Why isn't there a right wing answer to the daily show or colbert show?

[greenspandan]

I think you might be on to something, but the real reason is...if conservatives clowned on prominent Libs and their policies they would be labeled xenophobes, racists, etc. Oh wait, this is already happening.

Take the governer of New York for example. He is on his way out and is kciking and screaming racism. If there was a conservative Daily Show to bash him daily, he would scream "See, I told you so! It's a conservative white male conspiracy to keep a blind black man out of office, nevermind the fact that I'm a piece of ****!".

this is an interesting habit that conservatives are constantly engaging in. making up an imaginary story about how liberals would act in a hypothetical situation, and then getting worked up and railing against this fantasy. none of the events in the above post happened anywhere but in the poster's imagination, but they enrage him as if they were real.

[Heisenberg]

This thread delivers.

The ES comedians are out in full force. (Although I'm not sure all of them know who they are)

[Hiro]

Even though Stewart is a Democrat, it's been demonstrated on this forum numerous times that they don't play favorites when it comes to satire.

I remember last year hearing all about how with Obama's election the show would have nothing to make fun of, (some even claimed it would be cancelled due to a lack of material, or a lack of desire to make fun of Obama) and it just hasn't been the case. They fire slings and arrows at everyone.

This.

Stewart and Colbert may be liberals by idealism, but they're pretty impartial and make fun of just about anyone who deserves it.

[BeerMuscles]

this is an interesting habit that conservatives are constantly engaging in. making up an imaginary story about how liberals would act in a hypothetical situation, and then getting worked up and railing against this fantasy. none of the events in the above post happened anywhere but in the poster's imagination, but they enrage him as if they were real.

Wow, you are out of touch with reality. First, you think that wouldn't happen? Really?

Secondly, aren't all conservative commentators constantly referred to as xenophobes, racists, etc. like I stated? What makes you think a conservative comedy show wouldn't be labeled the same.

By the way, it's not a hypothetical situation, it happends regularly.

[Bliz]

Hah, I think traditionally you'll find most comics, even politically liberal comics, say that you got that backwards. Republicans and Democrats tend to laugh at comics making fun of Republicans/Conservatives. Dems get mad when you make fun of them (of course the pubs still laugh).

I think you're the one who has it backwards.

This thread and all the other Daily Show threads will show you a million examples of shots on Dems. For a show with a liberal audience, clearly they are laughing at themselves and enjoying some self-deprecating humor (a hallmark of Jewish humor, a group that also tends to be largely Democratic)

When was the last time you heard "entertainers" like Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh make fun of Pubs? Virtually never.

But if you have a link or something to back up that comment, I'd love to see it.

[Bliz]

I think you might be on to something, but the real reason is...if conservatives clowned on prominent Libs and their policies they would be labeled xenophobes, racists, etc. Oh wait, this is already happening.

Take the governer of New York for example. He is on his way out and is kciking and screaming racism. If there was a conservative Daily Show to bash him daily, he would scream "See, I told you so! It's a conservative white male conspiracy to keep a blind black man out of office, nevermind the fact that I'm a piece of ****!".

:doh: Seriously?

That is just ridiculous, and I'm being kind. Politicians don't respond to comedians (only exception I can think of is Palin. Hmmm).

Dems don't respond to Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, etc. why in the eff would they respond like that to a conservative Daily Show?

[greenspandan]

Wow, you are out of touch with reality. First, you think that wouldn't happen? Really?

Secondly, aren't all conservative commentators constantly referred to as xenophobes, racists, etc. like I stated? What makes you think a conservative comedy show wouldn't be labeled the same.

By the way, it's not a hypothetical situation, it happends regularly.

interesting. are you truly unable to distinguish between things that happened in your mind and things that happened in real life?

you described two scenarios using "if", "then", and "would", and then declared that they were fact.

here is your quote again, with emphasis added, to highlight that everything you described was made up. you are outraged by a pair of hypothetical situation that you invented.

I think you might be on to something, but the real reason is...if conservatives clowned on prominent Libs and their policies they would be labeled xenophobes, racists, etc. Oh wait, this is already happening.

