ESPN: Skins' Campbell won't go quietly

[NewCliche21]

Drivel. There are 3 other QBs on the roster who are better than Campbell. As Newera correctly states ... there has never been any competition to disprove this sad fact. The "mysterious" pass Jason has received has been revoked.

I know of Brennan and Collins. Who's our fourth quarterback?

[mistertim]

I know of Brennan and Collins. Who's our fourth quarterback?

Maybe he is talking about the practice squad guy (Bartell?) that we signed off of the Jag's PS.

Gregpeck is comedy gold.

[NewCliche21]

Maybe he is talking about the practice squad guy (Bartell?) that we signed off of the Jag's PS.

Gregpeck is comedy gold.

The zealots on either side of this argument are just ridiculous.

"We have four quarterbacks!"

"Campbell would be a Hall of Famer if only the humidity were below the average of the jersey numbers of our third-down defensive ends during the second half of the fourth preseason game!"

"I refuse to eat Campbell's soup!"

"I am buying a Taco Bell franchise and renaming it 'Camp Bell'!"

[mistertim]

I think my personal favorite is "He is worse than Heath Shuler"

[Gibbsisgod2006]

That has been disproven time and time again since the season ended. JC scored 16 of his touchdowns before the 4th quarter, passed for more yardage in the 3rd quarter than the 4th quarter and had a quarterback rating and passing percentage higher in the 3rd than 4th quarter. All of his best stats came before "garbage time at the end of the game".

Where are the stats on it? Link?

[ST is my boy]

The entire team and organization, not JC alone, were a total mess.

That being said, I see no reason to want to keep at best, a game manager here as our quarterback.

That just isn't a recipe for consistent success. We should strive for much better.

Which is why we draft a quarterback......and let the game manager keep the seat warm.

[fansince62]

I agree with you, he never had anytime to throw a deep pass or have time to move the pocket and let someone get open. Kyle Shanahan will bring the best out of JC, he will do very well in this system.. Schaub did amazing with much less talent.

yea...that's been the excuse his entire career!

[@DCGoldPants]

Good for Jason.

Even our new front office realizes that the OL/Running game/WR Corp were amongst the least QB friendly in the NFL. Not to mention again......even if he's not the long term future. He's better than any rookie or free agent for 2010.

For all we know, Shanny said that we might still go after a rookie but it will be about performance, not who brought the guy in.

[fansince62]

all of this could be settled by letting JC hit the market or signing and trading. any speculation on what he would command?

[Jethrodsp]

I bet Jason goes for 3500 yards, 25 tds, 12 ints next season and if Shanahan can get the running game into the top 10 with our defense, the Redskins go 10-6. Jason Campbell will then be resigned to a multi-year deal and the vocal minority on this board who have nothing positive to say in regards to Jason will lose their collective minds trying to comprehend that there's more to winning and losing than a quarterback.

[zCommander]

I bet Jason goes for 3500 yards, 25 tds, 12 ints next season and if Shanahan can get the running game into the top 10 with our defense, the Redskins go 10-6. Jason Campbell will then be resigned to a multi-year deal and the vocal minority on this board who have nothing positive to say in regards to Jason will lose their collective minds trying to comprehend that there's more to winning and losing than a quarterback.

What if he is traded? What will happen to the Camp of Campbell?

[wvtbred]

The explosion of the heads of some posters on here when/if we don't draft one would be equally thread worthy.

Still have Colt and Todd as of right now if they don't and the job won't be handed to Jason. Shanny will have real open competition at almost if not all positions.

If we still draft one and it is Bradford or Clausen it's going to be hard to keep them off the field IMO. Again it also depends on the contract we offer Jason. He and his agent are not going to like a one year with the uncertainty of the 2011 season.

Go ahead and grab onto this and enjoy the thread of news because it's still a long way to opening day.

HTTR!

[NewCliche21]

Still have Colt and Todd as of right now if they don't and the job won't be handed to Jason. Shanny will have real open competition at almost if not all positions.

If we still draft one and it is Bradford or Clausen it's going to be hard to keep them off the field IMO. Again it also depends on the contract we offer Jason. He and his agent are not going to like a one year with the uncertainty of the 2011 season.

Go ahead and grab onto this and enjoy the thread of news because it's still a long way to opening day.

HTTR!

A legitimate question:

If (and Lord knows we'll all be pissed) Shanahan has that open competition and Campbell is our starting quarterback, then what?

I'm not saying that it'll happen, and I'm not hoping either way, but will Shanahan be considered foolish by posters on this board (not aimed at wvtbred in particular) even though Campbell won fair and square?

[Fred Jones]

Still have Colt and Todd as of right now if they don't and the job won't be handed to Jason. Shanny will have real open competition at almost if not all positions.

If we still draft one and it is Bradford or Clausen it's going to be hard to keep them off the field IMO. Again it also depends on the contract we offer Jason. He and his agent are not going to like a one year with the uncertainty of the 2011 season.

Go ahead and grab onto this and enjoy the thread of news because it's still a long way to opening day.

HTTR!

First, as a fan of the team, I don't understand the hate for JC.

