Tarhog Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 I don't care but thought some here might be interested.... http://msnbc.com/news/950648.asp?0cv=CB10 New QB, but Bengals look same Palmer has 2 interceptions returned for TDs by Jets EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J., Aug. 10 — Marvin Lewis and Carson Palmer made forgettable NFL debuts Sunday. The new head coach and Heisman Trophy winner were no help to the Cincinnati Bengals in their preseason opener. They bumbled in a 28-13 loss to the New York Jets played through a steady rain. PALMER HAD TWO INTERCEPTIONS returned for touchdowns, and the Bungles had their share of miscues - a botched field goal and extra point attempt, two personal foul penalties and four total turnovers. When asked whether there was one thing he needed to improve upon, Palmer had a simple answer: “Everything.” Lewis became the third active black coach in the NFL when he took over for Dick LeBeau in January, hoping to turn around a franchise that has not had a winning season since 1990. They have a long way to go. “We knew there would be mistakes, and now I’m excited about watching the video tape and improving on these mistakes,” Lewis said. Palmer, who won the Heisman as a senior at Southern California last season, entered the game at the start of the second half and led the Bengals to their two scoring drives. But he also had two passes intercepted and returned for scores. Trailing 14-7 and driving with two minutes remaining, Palmer was intercepted by Wes Bautovich, who went 78 yards for a touchdown to make it 21-7 with 1:44 remaining. On the next possession, Troy Grant intercepted Palmer and went 36 yards for a touchdown to increase the Jets’ lead. Palmer threw a 10-yard touchdown pass to Chesley Borders with 8 seconds remaining to cap the scoring. He finished 12-of-22 for 140 yards in his NFL debut. “He’s a young guy, you can’t expect too much from him right now,” Jets safety Sam Garnes said. “He’s going to be good, but he’s still learning. It’s still tough. No matter how good you are, you still have to learn.” Palmer is content learning behind Jon Kitna, who went 4-of-6 for 24 yards in one quarter with a fumbled snap that led to the Jets’ first score. “Jon is the best quarterback on this team, and I’m only up here cause it goes with being the No. 1 pick and Heisman Trophy winner,” Palmer said. The Jets (1-1) were sloppy, too, but took advantage of Kitna’s miscue. On the third play of the game Kitna fumbled the snap and defensive tackle Jason Ferguson recovered. “I saw the ball come out and I got on it,” Ferguson said. “We want the offense on the field as much as possible, either by creating turnovers or forcing three-and-outs.” The Jets took over at the Bengals 39, and Chad Pennington completed a 21-yard pass down the middle to Santana Moss to set up a 1-yard touchdown run by LaMont Jordan. They also scored on their first drive last week in their preseason opener against Tampa Bay. The Jets set their goal before every game to score on their first possession. “I was very happy with that play because that was the first time I’ve been able to hit him,” Pennington said. “That’s exciting for me. I was glad we had a chance to pump one in there to him.” Kitna could not generate much more offense, and Corey Dillon only had one carry for 5 yards before leaving in the second series. Jets running back Curtis Martin was in on three plays - all passing attempts - but coach Herman Edwards promised Martin will get some carries next week. Pennington went 3-of-8 for 34 yards before giving way to Vinny Testaverde in the second quarter. Testaverde lasted one series, which ended when Kevin Hardy intercepted his pass. Shane Matthews came in for Kitna and went 8-of-11 for 51 yards. He set the Bengals up for a 37-yard field goal attempt in the second quarter, but holder Nick Harris botched the snap and ended up throwing an incomplete pass. Palmer did all he could with third-teamers around him. His first pass was nearly intercepted by Andrew Davison, and his next drive ended when Ray Jackson fumbled and Jets linebacker Khary Campbell recovered. The Jets added to their lead at the start of the fourth quarter, when Chad Brinker scored on a 5-yard touchdown run to make it 14-0. Then Palmer guided the Bengals on a 10-play, 80-yard drive that included a nifty 36-yard completion to Danny Farmer, setting up a 7-yard touchdown run by Jackson to make it 14-7. After the game, Edwards told his good friend Lewis to keep his head up. “I told him to continue to believe in the process of how you want to develop your football team and hang in there,” Edwards said. “I wished him a lot of luck. I think he’s going to do good things there.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Looks like Lewis had the same type of day the Cowboys,Jets, mmmredmphcoughskins, and others did the first time out. Course, it is the Bungals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Rookie Quarterback + Rookie Coach + Bungles = embarrassing loss. But at least they scored 13 points. We have a second year coach, and a second year QB with tons of quality players, what's our excuse again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins26 Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Anyone know how Kelly Washington did?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishomelette Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Originally posted by Tarhog PALMER HAD TWO INTERCEPTIONS returned for touchdowns, and the Bungles had their share of miscues - a botched field goal and extra point attempt, two personal foul penalties and four total turnovers. When asked whether there was one thing he needed to improve upon, Palmer had a simple answer:“Everything.” C'mon...That is such an old joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. D Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 go marvin.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Its only preseason too early to call them a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Lewis is going to make the Bengals better. There is no question in my mind about that. He will get this team respectable, to 8-8 or 9-7 before all is said and done, although maybe not this season. Where Lewis will face a challenge is in getting over the 'respectable' hump to 'contender'. Mike Brown is unlikely to spend the money to keep all the players that Lewis may develop over the next 2-3 years. This team could top out at 9-7 and it may not be Lewis' fault. At the same time he chose this opportunity. His hope has to be that if the team plateaus that other teams will see what he was able to do with a difficult front office, and he will be offered the chance to coach a second team that has deeper pockets and a better FO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerpSkin Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Actually, it sounds like they did alright. Kitna was 4-6 and it was only because of a fumbled snap (a forgivable miscue in the first preseason game) that the Jets were able to score. Then Shane sets them up for a field goal. And there rookie QB has a couple scoring drives and a couple INTs which again provided the Jets scoring as opposed to lapses on defense. I'd feel positive about our progress if we looked like that. Unfortunately Carolina scored on us regardless of whether we had offensive miscues or not, and Rob Johnson was the only QB to bring us anywhere close to a score of some sort. Maybe next week against the Pats we can look as good as Lewis' Bengals did yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Interesting thread, but the title makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthawk Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2003/0810/1593597.html Sunday, August 10 Bengals don't know when Washington will return -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Associated Press CINCINNATI -- Cincinnati Bengals rookie wide receiver Kelley Washington was excused from the team's preseason opener Sunday to have a previous neck injury evaluated. Washington was in Dallas seeing a doctor, and the Bengals don't know when he'll return, team spokesman Jack Brennan said. The 6-foot-3, 218-pound Washington, a third-round draft pick from Tennessee, had surgery last November to fuse two vertebrae in his neck because of a concussion he got while playing last season. "He chose to obtain a second medical opinion on the condition of his neck for final clearance to play,'' Brennan said. Washington practiced with the team for the first time last Monday, a day after signing a three-year, $1.45 million contract to end a weeklong holdout. He is expected to compete with Peter Warrick for a starting spot. The Bengals lost to the New York Jets 28-13 on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptown Skins Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 IMHO, Byron Leftwich was the best QB in April's draft. I wish he hurry up and sign on the dotted line down there in Jax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsLegacy44 Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Good for Marvin. I hope he does well with this team. They dont really have the ability to make an instant impact in the league, but I see them developing into a solid team in the upcoming years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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