Take the governer of New York for example. He is on his way out and is kciking and screaming racism. If there was a conservative Daily Show to bash him daily, he would scream "See, I told you so! It's a conservative white male conspiracy to keep a blind black man out of office, nevermind the fact that I'm a piece of ****!".

[BeerMuscles]

interesting. are you truly unable to distinguish between things that happened in your mind and things that happened in real life?

you described two scenarios using "if", "then", and "would", and then declared that they were fact.

here is your quote again, with emphasis added, to highlight that everything you described was made up. you are outraged by a pair of hypothetical situation that you invented.

Well snizzity snaps in my face! First of all I wasn't outraged about anything. I just described what has happened numerous times over.

Let me break it down for you. It's called a hypothetical. If I wanted to I'm sure I could google all kinds of **** that happened exactly as described.

See, some peoples brains can do something called extropolate, which is probably too big a word for you so I'll give you the definition. Extrapolate in a nutshell is to take what is known and make a conjecture.

[Bang]

Wow, you are out of touch with reality. First, you think that wouldn't happen? Really?

Secondly, aren't all conservative commentators constantly referred to as xenophobes, racists, etc. like I stated? What makes you think a conservative comedy show wouldn't be labeled the same.

By the way, it's not a hypothetical situation, it happends regularly.

I'd like to see an example of what kind of a conservative comedy show that there would be if they didn't just simply make fun of liberals all the time. As is evident, the Daily Show has no compunction againsty satirizing both sides of the aisle. That is what makes it work. If they simply went after one side, it would not have the appeal that it does.

That's why I think a 'conservative' comedy show or a 'liberal' comedy show would not work. After a time it would just simply be so much whining about the other side.

Folks who think the Daily Show is just a liberal comedy show are seriously misinformed.

For example, Bill Mahr is a liberal comedy show, and I can't take it. It comes off as condescending and he is such a self-righteous douche that I can't take more than ten minutes of it. Although, I'll admit his panel segments aren't bad... he does give equal representation to many sides of issues in those segments.

But overall he tends to take his point of view toooooo seriously, and half the time it feels like he's lecturing and wagging his finger. That kills the fun.

Stewart and Colbert do it for the sake of comedy and satire, and that makes all the difference in my opinion. I will say Stewart is not a half bad interviewer, and some of his interviews do hit on serious issues with a serious tone. Colbert on the other hand just goes over the top for fun. I've yet to see him have a serious interview with anyone, and he does get some 'movers and shakers' to appear on his show.

If anyone remembers his segment with Barney Frank where he is walking with Frank through the Capitol and tails off behind him and starts swishing along like a fag when Frank can't see.. holy smokes, that is bust a gut funny.

He asked Barney if George Bush was "A/ the best president, or B/ the greatest President of all time". When Frank refused to answer, Colbertt said "OK, I'll put you down for just "best president". Apparently after the interview, Frank was quite annoyed with Colbert for real.

~Bang

[BeerMuscles]

:doh: Seriously?

That is just ridiculous, and I'm being kind. Politicians don't respond to comedians (only exception I can think of is Palin. Hmmm).

Dems don't respond to Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, etc. why in the eff would they respond like that to a conservative Daily Show?

Who said anything about politicians responding to anything. I've seen many a dem response to the aforementioned. You're loony.

[jnhay]

I think you might be on to something, but the real reason is...if conservatives clowned on prominent Libs and their policies they would be labeled xenophobes, racists, etc. Oh wait, this is already happening.

Take the governer of New York for example. He is on his way out and is kciking and screaming racism. If there was a conservative Daily Show to bash him daily, he would scream "See, I told you so! It's a conservative white male conspiracy to keep a blind black man out of office, nevermind the fact that I'm a piece of ****!".

First off, not funny. Second, you remind me of that black guy from Harvard situation. I could swear that Stewart made fun of Obama for that one.

[Dan T.]

I will say Stewart is not a half bad interviewer, and some of his interviews do hit on serious issues with a serious tone. Colbert on the other hand just goes over the top for fun. I've yet to see him have a serious interview with anyone, and he does get some 'movers and shakers' to appear on his show.

