama gleefully accepted what he was handed. Anybody with a clue knew what the mess was/is and will continue to be.The circle the wagons MO at every opportunity is obviously not working with the electorate. A frank assessment of the policies Obama/Dems have implemented/contemplating etc are in order not a blame the other side for partisan political points. Even with total control the dems have just not been effective in implementing cogent policies that are effective in solving the country's messes.

:ols::ols: :ols:

Are you kidding me? Total control my ass. Republicans have fought tooth and nail to block nearly everything that has passed and been very successful at leaving the status quo for everything that they've blocked.

You're looking at this from an extremely out-of-context viewpoint.

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I hope you understand that many are still there and have never left.

The ones blocking any attempt at changing anything? Yes, they're still there. The ones who have made changes despite incumbent Republican stonewalling? Yes, they're still there.

Bush? Cheney? The rest of the worst administration to happen to this country? Their puppets in Congressional leadership? Nah. They're gone. And some idiots want those idiots back.

Goes back to the old quesiton, "Who's more foolish: The fool or the fool who follows the fool?"

EDIT: Not that you specifically are an idiot or fool. A generalized, non-targeted statement. :)

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Beautifully put.

I don't understand how people want the people who left us in this mess back in office. They say that Obama has done nothing, but without 60 in the Senate, nothing gets done, and that's not how it's supposed to work. The filibuster should be a nuke, not something for EVERY piece of legislation with which a party does not agree.

Well, all the GOP has at the moment is a pile of filibuster nukes. They'll try to nuke themselves back into control of at least one house of Congress. They'll make major numerical gains and say it's time for "real change." That will come in the form of gridlock, which will backfire and set Obama up to blame the GOP for the stark difference between the pace of important, necessary, historical legislation before the midterm election vs. the lack of it after the election. It won't be hard to do, and he'll be right. And he'll finally have his foil, setting him up nicely for 2012. Modest economic recovery, if it happens by fall 2012, will seal the casket of whomever runs against him.

All of which underscores just how stupid this filibuster-and-bluster plan has been for the GOP. It has gotten the reactionary base riled up, but it also has set up the GOP -- and all of us -- to lose more long-term than if they had climbed aboard the Social Progress Express in the first place. Rather than share the conductor's station and fight over the throttle, they chose to be the cow astride the tracks. And so far, they've lost a lot of cows. Nuclear cows are deployed only at great long-term cost.

By the way, what credible person is saying that "Obama has done nothing?" The same credible people who says he's apologizing America away to the dadgum Mooslims and laying pavement for the great socialist takeover? LOL. That sounds like a lot of work to me.

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:ols::ols: :ols:

Are you kidding me? Total control my ass. Republicans have fought tooth and nail to block nearly everything that has passed and been very successful at leaving the status quo for everything that they've blocked.

You're looking at this from an extremely out-of-context viewpoint.

We'll see come Nov. who has a better finger on the pulse of the voters and I hope you're keeping score.

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Beautifully put.

I don't understand how people want the people who left us in this mess back in office. They say that Obama has done nothing, but without 60 in the Senate, nothing gets done, and that's not how it's supposed to work. The filibuster should be a nuke, not something for EVERY piece of legislation with which a party does not agree.

So explain to me how everything that has happened to this country is the responsibility of the the elected officials of the last 8 years? Like we operate in a vacuum during presidential terms. The mess we are in started LONG before Bush took office and you know it. Implying otherwise is intentional dishonesty. In other words, your making **** up.
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We'll see come Nov. who has a better finger on the pulse of the voters and I hope you're keeping score.

That has nothing to do with having a finger on the pulse of the voters; that has to do with politicking. Those are two very different things.

So explain to me how everything that has happened to this country is the responsibility of the the elected officials of the last 8 years? Like we operate in a vacuum during presidential terms. The mess we are in started LONG before Bush took office and you know it. Implying otherwise is intentional dishonesty. In other words, your making **** up.

Popeman:

First you say that we can blame current problems on the previous administration (which oversaw and directly caused, you know, all of our problems).

Then you say that we have to blame it on the administrations previously.

You can't have it both ways.

I don't remember Afghanistan and Iraq becoming a cluster**** prior to Bush, but if you want to explain to the class how that happened, then feel free.

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:ols::ols: :ols:

Are you kidding me? Total control my ass. Republicans have fought tooth and nail to block nearly everything that has passed and been very successful at leaving the status quo for everything that they've blocked.

You're looking at this from an extremely out-of-context viewpoint.

What is "total control" to you? And what do you call what the Democrats had prior to "Kennedy's seat" being taken by a Republican?

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That has nothing to do with having a finger on the pulse of the voters; that has to do with politicking. Those are two very different things.

Popeman:

First you say that we can blame current problems on the previous administration (which oversaw and directly caused, you know, all of our problems).

Then you say that we have to blame it on the administrations previously.

You can't have it both ways.

I don't remember Afghanistan and Iraq becoming a cluster**** prior to Bush, but if you want to explain to the class how that happened, then feel free.

Al Qaida became a problem long before Bush. He "inherited that mess" from Clinton.

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First you say that we can blame current problems on the previous administration (which oversaw and directly caused, you know, all of our problems).

Nope.

And I hated the Bush administration.

But, still... nope.

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