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Why isn't there a right wing answer to the daily show or colbert show?

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McD5

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It's painfully obvious you don't get that, since you call their people correspondents. They're not. They're comedians.

Big big big big HUGE difference.

The Daily Show does not take a side, no matter how much some want to believe it does.

~Bang

I am aware that correspondents are comedians, and that it isn't a news program.

You think that is so hard to pick up? Like satire is just so sophisticated, many don't understand it?:ols:

They hammer republicans.

They use kid gloves on dems.

They lean incredibly to the left. Jon is a huge liberal. If you can't see that, you are blind.

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I am aware that correspondents are comedians, and that it isn't a news program.

You think that is so hard to pick up? Like satire is just so sophisticated, many don't understand it?:ols:

They hammer republicans.

They use kid gloves on dems.

They lean incredibly to the left. Jon is a huge liberal. If you can't see that, you are blind.

You obviously don't watch the show very much.

~Bang

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You obviously don't watch the show very much.

~Bang

I have.....and what I said above is spot on.

And you are intelligent. I find it very hard to believe that you question Jon being a liberal. He nearly cried on the air when Kerry lost. He raises money for libs. He is a huge lib.

Bush? Let's do acts that make him look incredibly stupid. Not hard to do really....he provided a lot of material.

Obama? Let's try to do lighter pieces....like on how boring his VP is.

But don't make Obama look stupid.

Big difference there.

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The Daily Show does not take a side, no matter how much some want to believe it does.

~Bang

Back in 2008 you could really tell that this whole "****tail drinking not real americans" stuff really got to Jon Stewart.

For example, here he is "attacking" Sarah Palin (starting around 2:20):

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-october-20-2008/pfriend-or-pfoe-

You see, for some people "not taking sides" includes looking at Sarah Palin with bewilderment and asking WTF is she doing as a VP candidate. For others it means making sure you treat her rhetoric as a valid perspective. Taking issue with millions of Americans being called not real Americans = liberal bias.

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These proofs have been displayed in numerous Daily Show threads.

Some simply don't want to see it. Or, closer to the truth, they won't watch it, but will pretend to know what it's all about. And because they 'know what it's all about' they feel justified in complaining about something they clearly haven't got a clue about.

It's like pointing out the sky is blue, and they keep screaming that it's yellow without actually going to the window to check.

~Bang

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I am aware that correspondents are comedians, and that it isn't a news program.

You think that is so hard to pick up? Like satire is just so sophisticated, many don't understand it?:ols:

They hammer republicans.

They use kid gloves on dems.

They lean incredibly to the left. Jon is a huge liberal. If you can't see that, you are blind.

You obviously don't watch the show very much.

~Bang

You DEFINITELY don't watch it much. Now, I certainly lean liberal on many things, particularly social issues. More and more everyday I think of myself more as a Libertarian than anything else politically. What I do hate is ****ing slimeball politicians and our ridiculous PC, have to blame somebody culture. Imo, these two shows do an EXCELLENT job of attacking stupid on both sides and I wouldn't like them if they used kid gloves on the Dems. As someone who's said here before many times how much I regret having voted for Obama (not that I would've voted for McCain, probably would've just not voted) I love that they go after him for the failures in his administration to date, and they are many. I loved watching Stewart make Al Gore look like a fool trying to talk about global warming.

Anyone who says they use kid gloves on Dems or don't distribute the satire fairly, to all who deserve it, either A) doesn't actually watch these shows or B) is so wrapped up in their party and slobbering over it that they can't objectively give an opinion because of the views held by the hosts. That's pretty much bottom line.

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I have.....and what I said above is spot on.

And you are intelligent. I find it very hard to believe that you question Jon being a liberal. He nearly cried on the air when Kerry lost. He raises money for libs. He is a huge lib.

Bush? Let's do acts that make him look incredibly stupid. Not hard to do really....he provided a lot of material.

Obama? Let's try to do lighter pieces....like on how boring his VP is.

But don't make Obama look stupid.

Big difference there.

I don't question Jon being a liberal. In my first post in this thread, the fact he's a democrat is in my FIRST SENTENCE. Right off the TOP. FOURTH post in the thread.

This is exactly like your entire idea about this show. You assume I don't know that because you didn't bother to read it when I wrote it on the first page. Just as assume to know what they do on this show when you clearly, and i mean CLEARLY don't watch it. If you did, you'd know how wrong you are about what you've said.

And to claim you watch that show while saying the things you do makes me wonder if you simply don't get it, or you're flat out lying.

So which is it? Ignorance or lies?

~Bang

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I have.....and what I said above is spot on.

And you are intelligent. I find it very hard to believe that you question Jon being a liberal. He nearly cried on the air when Kerry lost. He raises money for libs. He is a huge lib.

Bush? Let's do acts that make him look incredibly stupid. Not hard to do really....he provided a lot of material.