~Bang

I see that as Colbert's big weakness. His interviews are a waste of time. He's so intent on getting his shtick in that the interviewee barely gets a chance to communicate. He's brilliant in other areas of the show, but the interviews are just bad. Stewart is much more adept at letting the guest get his or her message in.

[BeerMuscles]

I'd like to see what kind of an example of what kind of a conservative comedy show that there would be if they didn't just simply make fun of liberals all the time. As is evident, the Daily Show has no compunction againsty satirizing both sides of the aisle. That is what makes it work. If they simply went after one side, it would not have the appeal that it does.

That's why I think a 'conservative' comedy show or a 'liberal' comedy show would not work. After a time it would just simply be so much whining about the other side.

Folks who think the Daily Show is just a liberal comedy show are seriously misinformed.

For example, Bill Mahr is a liberal comedy show, and I can't take it. It comes off as condescending and he is such a self-righteous douche that I can't take more than ten minutes of it. Although, I'll admit his panel segments aren't bad... he does give equal representation to many sides of issues in those segments.

But overall he tends to take his point of view toooooo seriously, and half the time it feels like he's lecturing and wagging his finger. That kills the fun.

Stewart and Colbert do it for the sake of comedy and satire, and that makes all the difference in my opinion. I will say Stewart is not a half bad interviewer, and some of his interviews do hit on serious issues with a serious tone. Colbert on the other hand just goes over the top for fun. I've yet to see him have a serious interview with anyone, and he does get some 'movers and shakers' to appear on his show.

If anyone remembers his segment with Barney Frank where he is walking with Frank through the Capitol and tails off behind him and starts swishing along like a fag when Frank can't see.. holy smokes, that is bust a gut funny.

~Bang

I agree; however, with a caveat. The daily show just doesn't hammer on liberals the same. Sure, they'll hammer on the unpopular ones (Frank), the ones the Dems should be distancing themselves from anyway.

Part of the problem there are no moderate repubs that are prominent in the 'biz'. You only have the Hannity's and Rush's of the world. It's sad actually.

This is from a conservative that hasn't identified with either party since 2000. BTW, I love that liberal **** Stephen Colbert! He is 10X funnier that Jon Stewart. Even the intro makes me laugh. When I think about the intro I laugh!

[Dan T.]

BTW, liberal SNL skewers Patterson unmercifully.

[BeerMuscles]

BTW, liberal SNL skewers Patterson unmercifully.

They must be desperate for material. Making fun a a blind man is just plain wrong:silly:.

[Bang]

:doh: Seriously?

That is just ridiculous, and I'm being kind. Politicians don't respond to comedians (only exception I can think of is Palin. Hmmm).

Dems don't respond to Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, etc. why in the eff would they respond like that to a conservative Daily Show?

I disagree. The Daily Show and Colbert have shown that the audience they connect to is the audience many politicians want to reach.

It's funny, but when you watch that hour on Comedy Central, the majority of the commercials are political commercialsd, both sides of the argument.

For example, it's not unusual to see clean coal ads & green energy ads side by side on these shows. Conversely, if you change the channel to other popular network 'current events programming' you don't see the abundance of these ads crammed in such a short time as you do there. (or you see one side's ads and not the other)

Makes you think when you realize the point of these ads is to sway opinion and that they use that hour on that network so heavily.

Big time politicians, cabinet members, policy makers, ambassadors,, they are using these shows to display that they can let their hair down and have some fun. Newt Gingrich is on the Daily Show all the time. (just the other day in fact.)

They go on Colbert, even though they know he's just going to clown on whatever they're saying, and they are the punchline more often than not.

~Bang

[Enter Apotheosis]

Secondly, aren't all conservative commentators constantly referred to as xenophobes, racists, etc. like I stated? What makes you think a conservative comedy show wouldn't be labeled the same.

Not all conservative commentators, not even most. It's the loudest ones who draw the most attention to themselves by intentionally taking controversial stances who draw those kinds of labels.

[Bliz]

I disagree. The Daily Show and Colbert have shown that the audience they connect to is the audience many politicians want to reach.

