THE HAMMER'IN HOG Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 If that's the plan then... Well we already know how bad it can get so WTF lets try it again. Second verse same as the first.The more I read coming out of Redskin Park the more confidence I lose. A perfect rebuilding time is upon us and it's the SOS. So I guess the excuse next offseason is Campbell was playing behind a young inexperienced line, things will be better in year 2 under Shanny. To many do not understand how much an intelligent QB can effect a game regardless of the circumstances. There is never to many excuses for JC, no matter how ridiculous they may be, so long as he is some how not responsible the CDT will always have an excuse on why he has failed, or why he has not failed, which are one in the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal2Washington Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 So if Shanny and Allen decide to go heavy on OL this draft instead of doing what you apparently want (drafting a QB) does that still qualify as the "SOS" to you, seeing as how this team has been neglecting the OL for the last decade? Sort of seems like you only qualify Campbell as the "SOS". Where did I say I wanted to draft a QB??? I didn't, that's just you jumping to a conclusion, so I should really stop here but I won't. Just for giggles though tell me again how great JC was with a Pro-Bowl LT. Also this isn't the only news to come out about the Redskins, notice how I said "The more I read" meaning more then this one particular topic. Anyways I will be excited about any/all draft day moves as they will be dictated by a FO that doesn't included Vinny. This includes the drafting of a QB or OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 he better hurry up and really get in Shanahan's good graces. he needs to just keep doing work to get better. i wish him and our damn wideouts would meet up and get some chemistry going. then maybe he will stop throwing 5 feet over santana's head and 5 yards aways from him when he's down field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 To many do not understand how much an intelligent QB can effect a game regardless of the circumstances. One of the best QBs to probably ever play the game running one of the most potent offenses to ever step on the field got his ass handed to him a couple years ago when his OL broke down in the SB. So yeah, "regardless of the circumstances" is complete nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCitySkins Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Just for giggles though tell me again how great JC was with a Pro-Bowl LT. A Pro-Bowl LT who missed half of season 2008 and almost all of season 2009. Doesn't do much good if he's not even in the game. And he was replace by Levi Jones who gave up a whopping 39 sacks, hits and qb pressures. Also, last time I watched there were 4 other lineman playing. Who, BTW, made up 10 different starting combinations in 2009. Now what were you saying about JC's Pro-Bowl being tied to Samuels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal2Washington Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 One of the best QBs to probably ever play the game running one of the most potent offenses to ever step on the field got his ass handed to him when his OL broke down in the SB. So yeah, "regardless of the circumstances" is complete nonsense. Got his ass handed to him by another future HOF QB, great argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mistertim Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Where did I say I wanted to draft a QB??? I didn't, that's just you jumping to a conclusion, so I should really stop here but I won't. Just for giggles though tell me again how great JC was with a Pro-Bowl LT. Also this isn't the only news to come out about the Redskins, notice how I said "The more I read" meaning more then this one particular topic. Anyways I will be excited about any/all draft day moves as they will be dictated by a FO that doesn't included Vinny. This includes the drafting of a QB or OL. Ok. This is a thread about Campbell possibly sticking around; that being "the plan". You then posted and railed about how that plan was bad and it was the SOS all over again. Is it really hard to come to a conclusion that you don't want Campbell here? And if you don't, it would also be a logical conclusion that you want to draft one. Unless you think Colt is suddenly going to set the world on fire. So then, if I was wrong about it, what exactly is it you're upset about? What would you like to see us do in the draft then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Got his ass handed to him by another future HOF QB, great argument. Huh? Eli is a future HOF QB? Could he be eventually? Maybe but I wouldn't bank on it. But he is definitely not in the same class as Peyton or Brees or Brady. No, he got his ass handed to him when his OL broke down and the Giants sacked him over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmiii Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Let he who knows more about football than Mike Shanahan and his coaching staff stand up now. Otherwise, trust the coaching staff to do the right things. Don't believe anything until it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal2Washington Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 A Pro-Bowl LT who missed half of season 2008 and almost all of season 2009. Doesn't do much good if he's not even in the game. And several different LT's were used to try to replace him. Also, last time I watched there were 4 other lineman playing. Who, BTW, made up 10 different starting combinations in 2009. Now what were you saying about JC's Pro-Bowl being tied to Samuels. Remember that 2007 season Good try though. Oh and Samuels got injured when the season already began to unravel in 08, i highly doubt that's what made the offense look like doo-doo but hey I could be wrong. Hell as far as 09 goes there was talk around here the Levi Jones was playing just as good as Samuels, explain that one. Lets not pretend we had the worst OL of all-time now. What was Indy's rank in rushing last year??? How many LT's the caliber of Samuels did Brees play with??? I have no idea what you're talking about JC's Pro-Bowls??? Lets be clear please. I'm sure you were going for some great point but it just didn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 No, he got his ass handed to him when his OL broke down and the Giants sacked him over and over. i was going to say....eli doesnt play d. that was a really odd post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 One thing about the plan is pretty clear and it's really not up to JC or Shanny/Allen, it's up to some team that might come along and offer up a pick(s) that we can't refuse. We know this, one of three things will happen. We either get something for him this year, he walks free in 2011 or he plays out a 1-year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal2Washington Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Huh? Eli