AKM311 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/21/teams-are-looking-for-ways-to-beat-the-system/ Teams are looking for ways to beat the system Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2010 12:19 PM ET With no players receiving the franchise tag or transition tag and only a couple of guys being slapped with restricted free agency tenders, a league source tells us that the current calm comes from an effort by teams to find a way to get a step ahead of the system in the uncapped year. Though it's unknown whether anything will be discovered, teams are waiting to see whether any other teams come up with some strategy for tilting the playing field in favor of the franchises. Much of the focus is on the Redskins, given new G.M. Bruce Allen's reputation for coming up with creative ways to make the most of the free agency and cap rules. (Though the Redskins have no one who is expected to receive the franchise tag, they have several players who'll be eligible for restricted free agency, including quarterback Jason Campbell and cornerback Carlos Rogers.) Again, it's unknown whether the efforts will be successful. But that's the big reason for the lack of activity to date. If true, my how things have changed, lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Again, it's unknown whether the efforts will be successful. But that's the big reason for the lack of activity to date. --------------------------- Another PFT gem. All grandiose speculation(league source) with no substance(quote with a name). How nice to have a job where you make stuff up and don't support any of it. Another Putz prize by Florio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 It'll be tough for us, trying to find a loophole this time. The cap will return at some point, and there would be hell to pay when it does, if we went out and got someone like Peppers or Wilfork. I think the main reason for the hush is that most teams will likely focus on signing their own guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 It's been waaaaaayyyyyy to quiet. Allen and Shanny are working behind the curtain, like the great "Wizard of Oz". Can't wait for Toto to roll it back and see what our trades, FA's acquisitions and draft will bring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaRonDontLikeUgly Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 We are beginning a new era where we don't just throw our cards down on the table face-up anymore. Other teams are going to have to get used to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar" - Sigmund Freud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sellersfan Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 The rest of the league has ALWAYS waited to see what the Skins would do. Danny would always make a huge FA signing which screws everyone else trying to control salaries. Everyone is more nervous this year given the labour situation. All it takes is one owner (Danny) to screw it up for everyone else in an uncapped year. I'm am sure that Danny got cornered at the owners meeting, and 31 owners threatened to give him a wedgie if he doesnt follow their lead going into this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 No on cares what we will do except the media. The winners (Colts, Pats, Saints) do what they do... they do what works for them. We need to do what works for us. I don't think the Rams are sitting on pins and needles to see what we will do... The media wants a story. We have a new coach and GM and the writers want material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I'm am sure that Danny got cornered at the owners meeting, and 31 owners threatened to give him a wedgie if he doesnt follow their lead going into this season. :doh: because owners like Jerry Jones don't so the same thing...like spending money to improve a team be careful your haterade is showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 PFT Headline- We have no news right now. So, we're just going to type some **** and press enter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Many teams will end up doing nothing ... and thats good for the Skins because it will free alot of players from contracts and they will all be looking for a job. The party is over for the players. They are making a huge mistake by not negotiating a new CBA. If the Skins do not tender Campbell or Rogers ... so what? ... they walk and their places are taken by better players "freed up" by other teams and at lower salaries. Its gonna be like the old Plan "B" more than people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 PFT Headline-We have no news right now. So, we're just going to type some **** and press enter. And, Mike doesn't know what the skins are going to do and that bothers him. He no longer can just type the same old crap he puts out every other off season. Nice to finally have football people running the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryman of the North Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 1- we were good at capology long before allen and shanny, sometimes I wonder of these guys even follow football yet they get paid to write this garbage. 2-some of the other big spenders are hampered by the cba, something about limiting the number of ufa and rfa they can sign depending on their finish. 3-I have a strong feeling that if and when we find some loopholes there will be a surge of free agency signings , most likely AFTER teams can no longer tag their players. we just dont wnat to tip our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icbmayday Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Can't wait to see what direction Mr. Allen takes myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looking For Number Four Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 It'll be tough for us, trying to find a loophole this time. The cap will return at some point, and there would be hell to pay when it does, if we went out and got someone like Peppers or Wilfork. I think the main reason for the hush is that most teams will likely focus on signing their own guys. It is strange to me that we cannot restructure contracts to pay them the majority (at least in the eyes of the cap) this season. It makes no sense to me why we did not make a substantial portion of Hayneswroth's contract hit this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looking For Number Four Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 1- we were good at capology long before allen and shanny, sometimes I wonder of these guys even follow football yet they get paid to write this garbage.2-some of the other big spenders are hampered by the cba, something about limiting the number of ufa and rfa they can sign depending on their finish. 