DWinzit Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 My feel is they're best if they can trade back a little and get more picks. They have a lot of holes. Assuming they are unable to get a willing trade partner what do think is their best move(s)? Go with one of the big DT's? That could really solidify their DL along with Carriker coming back from injury. Draft needed OL assistance? They sure need it! Grab one of the potential franchise QB's? If they take a QB then what do they do with Bulger? If they don't take a QB do they stick with Bulger? Do they bring in a vet QB and perhaps draft a QB later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoskins Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Well, I think they have needs all over the place. So what you don't want is a big bust. Given Suh's personality and work ethic, and given the position of DT, I think he has the best chance of coming in and contributing in a big way as a rookie. Or conversely, the least chance of being a big bust. Seems like the smart, safe choice to me. They also have the 33rd pick, right? that's pretty close to having another late first rounder basically to use somewhere else. Granted trading back would be good, but it just seems unlikely anyone would want to do that deal with them. (Well, at least now that Vinny isn't in the league. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Well, I think they have needs all over the place. So what you don't want is a big bust.Given Suh's personality and work ethic, and given the position of DT, I think he has the best chance of coming in and contributing in a big way as a rookie. Or conversely, the least chance of being a big bust. I agree 100%. They cannot afford to draft a player and have said player turn out to be a complete bust. I believe they either go with Suh or McCoy, both seem like the safest picks in this year's draft, and both have great upside. Then they could draft McCoy in the 2nd round or go with the best OT available to play RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmzznnxx Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 The Rams' defense last was ranked 31st I believe (it was one of the worst in the league no doubt) and while I don't think Marc Bulger is the greatest QB ever, I don't think he's as bad as he's made out to be either, and drafting a quarterback won't help them keep other teams out of the endzone. Drafting Suh or McCoy could have a considerable impact on the defense almost immediately and will only make the other 10 players on the defense better, and I think is the way they should go. Even without a ton of talent on the offensive side of the ball, they still have a great back in Steven Jackson. If St. Louis picked up some strong offensive linemen who could open holes for him, Jackson could run all over defenses, which would take pressure off of Bulger (or whoever is behind center), and improving the line is going to help the QB out any way, so I think that should be a priority too, but I think going with one of the top two DT's is the safest and best way to go, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Knowing how they did pretty much only from their stats and seeing just a few games, I'd have to say Bradford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Grundle Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 They should take Suh, but I think they'll go QB. They've been trying the past few years to rebuild from the inside out, with Carriker, Long, Smith....and they've just been getting worse. I don't see them going lineman again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 In a way, the Rams are in the perfect division to rebuild. The Seahawks are going to need a new QB very soon if not this year. Leinart is still an unknown, and Alex Smith is mediocre. If the Rams focus on D this year by taking McCoy or Suh, they will have a pretty young and dominant D-line in a division of weak QBs. If they end up trading for either Vick or Campbell (shut up, I can dream) to push Bulger, who should be fully healed next year, their O with Jackson and Avery might be enough for them to put off O-line or QB for another year,at which time they could have a pretty good D. So to sum, I think they pick DT and go safe this year, maybe gamble in later rounds and see how the O shakes out next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 If there was a clearcut franchise QB prospect I would say select him, but I don't see that player in this draft. I feel like taking Bradford or Clausen #1 would be a huge reach and similar to SF selecting Alex Smith #1 overall a few years back. After QB the next highest ranked position is usually a pass rusher. McCoy seems to be grading out better in this respect but Suh is generally the higher rated prospect. I think here they need to look at their division and what the other teams are trying to do. SF is a run first team, Ariona may become one if Leinart can't pick up where Warner left off, and Seattle is a bit of a mystery with a new coaching staff and possibly a new QB if they don't believe in Hasselbeck's ability to stay healthy. As of right now I think Suh is the pick if they can't trade out. Either