is a future HOF QB? Could he be eventually? Maybe but I wouldn't bank on it. But he is definitely not in the same class as Peyton or Brees or Brady. No, he got his ass handed to him when his OL broke down and the Giants sacked him over and over. See my post is in response to your original post, not the one you re-edited. Your original post is something different so please don't imply, something you are very good at, I am talking about Eli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Got his ass handed to him by another future HOF QB, great argument. Dude, what the hell are you talking about? Unless you're calling Eli Manning a future HOF QB, then I believe you're thinking of the wrong game ... And explain how exactly everything you've heard equates to the SOS? The funny thing is that we've heard essentially nothing from the FO. NOTHING. Everything spoken about essentially speculation and pure guesses from supposed NFL "experts". The truth is, nobody knows exactly what Shanahan and Allen really want to do. That's the beauty of this. Shanahan has always been extremely good at playing things close to the chest. I am curious though. How exactly does Campbell remaining here equate to SOS? Just because Campbell supposedly will be here doesn't mean he'll A) start without a doubt or be Mike's guy for the future. It's all very up in the air right now. Have a little faith in the guy who has made every QB he's coached play better, and has never accepted mediocrity from any QB who has played for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarey032 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 You think that even if we draft a QB, that they are going to put the new prospect in the line of fire immediatey? Besides Shanny and Allen want to be competitive right away and Campbell gives us the ability to do that. Who else can we get via free agency that is going to make us competitive. Besides with our tough schedule next year, the powers that be will be keep Campbell in for at least mid-season. If the season is going down, then Allen and Shanny will throw the new guy in because that will keep excitement on and about the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 If that's the plan, it's time to draw up a new one.Hail. Hahaha, don't necessarily agree, but I like that line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 See my post is in response to your original post, not the one you re-edited. Your original post is something different so please don't imply, something you are very good at, I am talking about Eli. i think you didnt mean to quote the part you did in your post at the top of the page. i think thats the source of the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal2Washington Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 So then, if I was wrong about it, what exactly is it you're upset about? What would you like to see us do in the draft then? Re-read all of my reply if you are going to ask that question about the draft. You seem to be the one upset that I'm not campaigning for JC to receive a new 5 year deal or giving him a vote of confidence. I simply made the observation that recent developments have caused me to question the teams direction that doesn't imply anger, you again assume I'm anger at the decision of JC maybe being the QB again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal2Washington Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Dude, what the hell are you talking about? Unless you're calling Eli Manning a future HOF QB, then I believe you're thinking of the wrong game ...And explain how exactly everything you've heard equates to the SOS? The funny thing is that we've heard essentially nothing from the FO. NOTHING. Everything spoken about essentially speculation and pure guesses from supposed NFL "experts". The truth is, nobody knows exactly what Shanahan and Allen really want to do. That's the beauty of this. Shanahan has always been extremely good at playing things close to the chest. I am curious though. How exactly does Campbell remaining here equate to SOS? Just because Campbell supposedly will be here doesn't mean he'll A) start without a doubt or be Mike's guy for the future. It's all very up in the air right now. Have a little faith in the guy who has made every QB he's coached play better, and has never accepted mediocrity from any QB who has played for him. No in his original post he never mentions the New England-Giants Super Bowl, so when he mentions HOF QB getting his ass handed to him that would be the most recent Super Bowl played. Read the post I quoted in my response, at the top of this page. He edited his remarks in which case then no I wouldn't consider Eli a HOF QB. Players haven't given interviews??? Coaches haven't made any comments??? Redskin Park hasn't become Fort Knox my friend. I'm not making assumptions or guessing about what's going to happen I commented on whats concrete. Hope you're right in your last statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCitySkins Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Remember that 2007 season Good try though. Oh and Samuels got injured when the season already began to unravel in 08, i highly doubt that's what made the offense look like doo-doo but hey I could be wrong. Hell as far as 09 goes there was talk around here the Levi Jones was playing just as good as Samuels, explain that one. Lets not pretend we had the worst OL of all-time now. What was Indy's rank in rushing last year??? How many LT's the caliber of Samuels did Brees play with???I have no idea what you're talking about JC's Pro-Bowls??? Lets be clear please. I'm sure you were going for some great point but it just didn't work out. I was referring to your sarcastic remark about JC's "great play" with a Pro-Bowl LT. I should have wrote "great play" not Pro-Bowl. Samuels was injured twice in 2008. The first time was in early Oct. before the season unraveled. And so far as Jones playing as well as Samuels. His play was horrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal2Washington Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 i think you didnt mean to quote the part you did in your post at the top of the page. i think thats the source of the confusion. Yeah that was his original post, which he since re-edited, so that basically makes my post useless as I would agree with MisterTim on that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouBrave86 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 What we need is a dominant o-line, a great defense, and two of the best running-backs in the NFL for Campbell to "lead" us to a winning record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 You have my support Jason! Approach it like a professional and let the chips fall where they may. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 im just hoping we can bump this thread for lols when hes traded or released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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