Obama? Let's try to do lighter pieces....like on how boring his VP is.

But don't make Obama look stupid.

Big difference there.

I just watched a video where Colbert made fun of Obama for wanting to focus on Afghanistan.

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Dennis Miller is alright, but his delivery tends to get old after a while. I get a lot of his references, and they're pretty funny, there's just something in his delivery that doesn't keep my attention very long.

Of the political comedians, I much prefer the Daily Show and Colbert because they spread it around, and there's an element of lunacy that is missing from a lot of the others. They don't take themselves seriously, and they're not afraid to be completely absurd.

Like last night.. Asif Mondvi standing outside screaming Global Warming doesn't exist because it's cold,, Samantha Bee reporting from Australia that he's full of it, because where she is it's hot, and finally Jason Jones hysterically afraid because "just two hours ago the sun was out, and now it's gone, and everything is dark!"

I was rolling pretty hard on that.

Bill Mahr makes me want to smack him, he's just so damned condescending.

~Bang

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All I remember of that guy is how incredibly awful he was on MNF. My Lord he was terrible. In hindsight, it almost feels like Tony K did a good job just by comparison's sake and he was pretty damn bad himself.

Miller on MNF was an epic fail. Tony and his story lines got really old too.

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How many pieces are scathing and filled with hatred?:silly: He basically inferred that Obama was stupid to put more troops in a place that couldn't be controlled.

Don't bother. He won't watch it because he 'already knows' what it's going to say.

But the fact is he won't watch it because then he might realize he's been wrong.

~Bang

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I have.....and what I said above is spot on.

And you are intelligent. I find it very hard to believe that you question Jon being a liberal. He nearly cried on the air when Kerry lost. He raises money for libs. He is a huge lib.

Bush? Let's do acts that make him look incredibly stupid. Not hard to do really....he provided a lot of material.

Obama? Let's try to do lighter pieces....like on how boring his VP is.

But don't make Obama look stupid.

Big difference there.

Yes... the big difference is that Obama doesn't have a "stupid" persona.

In other shocking news, the huge global conspiracy portrayed Clinton as a horn-dog, while NEVER hammering W, or HW or even Leiberman that way. The media bias hurts my (and slick willy's) panties :(

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It's all about the talent.

You can't just "decide" that you're going to have a conservative comedy show. First, you have to have a host who wants to do it, and who is dedicated enough and talented enough to pull it off. Stewart struggled for the first year or so after replacing Kilborn, trying to find his comfort level.

Fox's laughable (in a bad way) attempt to put up a competing show was destined to fail and its not hard to see why. They didn't have the right people there, and they didn't spend enough for good writers.

Put Glenn Beck on a channel that's invested in making the show work, give him an expensive team of writers like the Daily Show has, and he could make it work.

Same deal with radio for the Dems. Why does Air America fail? Is it because Dems aren't firebrands? No. It's because the personalities that they had for it simply were not on the level of a Rush or a Hannity, who built up their audiences over time and found their groove. You can't just throw any old liberal tv/movie personality in a chair, have them rant, and expect it to be popular.

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Same deal with radio for the Dems. Why does Air America fail? Is it because Dems aren't firebrands? No. It's because the personalities that they had for it simply were not on the level of a Rush or a Hannity, who built up their audiences over time and found their groove. You can't just throw any old liberal tv/movie personality in a chair, have them rant, and expect it to be popular.

What if there is actually something about Dems that makes them less likely to be interested in talk radio altogether? This is America. This is capitalism. I find it hard to believe that an unexploited liberal talk radio market has been sitting out there for years simply waiting for the right person to come along.

You can always say that things would be different if only there were personalities who built up their audiences. Your basic claim is irrefutable, but I don't think it's correct.

How about this. Conservatism is about keeping things as they are, so it is natural for conservatives to focus on resisting progress and people who are pushing it. People who are interested in progress, on the other hand, may not find it as appealing to focus on fighting conservatives.

Also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_radio#Politically_oriented_talk_radio

Pew researchers found in 2004 that 17% of the public regularly listens to talk radio. This audience is mostly male, middle-aged and conservative. Among those who regularly listen to talk radio, 41% are Republican and 28% are Democrats. Furthermore, 45% describe themselves as conservatives, compared with 18% who say they are liberal.

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What if there is actually something about Dems that makes them less likely to be interested in talk radio altogether? This is America. This is capitalism. I find it hard to believe that an unexploited liberal talk radio market has been sitting out there for years simply waiting for the right person to come along.

You can always say that things would be different if only there were personalities who built up their audiences. Your basic claim is irrefutable, but I don't think it's correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_radio#Politically_oriented_talk_radio

And you have to be able to afford a car to listen.:silly:

There are a lot more libs on unemployment right now, then there are repubs.

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