aREDSKIN Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Originally posted by Kilmer17 Im getting myself prepared for what always happens to us in the regular season. You can count on at least one blown call by an official hurt us in a big way. I thought the league was instructing officials to not blow their whistles as fast? Kind of like the high strike in baseball I guess. It's just amazing that the refs can continue to make the incorrect calls. Truly pathetic IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsknbill Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 EL and Blazer, Is Feeley seriously the third Qb behind Koy? :?: That amazes me! :thud: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleSteve Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Originally posted by rdsknbill EL and Blazer, Is Feeley seriously the third Qb behind Koy? :?: That amazes me! :thud: Yes, at the moment he is. He did look sharp. Where are the Cowboys fans who were criticizing me for saying that Feeley is a much better QB than Carter or Hutchinson? I stand by the statement. He even made some of the scrubs look pretty good. To some others: No way was I saying that Rod Gardner was a bust. It's generally considered that Freddie Mitchell is the bust. As EL pointed out, I was only stating that they were drafted in the same first round. There's no question about who has been more productive - it's not even close. Reid's last three first round draft choices are all going to be heavily scrutinized this year. 1. Mitchell needs to prove himself as a productive receiver in Reid's WCO. He took a first step last night. 2. Lito Sheppard needs to step up as the nickel back and possibly punt returner. He returned a lot of punts in college and definitely has the moves, as displayed last night. So long as the blocking remains solid, he can probably get the job done. Definitely has more speed than Brian Mitchell. The question is fumbling. Defensively, he needs to meld with the defense and spell Taylor and Vincent at times. 3. McDougle needs to step in to the DE rotation quickly. He had a sack last night against the second-stringers. If these guys step up (and it's a big IF) and the injury bug doesn't bite too hard, the Eagles will not take a step back this year. I don't mean they'll take the necessary step forward, but the window won't be closed for them. If they are hot and healthy in December, they will have as good a chance as any team, and a better chance than most. How's that for taking an entire paragraph to say absolutely nothing? Wilbon would be proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted August 12, 2003 Author Share Posted August 12, 2003 Why don't they get rid of the rule stating that a play cannot be reviewed if the runner is ruled down by contact. That is when most of the calls are made in error. If you can't fix them, what is the point of having replay? And I know that if the whistle blows, everyone stops but there has to be something they can do to fix this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Dollar Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Couldn't watch the game (no cable or satilite) but read up on it. Congrats to a smooth showing by the Eagle Starters Blazer21. You should see the Saints boards today The usual "it's only pre-season" "we were injured" sorta talk. I guess all that "speed" that Saint fans were touting kind of got stifled pretty good. I know the Saints were missing some starters but come on, from the stats and writeups it looks like they got worse from last years collapse. And all I've been hearing from Saint fans up to this game was how much better thier defense is going to be with all the speed and talent they added Lewis is thier whole team. If you look at last year the Saints were I think, No.1 in scoring in the NFC but the yardage from the LOS was average at best. This shows that the Saints scored with short fields from thier special teams (we know thier defense didn't create those short fields). Give them an 80 yard field and they struggle. Shoot in the opener last year the Bucs lost a 5 possesion OT game (thanks Tupa) in Grudens debut and then the Saints won the matchup at thier place by 3 points and they still tout it as thier superbowl and they "dominated" us Doesn't take much to excite them or depress them. Glad to see the Eagles send them in an excuse riddled tizzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleSteve Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Thanks, 1$. Since they beat the Bucs twice last year (How?) I can see that they'd sort of hold that over you. But then again, they have had two consecutive December swoons - and your team has the trophy! Just keep reminding them Can't wait until September 8th. Let's hope both of our teams come in with no injuries with all cylinders firing. It should be fun. Also, how'd the Bucs get stuck with their first game on the road after winning the Super Bowl? They need to get some insiders at the scheduling department. IMO, the champs should always open at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Dollar Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Originally posted by Blazers21 Also, how'd the Bucs get stuck with their first game on the road after winning the Super Bowl? They need to get some insiders at the scheduling department. IMO, the champs should always open at home. Well I'm not complaining. All that means is there will be one more home game in the good months down here (Nov & Dec). It's too friggin hot in September even at 9pm. We only have one Sept home game (4pm Sept 14 against the Panthers) I remember the days of old when we used to have two 1pm games in Septemebr. No Thanks. I guess they did it for the Fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsknbill Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Originally posted by Blazers21 Yes, at the moment he is. He did look sharp. Where are the Cowboys fans who were criticizing me for saying that Feeley is a much better QB than Carter or Hutchinson? I stand by the statement. He even made some of the scrubs look pretty good. Well, I have to agree with you here. Feeley is a better QB than anything that Parcells is going to put on the field. The ESPN crew made a good point Feeley was the starter until he got hurt, and Harrington came onto the scene. The other thing that just floored me was when they said that Andy Reid wasn't contacted by ANY team regarding Feeley. :shoothead You would think that somebody would've stepped up to get him. He showed that if Mcnabb goes down, he can step right in. Is he being labeled a "system QB"?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Originally posted by Tom [Giants fan] Why don't they get rid of the rule stating that a play cannot be reviewed if the runner is ruled down by contact. That is when most of the calls are made in error. If you can't fix them, what is the point of having replay? And I know that if the whistle blows, everyone stops but there has to be something they can do to fix this. Tom- think through what you're saying. What's the alternative. The refs have to signal what in their judgement is the end fo a play by whistling don't they? If they eliminated that rule, then what would be the point of referees? They'd also have a lot more post-play contact. The rule recognizes that when the whistle blows, the players let up and stop pursuing. There can be no other way to do this. Believe me that rule frustrates me as a fan to no end when the refs wrongly/prematurely blow the whistle, but there's no alternative and it protects the players, and it's the human factor at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsanity56 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 your right tom,this is when most calls are made in error.. why not keep the rule as is but have it reviewable??you still have 2 challenges a 1/2 so it shouldn't slow the gm anymore. on the review u would give "forward progress" if they stopped running or TD if they went all the way etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wicked Wop Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Definately a bad call. Unfortunately Refs are pretty quick whistle blowers (yeah that just sounds bad). But these types of plays are usually called dead, usually because of a poor view, or things happening to quickly..... its unforunate that they happen but it is the nature of the game I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleSteve Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Originally posted by rdogblue Definately a bad call. Unfortunately Refs are pretty quick whistle blowers (yeah that just sounds bad). But these types of plays are usually called dead, usually because of a poor view, or things happening to quickly..... its unforunate that they happen but it is the nature of the game I guess. It's also impossible to reverse. When you watch the play, it's obvious a whistle blew, because all the Eagles stopped. Not just one or two, but all of them. If the whistle hadn't blown, Lewis was not going to score anyway, as two other Eagles were in position to tackle him. In fact, one of them let him go when he heard the whistle. Still, it was a bad call, but I don't think the call prevented a TD, Lewis might have gotten a few more yards before being brought down. The other bad call was on McMullen in the endzone. If you watch the replay, he caught the ball, put it away, and both feet touched the turf. At that moment, the play is over. The ball is in the endzone, in the possession of the receiver who has both feet in bounds. It was immediately after this that the defender knocked the ball out. There is no need to make a "football move" in the endzone as there is on the field of play for possession to be confirmed. I guess it wasn't a bad call by the official, as it happened quickly, but Reid should have asked for a review. In any event, the calls evened out, as NO scored a FG on their possession, as did the Eagles. Of course, in the most brilliant move - the Eagles cut Lewis a few years ago. :doh: Sort of like when they cut Jimmy Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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