It's funny, but when you watch that hour on Comedy Central, the majority of the commercials are political commercialsd, both sides of the argument.

For example, it's not unusual to see clean coal ads & green energy ads side by side on these shows. Conversely, if you change the channel to other popular network 'current events programming' you don't see the abundance of these ads crammed in such a short time as you do there. (or you see one side's ads and not the other)

Makes you think when you realize the point of these ads is to sway opinion and that they use that hour on that network so heavily.

Big time politicians, cabinet members, policy makers, ambassadors,, they are using these shows to display that they can let their hair down and have some fun. Newt Gingrich is on the Daily Show all the time. (just the other day in fact.)

They go on Colbert, even though they know he's just going to clown on whatever they're saying, and they are the punchline more often than not.

~Bang

When I was talking about politicians responding, I meant in a public forum outside the show (i.e., blaming their woes and misfortunes on being made fun of on the Daily Show, as in Beer's hypothetical). I absolutely agree with what you're saying there.

I think a lot of people remarked that if Dole had gone on the Daily Show frequently before he ran, or while he was running, he could have killed the wooden Al Gore-like caricature that was built up around him, and he might have performed better in the election. Daily Show did a lot for McCain as well.

[desioreo87]

I see that as Colbert's big weakness. His interviews are a waste of time. He's so intent on getting his shtick in that the interviewee barely gets a chance to communicate. He's brilliant in other areas of the show, but the interviews are just bad. Stewart is much more adept at letting the guest get his or her message in.

Seriously. Colbert's show is funnier for the first two segments but when its gets to the interview I switch off completely. His interviews suck and he rarely gives the other person a chance to speak so its just a waste of time.

Stewart is one of the best interviewers on television. He cuts right to it and asks real questions to important guests. I love his interview segment.

i think my favorite moment of the daily show. Absolutely kills fox and friends here: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-december-8-2009/gretchen-carlson-dumbs-down

[Bang]

I really don't think Colbert tries to be an interviewer. He's just out there for fun.

~Bang

[Burgold]

See, some peoples brains can do something called extropolate, which is probably too big a word for you so I'll give you the definition. Extrapolate in a nutshell is to take what is known and make a conjecture.

Doesn't this post belong in the thread about liberals being way too condescending?

[Burgold]

When I was talking about politicians responding, I meant in a public forum outside the show (i.e., blaming their woes and misfortunes on being made fun of on the Daily Show, as in Beer's hypothetical). I absolutely agree with what you're saying there.

I think a lot of people remarked that if Dole had gone on the Daily Show frequently before he ran, or while he was running, he could have killed the wooden Al Gore-like caricature that was built up around him, and he might have performed better in the election. Daily Show did a lot for McCain as well.

I think Hillary killed herself in the primary by whining about being made fun of while Obama got a free ride. I think that there is something about being able to be the butt of a joke and laugh that we all respond well too.

For what it's worth, G W Bush took it with amazing grace and composure and if I recall correctly so did Bill Clinton. In a weird way, being roasted is the bigger honor. It means that you are worth being targeted and I think some politicians understand that and take it as a point of pride.

[Midnight Judges]

Well snizzity snaps in my face!

Dude.

[Burgold]

I think the other thing to consider is great comedy often starts with the ability to self-criticize and make fun of yourself first. I think of the great borsht belt comics and many comics who first make themselves fodder which then gives them the right to go after others. You don't want to be mean. You want everyone laughing with you even the folks who disagree with you. You also want people to understand that even your most brutal observations are ones that are leading towards something not just being destructive.

I don't see a lot of public self-reflection and criticism from Conservatives about Conservatives. I remember an argument going on for years about how George Bush should never admit he's wrong because doing so would be a sign of weakness and undermine the U.S. and strengthen all her enemies.

Before you laugh at others, you need to learn to laugh at yourself.

[desioreo87]

I really don't think Colbert tries to be an interviewer. He's just out there for fun.

~Bang

i know. That is why its kinda stupid to have that segment. Colbert could be a good interviewer if he tried, instead he tries to make every statement made by the guest into some backwards joke. Its funny half the time, the other half i just wish he would ask better questions.