heliKCx17 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d8166b4a7&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true Alright guys, I think we can all agree that, in general, the guys at NFL.com are more accurate than the guys over at ESPN. Bucky Brooks has just come out with a draft, and I know many of you have scoffed at the mocks that show only 1 QB in the first round, but there is a growing number of them from 'real' mockers. I'm starting to think they may be right, as there are tons of questions about both QBs. Between injuries, Bradford's frail frame and spread O, and Clausen's attitude and lack of upside, I can see both of these guys falling out of the top half of the first round. I think that we all have a skewed representation of the draft because of guys like Kiper and McShay that have the rest of the internet buzzing about two QBs landing in the too half of the first. Take away those two guys, and I think all the mocks on the net would look incredibly different. Anyway, if it seems possible on draft day, look for Shanny to go with an OT early and wait to jump into the first round late and grab a top two QB. I wouldn't take it to the bank, but I give it a very, very solid chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I cant really take the seriously when Bradford falls to the 20s and no Jimmy Clausen. Fail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I cant really take the seriously when Bradford falls to the 20s and no Jimmy Clausen. Fail! Seriously, there's too many teams that need a qb for prospects like Clausen and Bradford to fall like they have in this mock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANTAYLOR=HITMAN Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I think we should careless who drops where and just hope we get the guy we need Okung or Bradford sound good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I cant really take the seriously when Bradford falls to the 20s and no Jimmy Clausen. Fail! No ones suppose to take it seriously, it's only a mock. However, that scenario is not out of the question, there are only two qb's that are 1st round material in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Both QB's have some holes in their game. It's certainly plausable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 His name is Bucky. I stopped right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 You have to consider, a lot of people are saying that if Washington skips Bradford in favor of a tackle, then chances are good that Bradford's shoulder didn't check out very well (due to the Dr. Andrews/Redskins connection) and he's a risk to take too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Along with the fact that Spread Offense QB's generally do very poorly in the NFL.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 The way people are talking it seems like if the Skins don't take a QB it could be a long time till one is taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heliKCx17 Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 Seriously, there's too many teams that need a qb for prospects like Clausen and Bradford to fall like they have in this mock. It's happened twice in the past 5 years...Brady Quinn...who needed a QB before him? Miami, Bills, Niners, Falcons, Vikings....well, I won't list them all, but there were AT LEAST ten teams that passed on him that had not much at QB. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NFL_Draft Aaron Rodgers...Again, plenty of teams with literally no answer at QB passed on him. And he was a VERY good prospect. Ravens, Raiders, Jags, Cards, Vikings (twice), Texans, Chiefs, Saints, Chargers, Lions, Bucs, Bears, Browns...any of these teams have a decent QB situation then? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NFL_Draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Bob Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I have seen several mocks indicating that if the Skins do not take Bradford he will drop. The sense is that only a team really determined to draft a QB no matter what would take him near the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 It's happened twice in the past 5 years...Brady Quinn...who needed a QB before him? Miami, Bills, Niners, Falcons, Vikings....well, I won't list them all, but there were AT LEAST ten teams that passed on him that had not much at QB.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NFL_Draft Aaron Rodgers...Again, plenty of teams with literally no answer at QB passed on him. And he was a VERY good prospect. Ravens, Raiders, Jags, Cards, Vikings (twice), Texans, Chiefs, Saints, Chargers, Lions, Bucs, Bears, Browns...any of these teams have a decent QB situation then? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NFL_Draft ... both of those drafts had a QB taken 1st overall. There's no way the 1st QB is being drafted in the 20s this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 wow one of the worst mocks I've seen. I wonder if the editors at NFL.com look over this stuff before posting it? He has Berry going 13th?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icbmayday Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Bradford will definitely go in the first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut0862 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 This is the first mock I've seen that has Mount Cody going in the top 20 picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaBeachRedskin Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 wow one of the worst mocks I've seen. I wonder if the editors at NFL.com look over this stuff before posting it?He has Berry going 13th?? Wes Bunting's 1st mock easily takes the cake as the worst mock of this draft season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmester Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 wow one of the worst mocks I've seen. I wonder if the editors at NFL.com look over this stuff before posting it?He has Berry going 13th?? I disagree. This is actually one of the better mocks that I have seen. Bradford's and clausen are so far from sure things and there looks to be quite a few qbs available via trade/fa (Vick, mcnabb/kolb, Pennington, rosenfels, volek, Troy Smith, Quinn/Anderson, Clemens, Kerry Collins, bulgier). Not that all of those guys are good qbs, but some are huge upgrades to a numerous of teams. And on top of that, most of the teams in need of a qb this year have terrible o-lines and this is much better ol class then it is qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett81 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I disagree. This is actually one of the better mocks that I have seen. Bradford's and clausen are so far from sure things and there looks to be quite a few qbs available via trade/fa (Vick, mcnabb/kolb, Pennington, rosenfels, volek, Troy Smith, Quinn/Anderson, Clemens, Kerry Collins, BULGIER). I disagree. This is actually just another pretend draft that lives up to it's name...MOCK...as in it's here for us all to mock. The QB's in this draft aren't the greatest crop of recent talent, but the top tier are very accurate passers. As for the FA QB's you listed...I have to throw the BS flag on a few... Vick - might as well play WR Pennington - noodle arm is all but on both feet in the football grave Rosenfels/Volek - never proved anything and have been around a while, might as well take youth Kerry Collins - I was happy to see him show some promise the past season and a half, but he's pretty much over with now...last hurrah Bulgier (really, Bul-Gier?) - as for mister bulgy lol, he's been done 2 seasons ago At this point dealing with Mr Fav-re's crap timeline (if he left MINNY) is a better option than all listed above except maybe Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson. Oh btw, JPP at 3rd overall is horrible...I'm pretty sure the Tyson Jackson pick is still fresh in every NFL mind from last years draft (bet the Chef's wish they had Rak now lol)...3rd overall is way to high to gamble on a pick off shear promise and not consistent production, like Suh or Gerald McCoy or Eric Berry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 The Chiefs have been missing more than hitting with these top 1st drafts for some time now . But this is a terrible mock draft. Another thing is I really don't think after Long and Carricker have been taken in the last 3 drafts in the top 15 (including 2nd overall) I dont think Suh is such a lock to go to the rams because that is an awful lot of resources on the DL what is a talent starved roster . What might be an interesting move is the Bucs trading with the Rams to move up from 3 to 1 to snag Suh who is by far the guy they covet at the moment and at No.3. The Rams would be able to either make another trade or pick up Clausen or Bradford before us . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck812 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 This is just a weak draft for QBs.. If one goes early its going to be because us or someone else reaches for one and not because they are worthy of a high pick. I think Bradford and Clausen or mid first rounders myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I disagree. This is actually one of the better mocks that I have seen. Bradford's and clausen are so far from sure things and there looks to be quite a few qbs available via trade/fa (Vick, mcnabb/kolb, Pennington, rosenfels, volek, Troy Smith, Quinn/Anderson, Clemens, Kerry Collins, bulgier). Not that all of those guys are good qbs, but some are huge upgrades to a numerous of teams. And on top of that, most of the teams in need of a qb this year have terrible o-lines and this is much better ol class then it is qb. The only QB's on your list who are in anyway a realistiv attempt by a club in need of a QB upgrade to do more than put a sticking plaster on it are McNabb/Kolb. Vick maybe but only if you are prepared to totally base your offense around him. The chances of the Eagles dealing any of those 3 to us are slim to none by the way. The rest of those guys are either journeymen who could hold the fort for a year if you are rebuilding or are literally on their last legs and should probably be backups. No QB drafted is a sure thing but there are very slim pickings in free agency. The draft and/or Jason Campbell is probably the decision we have to make. As for Bradford or Clausen falling its certainly possible but unless they really stink in workouts or fail a medical I think its very unlikely one of them does not go in the top 10 at least. It only takes one coach/front offcie to be sold on them to make the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I cant really take the seriously when Bradford falls to the 20s and no Jimmy Clausen. Fail! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NFL_Draft At this point I believe that you're probably right, but it only takes a short look back to see a draft where I thought the same thing. Brady Quinn was looking at top ten and only went 22 because Cleveland traded up to get him (and JaMarcus shouldn't have been there at all). With the questions surrounding these two players, I don't think you can rule out the possibility of a drop. If a few teams don't think the money is worth the risk, the top QB's could drop a bit. Seattle could use their 14th on a QB, but once you get into the mid-teens and higher those teams have a QB already. Guess it all depends on how teams see these guys long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Both QB's have some holes in their game. It's certainly plausable. Definitely. Personally I would rather see Mock Drafts by ex-Scouts and GMs since they would be more accurate. That being said, I definitely agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heliKCx17 Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 This is just a weak draft for QBs.. If one goes early its going to be because us or someone else reaches for one and not because they are worthy of a high pick. I think Bradford and Clausen or mid first rounders myself. Exactly. Bradford and Clausen will not be taken just because they are the best QBs on the board. If people decide they are no better than Trent Edwards or John Beck, maybe even Josh Freeman or Joe Flacco, the two will drop hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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