the12thSkin Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 To all those who want to draft a QB in the first. Here is a good look at what Clausen will look like next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST is my boy Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Pretty sure Dockery will be the only guy left on the line.......so who knows how bad it will suck next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBush Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 reminds me of Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Drafting QB in the first round would be a long term consideration, IMO. Not that I think they should go that way myself. I would like to trade down and get both lineman and fill another need, like another lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IS guhn RAIN Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 reminds me of Jason yea except for that was clausen in his freshman year. He moves around so much better now. Not saying the guy will be great, but you cant take a video of his freshman year and say that he reminds you of a 28 year old. Any freshman QB in college that starts is gonna suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 could someone fill me in, since we have so many fortune tellers here: who is on the 2010 washington redskins oline? cause from what i see out of a lot of posters is that theyve deluded themselves into thinking that the unit from 09 is returning in full, which is embarrassing to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 yea except for that was clausen in his freshman year. He moves around so much better now. Not saying the guy will be great, but you cant take a video of his freshman year and say that he reminds you of a 28 year old. Any freshman QB in college that starts is gonna suck. well, at least he'd know what to expect. experience is a great teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBush Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 yea except for that was clausen in his freshman year. He moves around so much better now. Not saying the guy will be great, but you cant take a video of his freshman year and say that he reminds you of a 28 year old. Any freshman QB in college that starts is gonna suck. I know it was his freshman year but what the OP is saying is that Clausen may look the same adjusting to the speed of the NFL behind our *current line, thus my comment. * added after seeing BLCs post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IS guhn RAIN Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 well, at least he'd know what to expect. experience is a great teacher. yea if anything i would say that helps clausen alot. Hes not spread offense QB that hasnt had any pressure on him in 4 years at college. He's had terrible olines and had to learn how to work with them and improve his skills so he wouldnt get killed back there. I dont really have a preference on either clausen or bradford. So whichever one shanny and bruce pick, or if they decide they want oline early, is fine with me. Im trying hard not to get involved with making the right decisions because for the first time in a while i trust our FO. whatever they want is fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAC386 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I don't like Clausen that much and I don't see anything that impressive when I see him play. But his teammates seemed to really like him, and he does seem like he is fully committed to being a good football player. I don't get that impression from Bradford sometimes. He doesn't seem to live for football, he seems almost indifferent to me sometimes. Obviously that can change when I see him interviewed more as the draft approaches. Clausen worries me because he doesn't seem very physically gifted. Bradford worries me because he doesn't seem to have the fire and passion that Clausen has for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Too bad there is no video of Okung in his third career college game. Most likely because he didn't play in his third college game. God, he must suck then. Couldn't even crack the starting line up right outta HS. /sarcasm Really, dig up any video you can find that furthers the any-pick-but-OL-is-insanity agenda. It's really productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGutta Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 reminds me of Jason LOL! :hysterical: It looked just like him!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 ...........cause from what i see out of a lot of posters is that theyve deluded themselves into thinking that the unit from 09 is returning in full, which is embarrassing to say the least. Thank you, close thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleVA Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 To all those who want to draft a QB in the first. Here is a good look at what Clausen will look like next year Or this.. edit: Haha, his release.. damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Thank you, close thread... its embarrassing man. the idea that mike shanahan is gonna put whatever QB he goes with behind Levi Jones, Derrick Dockery, Casey Rabach, Mike Williams, and Stephon Heyer to start the 2010 is beyond ridiculous. regardless of who we draft, this oline will be at least 80% different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 could someone fill me in, since we have so many fortune tellers here:who is on the 2010 washington redskins oline? cause from what i see out of a lot of posters is that theyve deluded themselves into thinking that the unit from 09 is returning in full, which is embarrassing to say the least. It's one of the most lame and tired arguments on this board: "Bradford/Clausen/any rookie QB is going to suck behind our offensive line." Shanahan's not bringing in the same 2009 2nd and 3rd string scrubs to start in 2010. And drafting a QB with our top pick doesn't = disregarding the OL in the offseason or even the draft. Last year was a freak year of injuries and Shanahan has a history of building good offensive lines and doing well with drafting them in mid-to-later rounds. It's almost like some posters here assume that if we take a QB with our top pick then we're automatically not drafting any offensive linemen with any other pick in the draft or pursuing any offensive linemen in free agency or via trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 It's almost like some posters here assume that if we take a QB with our top pick then we're automatically not drafting any offensive linemen with any other pick in the draft or pursuing any offensive linemen in free agency or via trades. Imperium said it the best: "drafting a QB does not equal not drafting OL" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 At least Clausen is used to pressure. Here's what Bradford would look like in the same scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 At least Clausen is used to pressure. Here's what Bradford would look like in the same scenario. If any QB got slammed on his shoulder the way Bradford did last year, they'd look like that. Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, even if Superman were a QB his shoulder would've been busted after landing on it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahons21 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 To all those who want to draft a QB in the first. Here is a good look at what Clausen will look like next year -Our o-line was NEVER dominated that badly, NEVER. Secondly, why does drafting a QB in the first mean we can't address the o-line? Especially when you look at Shanny's record of drafting linemen in the later rounds and plugging them into his zone blocking scheme. I will never understand this argument, and it's made on ES all too frequently. YOU CAN ADDRESS MORE THAN ONE POSITION OR AREA OF THE TEAM IN A SINGLE OFF-SEASON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Edds Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 At least Clausen is used to pressure. Here's what Bradford would look like in the same scenario. so is JC ... where does that leave us? to draft a QB b/c he has experience playing with lesser talent or behind a crappy college OL, does not automatically mean they are going to excel at the next level. Neither does playing behind a great college OL mean that coming to the NFL and playing behind a crappy NFL OL, mean that player is going to suck worse. The mentality that b/c our OL sucks now, means we should draft a college player with experience playing behind a crappy OL in college makes absolute no sense to me. We should be drafting for the future, for the long term. And we should "not" base the decision to draft/not draft certain players because of any current roster issues we have now. The goal is to draft the best possible QB AND OL'man and have them all working together. I'm over the ridiculous "excuses" for why one college player will be better in the NFL than another. Look at the tape, look at their records in college and look at their skills. I find it comical that because Bradford suffered a shoulder injury means he can't compete at a high level, yet Clausen gets the "pro-style-offense-under-center" almighty tag, yet when someone critiques his mechanics the whole "turf-toe" excuse gets to be thrown out there as a cover up. They are both good players ... and excuses on both sides of the fence to belittle the other are weak at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGREENHULK Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 There are QB's in the 2nd and 4th Rounds that could that for us. Looks like ND could have used a better Oline too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGREENHULK Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 At least Clausen is used to pressure. Here's what Bradford would look like in the same scenario. Wow I find myself agreeing with you....yup I just saw a pig fly outside my window. I still think OLINE is the way to go but at least Jimmy has taken direct snaps. I'm telling you guys Bradford scares the heck out me. He has all the talent but with his injuries (plural) he is a huge risk at 4. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 so is JC ... where does that leave us? to draft a QB b/c he has experience playing with lesser talent or behind a crappy college OL, does not automatically mean they are going to excel at the next level. Neither does playing behind a great college OL mean that coming to the NFL and playing behind a crappy NFL OL, mean that player is going to suck worse. The mentality that b/c our OL sucks now, means we should draft a college player with experience playing behind a crappy OL in college makes absolute no sense to me. We should be drafting for the future, for the long term. And we should "not" base the decision to draft/not draft certain players because of any current roster issues we have now. The goal is to draft the best possible QB AND OL'man and have them all working together. I'm over the ridiculous "excuses" for why one college player will be better in the NFL than another. Look at the tape, look at their records in college and look at their skills. I find it comical that because Bradford suffered a shoulder injury means he can't compete at a high level, yet Clausen gets the "pro-style-offense-under-center" almighty tag, yet when someone critiques his mechanics the whole "turf-toe" excuse gets to be thrown out there as a cover up. They are both good players ... and excuses on both sides of the fence to belittle the other are weak at best. I've never said I wanted Clausen because he's used to pressure. However, I don't want Bradford because he's not, and has questionable toughness. The biggest issue I have with Bradford is the fact that he performed mostly from the gun, and spread qbs have issues when transitioning to the NFL, save a few exceptions. We already know how one of the greatest NCAA spread-qbs is doing in the NFL. If any QB got slammed on his shoulder the way Bradford did last year, they'd look like that. Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, even if Superman were a QB his shoulder would've been busted after landing on it like that. Even so, his toughness is definitely one of the question marks against him, as is how he'll react to the pressure he'll be facing. From everything I've read, he had great protection at OU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Even so, his toughness is definitely one of the question marks against him, as is how he'll react to the pressure he'll be facing. From everything I've read, he had great protection at OU. I agree with that. His toughness is a question and he did have excellent protection at OU, but that hit he took in the BYU game was a shoulder-buster for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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