Why isn't there a right wing answer to the daily show or colbert show?

[alexey]

And you have to be able to afford a car to listen.

Or maybe listening to talk radio at work is more difficult if you're working with your brains vs your hands.

[Burgold]

There are a lot more libs on unemployment right now, then there are repubs.

Curious statement. Do you have a link for it?

[McD5]

Or maybe listening to talk radio at work is more difficult if you're working with your brains vs your hands.

That would tend to be a factor that would add even more conservative listeners, not less.

If people vote their wallets......the blue collar individual will be more likely to be liberal.

The white-collar more likely to be conservative.

A lot of the Obama supporters were the young crowd. Or first time voters.

Just due to age of college students, they are less likely to have stable jobs, and cars, and any interest in talk radio than older people would have.

[Enzo]

Conservative can't be funny because they are hypocrites

They raise the national debt everytime they are in control & then complain & whine about that debt everytime a democrate is elected president. Hey!!! Teabaggers if you care about the national debt then where were you when Bush & a republican control congress took it from a surplus of over 200 billion to 1.2 trillion.

They claim they hate big government. Yet when Bush was in office the government grew by 3x.

When they are in controll they never solve anything. But as soon as democrates are in control & try & do something they claim they have a better solution.

They will disagree with themselves just so they can disagree with President Obama.

They are pro war, pro death penalty, pro lifers

Actually they would be pretty funny if they didn't screw things up everytime they got control.

[alexey]

That would tend to be a factor that would add even more conservative listeners, not less.

That was my point as well. This, in my view, partially accounts for the difference in popularity between right-wing and left-wing talk radio.

If people vote their wallets......the blue collar individual will be more likely to be liberal.

The white-collar more likely to be conservative.

Simply not true. All collar wallets are interested in proper government regulation and oversight, focus on competent running of the government, making decisions based on science and information, addressing problems early, etc.

[McD5]

That was my point as well. This, in my view, partially accounts for the difference in popularity between right-wing and left-wing talk radio.

Simply not true. All collar wallets are interested in proper government regulation and oversight, focus on competent running of the government, making decisions based on science and information, addressing problems early, etc.

And they all have self-interests.

If you are poor, you are likely to favor big government and handouts. Democrat.

If you are successful, and make over 250k a year, you are going to favor smaller government, and fewer taxes. Republican.

[McD5]

Enzo, what it the thought process behind being for abortion, but against the death penalty?

[alexey]

And they all have self-interests.

If you are poor, you are likely to favor big government and handouts. Democrat.

If you are successful, and make over 250k a year, you are going to favor smaller government, and fewer taxes. Republican.

What about the middle class?

Also, can you please expand on what you mean by "big government" and "small government"?

Where do I fall if I favor, above all, a competent government? If I think that government regulation is needed, but it should not be overly burdensome? If I think that government has a role to play in consumer and environmental protection? If I think that government should invest into things like the infrastructure in order to facilitate economic development? If I don't think that lower taxes will necessarily pay for themselves with new economic growth? If I support incentivising future drivers of economic progress, such as emerging energy technologies? If I support government breaking up of monopolies? If I think that it is important for hard working people to have opportunities for upward economic mobility? If I don't think that growing income disparity is a healthy economic indicator?

[Enter Apotheosis]

This is basically it. Demographics and ratings drive all TV. Democrats generally have a younger audience, does anyone actually know a soul over 21 who watches either Stewart or Colbert on a regular basis?

I know others in this thread have addressed it but I still find this post somewhat funny. I know a lot of people who watch the show that are around my age but few seem to watch it on a regular basis. The people that I do know who watch it on a regular basis are typically older than you are.

[greenspandan]

Enzo, what it the thought process behind being for abortion, but against the death penalty?

a) killing is wrong, and an embryo is not a human life.

pretty simple.

[greenspandan]

This is basically it. Demographics and ratings drive all TV. Democrats generally have a younger audience, does anyone actually know a soul over 21 who watches either Stewart or Colbert on a regular basis?

this is one of the sillier statements i've seen on here. my wife and i are 34 and both watch regularly, as do many if not most of our friends.

[McD5]

What about the middle class?

Where do I fall if I favor, above all, a competent government?

You are SOL in this country.

[McD5]

a) killing is wrong, and an embryo is not a human life.

pretty simple.

Right.

So terminate life of innocents, but protect the lives of murderers.

Good reasoning.

[DCsportsfan53]

And you have to be able to afford a car to listen.

There are a lot more libs on unemployment right now, then there are repubs.

You're doing a swell job of proving a point. Of course, when being a Republican is a status symbol, a lifestyle, a brotherhood and a method of thinking that carries with it a familial loyalty then you won't be able to take off the blinders and watch the shows for what they are. No one made you take it to that level, sorry for your bad choice.

[Bang]

Interesting how this thread has been sidetracked.

