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Jason Campbell traded to the Bills? Marshall to the Skins? pure speculation.


Deadeye Dunkan

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Candle for a 2nd rounder would be AWESOME!

The deal of Candle and Landry for Marshall and a lesser safety, give or take a pick, not so much. Landry has potential.

Landry is a bum. I'd keep Campbell over Landry and certainly would value Campbell much higher. An 80+ rating QB with experience is worth a hell of a lot more than a safety with the coverage skills of Roy Williams that takes bad angles, doesn't wrap up, and draws personal fouls constantly.

I'd trade Landry for a 3rd or 4th straight up. He's a bust.

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Candle for a 2nd rounder would be AWESOME!

The deal of Candle and Landry for Marshall and a lesser safety, give or take a pick, not so much. Landry has potential.

It'd be Moss & Landry for Marshall. Though word is Landry doesn't want to go to Denver. There are two other teams he'd rather go to.

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It'd be Moss & Landry for Marshall. Though word is Landry doesn't want to go to Denver. There are two other teams he'd rather go to.

So thier is legs to this rumor then? I heard that Shannahan was not intrested in not bringing Marshall into the fold and that he was close to cutting him in Shannahan's last year with Denver.

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The Jason lovers are starting to squirm.

Interesting, trade away a known average QB for the potential to pick up a better QB. A QB that could have a better year under a better Oline vs a QB that could be better or could be worse.

Reference bringing in Marshall. Dumping Moss and Landry is a good move assuming Marshall can play under Shanny.

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Seem like smart trades to me. Rather than play Campbell for a year and letting him hit the open market, we tender him and trade him to get a draft pick that might actually be a part of the future Redskins. At the same time we pick up a descent safety, allowing us to get rid of LL, and acquire Brandon Marshall? As much as I think Marshall is a head case, the thought of Marshall and Kelly split out wide with Thomas in the slot and Cooley or Davis on the line, makes me cream in my pants.

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Far from it. Most of the people who support Jason are rational, level-headed fans who can see the benefit in trading Jason and getting value in return.

Bwhahahahaha ok :doh:

I really hope this has legs and happens very soon. Anything we can get for Jason now will be better then next year.

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Check out this gem from page #2 of that thread:

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This is what the radio experts are saying so just keep that in mind when you read this breakdown

Bills would get Jason Campbell and something else if they cannot work out a contract longer than the 1 yr, if they can get him to sign then the Bills would send Whitner and a pick.

In return

Redskins would trade Laron Landry and that Pick to the PATS for Randy Moss

Then

The Redskins would send Moss and Pick to Denver for Brandon Marshall and a player

Leading to the Redskins

Drafting Sam Bradford or Clausen and getting a VET QB like Garcia etc ….

So where is everyone getting that we get a second round pick from, or any additional draft picks at all, for that matter?

In looking at the above, it translates to:

Bills get Jason Campbell.

Patriots get Laron Landry and the draft pick we got Buffalo.

Denver gets Randy Moss and one of our draft picks.

Redskins get Donte Whitner and Brandon Marshall.

Summary

We get an average safety and a headcase of a WR and lose a draft pick and give up a decent QB and an extremely talent, but undisciplined safety that we have been playing out of position. So we go into the season with Todd Collins, Colt Brennan, and most likely the QB we drafted?

So how did the Skins get better or benefit in this trade?

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So where is everyone getting that we get a second round pick from, or any additional draft picks at all, for that matter?

In looking at the above, it translates to:

Bills get Jason Campbell.

Patriots get Laron Landry and the draft pick we got Buffalo.

Denver gets Randy Moss and one of our draft picks.

Redskins get Donte Whitner and Brandon Marshall.

Summary

We get an average safety and a headcase of a WR and lose a draft pick and give up a decent QB and an extremely talent, but undisciplined safety that we have been playing out of position. So we go into the season with Todd Collins, Colt Brennan, and most likely the QB we drafted?

So how did the Skins get better or benefit in this trade?

Jason not being behind center is an instant improvement and you have the franchise QB on your roster.

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If we can somehow move jc to Buffalo and the rams dont take a qb we would be able to trade back (even if we don't get good value) and still be able to grab either clausen or Bradford.

On a side note I think Landry makes a lot of sense in Denver. Dawkins would be an awesome mentor for Landry, similar to Sean.

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Interesting, trade away a known average QB for the potential to pick up a better QB. A QB that could have a better year under a better Oline vs a QB that could be better or could be worse.

"Average" gets you nowhere but the basement in the NFCEast year after year after year.

After 5 years its clear Campbell will never give more than he has.

Thats not good for the few fans on this site (including moi) who want the chance to become competitive and are willing to gamble on another QB.

PS: Its not the OLine stupid.

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Far from it. Most of the people who support Jason are rational, level-headed fans who can see the benefit in trading Jason and getting value in return.

Anyone who still supports Jason after his dismal inept career in DC is certifiable ... talk about "value" in return is ludicrous ... I would pay Buffalo to take Campbell off the Skins' hands.

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I would much prefer a scenario where we trade Campbell to the Rams, and in return we get Bulger and a 2nd or something.

I agree. Bulger and 2nd would be fantastic if the FO does not think that Colt is ready to be the backup. If Colt is ready then we have less of a need for Bulger. He is not likely to want to come here as the number 3 unless he doesn't have other offers. He may opt to retire.

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Jason not being behind center is an instant improvement and you have the franchise QB on your roster.

I don't think that you actually addressed my question. Not picking an arguement, but are you indicating getting rid of Jason alone and drafting a QB makes this team that much better or were you only commenting on replacing Campbell?

Either way, it didn't address my question. How does this trade make us better?

I am going to go out on limb here and say that it doesn't.

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So where is everyone getting that we get a second round pick from, or any additional draft picks at all, for that matter?

In looking at the above, it translates to:

Bills get Jason Campbell.

Patriots get Laron Landry and the draft pick we got Buffalo.

Denver gets Randy Moss and one of our draft picks.

Redskins get Donte Whitner and Brandon Marshall.

Summary

We get an average safety and a headcase of a WR and lose a draft pick and give up a decent QB and an extremely talent, but undisciplined safety that we have been playing out of position. So we go into the season with Todd Collins, Colt Brennan, and most likely the QB we drafted?

So how did the Skins get better or benefit in this trade?

This is pretty much what I was thinking. That there trade just don't sound right.

Keep Campbell (and Landry) trade down for extra pick(s), draft CJ Spiller, and use the rest of the picks on O-Line and LB. To me, this would be a much better scenario.

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Trading Landry would be a huge mistake IMO. Horton and Doughty are nowhere near Laron's talent level, he just needs a coach to straighten him out. This move would make me question Shanny, and it's too early for that kinda **** to be happening

Beside's i never liked Whitner anyways

Who cares about talent level if that talent is turning into good play on the field?

Vernon Golston is talented. It means nothing. Production of the field is what matter.

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