tackle could help make that line a strength rather than a weakness. With high picks like Carriker and Chris Long they have too much invested to not be getting production from that spot. Maybe the addition of Suh or McCoy can free those guys up to do some damage. I would normally think it would be hard to justify three recent first round picks on DL but the current regime wasn't a part of those picks so they don't have to explain the previous selections. In conclusion I think it's Suh or McCoy (what a controversial opinion I have!) just depends on who grades out better for their particular philosophy on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 You have to go best player available, especially early in the draft. The key is to accumulate as much top notch talent as possible. I'd probably go with Suh but if Bradford or Clausen light it up at their workouts I may have to consider a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 If they end up trading for either Vick or Campbell (shut up, I can dream) to push Bulger,lol to your dreaming.There has been a bit of Vick to Rams talk. I thought it wasn't to push Bulger as much as it was to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 lol to your dreaming.There has been a bit of Vick to Rams talk. I thought it wasn't to push Bulger as much as it was to replace him. Well Vick hasn't been a starter for what, 3 years now? You obviously don't want to just hand the guy the job. But if you get Vick and keep Bulger, they gotta go either D or O-line for that pick. Of course they could trade for Vick, cut Bulger loose, and take a rookie at #1 if they feel so inclined. So I guess how the handle the QB situation determines what would be "best" for the #1 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I get the distinct feeling they'll acquire a QB outside of the draft and will take McCoy with their first pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Grab one of the potential franchise QB's? If they take a QB then what do they do with Bulger? If they don't take a QB do they stick with Bulger? Do they bring in a vet QB and perhaps draft a QB later? http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/14415/draft-qb-options-for-the-rams Draft, QB options for the Rams February, 21, 2010 Feb 21 10:00 AM ET Email Print Share By Mike Sando Acquiring Michael Vick from the Eagles via trade could be one option. Recent reports have suggested the Eagles might hold onto Vick until the exhibition season because this could maximize his value. I think Vick would be much more valuable to the Rams if they could get him into their offseason program as soon as possible. Chad Pennington could be another attractive option. He's scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent. The Rams' quarterbacks coach, Dick Curl, spent a few seasons with Pennington when both were with the Jets. I'm not sure how many other teams will pursue Pennington this offseason, but the Rams might be able to offer him something he could have a harder time finding elsewhere: a starting job. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://profootball.scout.com/2/947712.html I’ve been told that the Rams and Buccaneers have had exploratory discussions on a deal, which would involve the team’s first round selections (No. 1 and 3), possibly one of the Buccaneers second round picks (they have two picks in the second round: No. 35 and 42) or their third round pick (No. 67). Again, these discussions have been exploratory, as the Rams continue to investigate all of their options, but the deal involving the Rams and Bucs first round picks and Tampa Bay’s third round pick, not one of their second-round picks, is where it gets interesting. A source close to the situation in St. Louis told me that if a deal with the Eagles can’t be consummated prior to the draft, they may take the Bucs third round pick over one of their second round picks, because they’re “very high” on third-year quarterback Josh Johnson, who they would insist being in a potential trade with Tampa Bay. Rams officials compare Johnson favorably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGREENHULK Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 They need a QB almost as bad as we need OL...well that's not really true we need OL TWICE as much as they need a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 We shold trade up with them to make sure we can draft Eric Berry! Who let him in here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Suh. No other alternative is acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I agree with everyone that is saying they have to make a "safe" pick. They have alot of needs and can't afford to draft a bust #1 overall. I don't think their OL is horrible. Their defense is pretty bad though. Taking Suh would be the logical choice, plus he could help out their #2 pick from a few years ago, Chris Long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasfan Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Hard to tell this early in the process. Untill Bradford's medical evaluation and untill both QBs throw, I'd say Suh. But if your scouts are telling you either QB is a guy you need to take, then I'd trade down (if unable still take the QB at #1). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Who would be willing to trade into the #1 spot and the $$$ that comes with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Who would be willing to trade into the #1 spot and the $$$ that comes with it? Apparently the big rumor going around is that Tampa is willing to trade into the #1 spot to draft Suh. The deal I believe would be St. Louis trading down to #3, I'm not sure but I believe a 3rd or 4th round pick, and getting QB Josh Johnson, while Tampa Bay would move up to #1 to draft Suh, after missing out on Haynesworth last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 23, 2010 Author Share Posted February 23, 2010 Who would be willing to trade into the #1 spot and the $$$ that comes with it?I don't see it. Some team would need to totally fall in love in a single player who enamored them either in workouts, interviews or a combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 23, 2010 Author Share Posted February 23, 2010 Rams G.M. says he has had no talks with the Bucs Posted by Mike Florio on February 22, 2010 8:47 PM ET In response to a report that the Buccaneers and the Rams are talking about a trade that would allow Tampa to jump from No. 3 to the top spot in the 2010 draft, St. Louis G.M. Billy Devaney said in a chat on the team's web site that he has had no discussions with Tampa. "I am being completely honest when I say that I have not talked to anyone in Tampa Bay," Devaney said. "I'm not saying that won't happen at some point but to date there is absolutely nothing going on." Since Devaney said he's being completely honest, we'll believe him. And we're being completely honest when we say that. That's not a knock on Devaney; it's a comment regarding the reality of the pre-draft maneuverings. It's an extended game of poker, where deception is part of the dance. And the truth gets told only when doing so meshes with the overall strategic objectives of the team. Either way, Devaney left the door open -- and that makes sense. The Rams have problems far bigger than any one player can fix, and if they can turn that No. 1 selection into multiple draft choices, they should explore any such possibilities. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/22/rams-gm-says-he-has-had-no-talks-with-the-bucsa/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted March 13, 2010 Author Share Posted March 13, 2010 Interesting theory: Drafting Bradford could bring job security in St. Louis Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2010 10:54 AM ET In a recent Inside the NFL column for SI.com, Ross Tucker raises a theory that, while admittedly cynical, is inherently sensible. If the Rams use the first overall pick in the 2010 draft on Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford, could G.M. Billy Devaney and coach Steve Spagnuolo be acquiring job security? The answer, we believe, is "probably." Since new G.M.'s like to hire their own coaches and new coaches like to find their own quarterbacks, the Rams would be creating a mess by cleaning out all or part of the house a year after making Bradford the latest (and possibly last) grand-prize winner in the NFL mega-millions lottery game. Of course, that fact could keep whoever has the reins of the Rams from signing off on picking a quarterback. If Shahid Khan or Stan Kroenke or Chip Rosenbloom or Rush Limbaugh (just making sure you're paying attention) prefer that there be no practical impediments to pulling the plug on the current football operations, then the Rams will make do with A.J. Feeley or Marc Bulger or Jake Delhomme or Derek Anderson or some other guy to whom the financial commitment won't handcuff ownership if the trend from 3-13 to 2-14 to 1-15 continues to the next logical step. Even if Devaney and Spagnuolo get the green light to go with Bradford, there's no guarantee that ownership will recognize the potential problem that comes from hiring new football people to work with a quarterback with whom they don't feel comfortable. Alternatively, one of the key factors of the next hiring process could be a clear and legitimate willingness to work with Bradford. Complicating matters is that taking a guy like Ndamukong Suh could, in theory, improve the team more immediately, if Suh quickly becomes everything that everyone who never is held accountable for building up draft picks claims he will be. In the end, however, it's safe to say that Devaney and/or Spagnuolo would be able to make a stronger case for coming back in 2011 if Bradford becomes the first overall pick. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/13/drafting-bradford-could-bring-job-security-in-st-louis/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWUeagleMD Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Whichever player their scouts have given the highest grade. Popular opinion, and perceived need are irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Trading the 1st overall and their franchise for a bag of chips. That team sucks ass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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