Second, your ability to evaluate talent is suspect. Colt is not very good and TC is a backup at best.

JC will be the starter come game one, bank it. That is regardless if we draft a QB or not.

To say Shanny will have open competition at all positions is stating the obvious. It will be interesting to see what he does at QB. I believe JC will be given the starting position to start the season.

That said, who will be the starting QB the second half of the season will depend on the play of JC and who is on the roster.

I think what I am about to write is incorrect and not logical assumptions, but it is what I see when I read JC hater posts.

Based on College Info:

We draft Bradford and he is hurt after a couple of games because we didn't upgrade the line.

Jimmywage didn't win in college with the team he played for so what makes you think he can win in the NFL?

[wvtbred]

A legitimate question:

If (and Lord knows we'll all be pissed) Shanahan has that open competition and Campbell is our starting quarterback, then what?

I'm not saying that it'll happen, and I'm not hoping either way, but will Shanahan be considered foolish by posters on this board (not aimed at wvtbred in particular) even though Campbell won fair and square?

Then I have to go with what Team Shanny decides but I will still not go to games or buy any merch just like I have since the the beginning of 2008.

[Gibbsisgod2006]

Based on College Info:

We draft Bradford and he is hurt after a couple of games because we didn't upgrade the line.

Jimmywage didn't win in college with the team he played for so what makes you think he can win in the NFL?

Who is to say that Bradford will start the first year? If you can get something decent in return for Jason I think you do it and sign a Veteren QB. You draft a lineman with other picks.

[gortiz]

Why would a coach tell him won't be here if he wants to trade him. Food for thought.

cause ...not every coach is a back stabber. if he was gonna trade him he would tell him ... or not sit down to talk to him.

[wvtbred]

cause ...not every coach is a back stabber. if he was gonna trade him he would tell him ... or not sit down to talk to him.

I don't think so at all. It's a game of trying to get the most you can. Shanny can always say "well they made us an offer that helped us both".

You also have to throw the contract issue into this and many are dismissing that fact. Without a CBA it's going to be interesting but we don't have to match a big offer for him and we can negotiate a lower value. That's if Jason and his agent force a trade issue if they don't like the tender.

A lot can still happen.

[jbowman]

The two top rated QBs in this years draft both were injured last year. Campbell has proven he can get through the season while being in the top 5 of QB's hit. Even if we did draft a Bradford or Claussen, Campbell is the only one who's going to make it behind that line next year.

[wvtbred]

The two top rated QBs in this years draft both were injured last year. Campbell has proven he can get through the season while being in the top 5 of QB's hit. Even if we did draft a Bradford or Claussen, Campbell is the only one who's going to make it behind that line next year.

Pure speculation. If this was just after the 2007 season you might think differently.

In the NFL everyone is one play away from injury.

[The Full Monty]

I've said this in other threads, but I'll say it again here: Campbell will play really good this year and with a better line he will put up better numbers. But even despite that, I don't seem him as a QB that can take us into the NFC title game or the Super Bowl. I think, with perfect protection and a good running game to support him, he can get us a wild card spot and maybe a trip to the divisional round at best.

Campbell needs so many things to be perfect for him to excel. His release is still a wind-up and too slow about half the time and he doesn't hit receivers in stride consistently. I fully expect him to improve those weaknesses under Shanahan, but not totally. They've been in his game for all these years and they won't ever totally go away.

[gortiz]

Campbell was set up to fail by an administration that neglected the offensive line for the better part of a decade.

how can this be refuted?

[Gibbsisgod2006]

how can this be refuted?

So was Ben Rothlisberger and Aaron Rodgers set up failure? They were sacked more then JC.

[DCMONEY]

When did he say he had a great season? He said he was able to put up one of his best seasons besides a bunch of turmoil. If you watched last season and don't think the word "turmoil" applies to the cluster**** that was going on all the way from the OL falling apart to the coaching to the moronathon of an FO, I don't know what to tell you.

Like it or not, what he said is true. When you go 4-12 the QB is always the biggest one under the microscope. I'm guessing he is at least a bit sick of people pointing the finger at him and talking about how he is horrible and its mostly his fault, even though he was one of the few people on offense that actually even showed up.

I get it. You all want him to come out and just admit that he stunk and put all the burden on his shoulders, even if it is complete BS. That is being a leader? "Well, everyone seems to think this...so I guess I'll just say it to appease them". That sounds more cowardly than sticking up for yourself. It isn't like he threw certain players or coaches under the bus. He simply stated another fact: he did get pressured very quickly, all the damn time.

Slim well put. :notworthy:notworthy

[Hitman21ST]

So was Ben Rothlisberger and Aaron Rodgers set up failure? They were sacked more then JC.

Maybe, but at least Big Ben holds on to the ball a lot longer than JC. Don't know about Aaron Rodgers. Ben's line gave him more than more than enough time. It's not like they were being hit on three step drops on a regular basis like JC was. The Steelers and the Packers also had good running games, something that's solely on the line. That's why our line is considered the worst. No running game, and let JC keep getting hit on three step drops. Not just number of sacks.