:jerk:

~Bang

[greenspandan]

Right.

So terminate life of innocents, but protect the lives of murderers.

Good reasoning.

it's obviously not terminating the life of innocents if a person believes point b from my post, though. you asked what the thought process was and that is it. it is logically consistent given certain beliefs. (beliefs that are obviously not held by everyone)

(also i am loathe to speak for all people who hold the pro-choice / anti death penalty stance, my points were merely one simple and obvious justification)

i apologize for the sidetrack, i truly don't want to get into another abortion debate

[Enter Apotheosis]

it's obviously not terminating the life of innocents if a person believes point b from my post, though. you asked what the thought process was and that is it. it is logically consistent given certain beliefs. (beliefs that are obviously not held by everyone)

(also i am loathe to speak for all people who hold the pro-choice / anti death penalty stance, my points were merely one simple and obvious justification)

i apologize for the sidetrack, i truly don't want to get into another abortion debate

Just ignore him. McD5 has never particularly struck me as the type of person who is even capable of reconciling with beliefs that are not his own.

[greenspandan]

back on topic: why is there no conservative analogue to stewart/colbert? i do think it's an interesting question.

some vague ideas that i'm not very sure about:

is it because most comedy writers are mostly liberal, or at least almost never dogmatically conservative? beyond dennis miller, can't really think of any overtly conservative comics who could pull off political humor. jeff foxworthy and his clan are probably conservatives, but their stuff isn't particularly political (as far as i know).

is it because the conservative slant on a current event just isn't very funny? ardent patriotism, for example, doesn't really lend itself to humor ... well, i mean, you can safely mock ardent patriotism itself (like colbert), but how do you make a good joke from a patriotic standpoint? it's tough to mock other nationalities without looking smug or ugly yourself. mocking America is easier for an American because it's self-deprecating in a way, whereas making fun of other nations can, if not handled deftly, sound like bullying or racism.

personally, i think humor tends to highlight the hidden but obvious truths, and conservatives are an easy target these days because of the tortured circular logic and acrobatic mental justifications they employ, but i'm sure that's just the liberal in me talking.

[Koolblue13]

First, this thread delivers. OLS

Second, O' Rielly is pretty funny. At least it makes me laugh when I'm angry.

[Bliz]

What if there is actually something about Dems that makes them less likely to be interested in talk radio altogether? This is America. This is capitalism. I find it hard to believe that an unexploited liberal talk radio market has been sitting out there for years simply waiting for the right person to come along.

You can always say that things would be different if only there were personalities who built up their audiences. Your basic claim is irrefutable, but I don't think it's correct.

I just don't see why your political affiliation would make you innately favor or disfavor certain media. Doesn't make sense to me. How about this instead: It's all about built-up expectations, and maintaining the status quo.

The reason there isn't a conservative Daily Show is because there's already a Daily Show, and a conservative version will be instantly compared. It doesn't have time to come into its own and the expectations are tremendous. If it doesn't hit the ground running (like Fox's show didn't) it gets panned and dropped before it has a chance to hit its stride. TV execs saw that Fox's show was something of a laughingstock, and they don't want to repeat the same mistake.

Right now, Dems and Pubs are both perfectly happy with their respective media. Dems don't want their own talk-radio blowhards that remind them of the people they hate. Pubs have talk radio and Fox "News" commentators available basically 24/7, and they don't need some untalented hack of a comedian telling self-deprecating jokes about Republicans, when they could listen to their current preferred talking heads instead.

[Rocky21]

There are a lot more libs on unemployment right now, then there are repubs.

Now Navy Dave you know you are only allowed one account on ES.

[sly]

Conservative can't be funny because they are hypocrites

That's why everyone should vote for Ron Paul. A conservative who actually sticks to *conservative* values and follows the Constitution!

[Rocky21]

That's why everyone should vote for Ron Paul. A conservative who actually sticks to *conservative* values and follows the Constitution!

I don't live in his congressional district in Texas.

[nonniey]

because republicans dont have a sense of humor

Hah, I think traditionally you'll find most comics, even politically liberal comics, say that you got that backwards. Republicans and Democrats tend to laugh at comics making fun of Republicans/Conservatives. Dems get mad when you make fun of them (of course the pubs still laugh).

[BeerMuscles]

The reason there isn't a conservative Daily Show is because there's already a Daily Show, and a conservative version will be instantly compared.

I think you might be on to something, but the real reason is...if conservatives clowned on prominent Libs and their policies they would be labeled xenophobes, racists, etc. Oh wait, this is already happening.

Take the governer of New York for example. He is on his way out and is kciking and screaming racism. If there was a conservative Daily Show to bash him daily, he would scream "See, I told you so! It's a conservative white male conspiracy to keep a blind black man out of office, nevermind the fact that I'm a piece of ****!".