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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/01/AR2010020103674.html?hpid=topnews

Virginia Senate bills say no to requiring health insurance

By Rosalind S. Helderman

Washington Post Staff Writer

Tuesday, February 2, 2010; A01

RICHMOND -- Virginia's Democratic-controlled state Senate passed measures Monday that would make it illegal to require individuals to purchase health insurance, a direct challenge to the party's efforts in Washington to reform health care.

The bills, a top priority of Virginia's "tea party" movement, were approved 23 to 17 as five Democrats who represent swing areas of the state joined all 18 Republicans in the chamber in backing the legislation.

The votes came less than a week after President Obama implored Democrats in Washington not to abandon their health-care efforts, urging them in his State of the Union address not to "run for the hills" on the issue.

But the action in Virginia, a state that backed Obama in 2008, could indicate that the president is failing to reassure members of his own party that current reform efforts remain worthwhile. The votes also suggest that Democrats on the state level fear that supporting health-care reform could be politically damaging, and their action could put pressure on members of the state's congressional delegation who have been behind the effort.

"It doesn't make it easier," said Rep. Gerald E. Connolly, who voted for health-care legislation and is one of several Virginia Democrats facing a strong challenge this year.

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So virginia requires car insurance.

They allow requirements for business liability insurance.

require Home insurance...

But health insurance... That's going to far?

No they dont.

There is no VA law requiring you to buy any of those policies.

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So virginia requires car insurance.

They allow requirements for business liability insurance.

require Home insurance...

But health insurance... That's going to far?

Health insurance is different.

Considering how the majority of the world provides free healthcare for its citizens, yet what is perhaps the richest nation in the world does not do so, is a crime.

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If you want to drive a car legally in VA, don't you need car insurance?

Nope. You can opt out by paying a 1 time 500 dollar Uninsured motorist fee, or you can bond yourself, or you can provide proof of financial responsibility to the court and they can waive it.

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Nope. You can opt out by paying a 1 time 500 dollar Uninsured motorist fee, or you can bond yourself, or you can provide proof of financial responsibility to the court and they can waive it.

That's scary tho, that it's that so likely for you to get hit by a motorist who has no auto insurance.

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This bill is larely symbolic as state laws are preempted by federal laws.

Not necessarily,it goes to the constitutionality of the law.

Simply sets up yet another avenue to attempt to overturn it if passed.

As if there weren't enough:silly:

Besides symbolism and will of the people are critical

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If there is no requirement proposed how can there be a fine/penalty?

There is neither.

There is a (proposed) tax on uninsured people.

The difference between that and an "uninsured motor vehicle fee" is?

FWIW, yeah, I'm nit-picking semantics and political labels. Just like Kilmer is. That's my point.

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It can't.

It's a purely meaningless publicity stunt. Ranks right up there with the "let's threaten to secede" votes.

No it's this kind of thing happens all the time. It's all about who has the jurisdiction. Health Insurance policy has been left to the individual states. It's not at all clear that the federal government has the authority to mandate it.

The Federal government will make the case it has regulated health insurance since 1947 with an anti trust exceptions. States will try to argue that in mandating health insurance the fed has oversteped it's jourisdiction..

The Supreme court will sort it out. Happenns all the time, sometimes the impass lasts for decades.

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