3-I have a strong feeling that if and when we find some loopholes there will be a surge of free agency signings , most likely AFTER teams can no longer tag their players. we just dont wnat to tip our hands. Teams in the playoffs can only sign the amount of players they lose to Free Agency. Which is possibly the underlying reason they are letting Dansby go. The first four teams out are allowed to sign one free agent. I agree with your third point, we do have $17M of dead cap coming off the books which bodes well for at least some spending. If Samuels does not come back that is a ton of long term cash becoming available as well. I think it would be strange if we did not sign Ben Hamilton who played many years for Shanahan and should come relatively cheap. He is past his prime, but would be able to step in and allow Rinehart to stay as a backup for another year or two. You would have to think we re-sign Rabach as well, which would make Listchsenger the option of staying as a backup and providing depth. Our only dilemma left would be the two tackle spots. We are going to draft one with one of our two top 35 picks who will likely take over the RT. LT is the only enigma I am somewhat stuck on. There are a few out there, Neal (NE) and Clifton (GB), in free agency would could explore; or, perhaps Samuels does come back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 And, Mike doesn't know what the skins are going to do and that bothers him. He no longer can just type the same old crap he puts out every other off season.Nice to finally have football people running the show. that's because there were stories of Vinny calling ESPN to leak information. I think Bruce and Shanny and turning "The New" Redskins Park into Fort Know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvtbred Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 that's because there were stories of Vinny calling ESPN to leak information. I think Bruce and Shanny and turning "The New" Redskins Park into Fort Know. and I love it. Stay steady and quiet until it's time to leak. Use the tools you have to do so to your advantage and always I mean ALWAYS keep others off balance and guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgraw238 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 PFT: I got nuthin so I'll put this useless post out here to see if TK & JSteelz will give JLC & me something to poach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pram11 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 The most encouraging thing I take from that is we have a GM in place whose reputation is actually respected enough that the rest of the league is looking to see what he does. All Vinny ever got from the rest of the league were a bunch of jokes and laughs that he was employed in such a position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Fried Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 It'll be tough for us, trying to find a loophole this time. The cap will return at some point, and there would be hell to pay when it does, if we went out and got someone like Peppers or Wilfork. I think the main reason for the hush is that most teams will likely focus on signing their own guys. I've heard that if the cap goes away, it won't come back. I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 and I love it. Stay steady and quiet until it's time to leak. Use the tools you have to do so to your advantage and always I mean ALWAYS keep others off balance and guessing. This way when they leak something bogus it will work, it always backfired on Vinny. He cried wolf too much and it never worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBush Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 And, Mike doesn't know what the skins are going to do and that bothers him. He no longer can just type the same old crap he puts out every other off season.Nice to finally have football people running the show. This just makes a new marketing pitch: The new PFT Redskins section - Now with 200% more speculation and guessing. If he predicts a few possible moves he can get a few right. maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brial85 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 It'll be tough for us, trying to find a loophole this time. The cap will return at some point, and there would be hell to pay when it does, if we went out and got someone like Peppers or Wilfork. I think the main reason for the hush is that most teams will likely focus on signing their own guys. sounds like a complete guess... unless you can explain why there will be "hell" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Here's one loophole (underlined). http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/ 30 percent rule still looms over uncapped year Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2010 5:50 PM ET With the salary cap disappearing in 2010, plenty of players still under contract might be looking for new deals. If, after all, there's no spending limit and fewer free agents are available and guys are operating under deals done when a cap was in place, some of them might expect a big raise. But there's a problem, as one league source pointed out in response to our recent suggestion that the decision of Steve Smith (the young, good one) to change agents could be a sign that he wants to strike it rich. The 30 percent rule applies to the renegotiation of any contracts. It means that the player's salary in 2010 can't be more than 30 percent greater than the player's salary in 2009. For players still operating under the minimum base salaries of a slotted rookie deal, that's a problem. A big problem. But there's a loophole. NFL director of corporate communications Dan Masonson has confirmed for us that signing bonuses won't count toward the 30 percent rule. Still, it means that the bulk of a player's compensation would have to be funneled to him via a signing bonus, with limited base salaries in future years. While the player might be fine with that in 2010, the player might feel a lot differently in the out years of the deal. Then there's the looming lockout. Why would a team want to front load a deal with a huge signing bonus in 2010 if there might be no football in 2011? Every player who receives such a deal is one less player who will have to face the prospect of living game check to game check with no game check. So keep an eye on this angle as the uncapped year begins. Plenty of players under contract will want more money. It's unlikely that many will get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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