wskin44 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 If you drive a Toyota of any model or year you should be aware that the gas pedal problem may happen to you at any time. Here is the current list of recalled vehicles: Toyota's accelerator pedal recall and suspension of sales affects the following Toyota Division vehicles: Certain 2009-10 RAV4s Certain 2009-10 Corollas 2009-10 Matrix 2005-10 Avalon Certain 2007-10 Camrys Certain 2010 Highlanders 2007-10 Tundra 2008-10 Sequoia The reality is that news reports are saying that the National Highway Safety Transportation Board (NHSTB) has been battling Toyota for 5 years regarding reports of unwanted acceleration. Riddle me this Batman: If NHSTB has been on their case for 5 years then why are none of the recalled vehicles 5 years old or older??? The reason that I am prompted to post is because two weeks ago my 2003 Toyota 4Runner accelerated on its own. Note that the 4Runner is not on the list of recalled vehicles. I went to the NHSTB website to register a complaint. Then I researched the Toyota 4Runner complaints and below I have listed 4Runner complaints similar to mine. The 2003, '04, '05, '06, '07, and '08 4Runners are all the same vehicle with few changes. My complaint is listed first. Just try to tell me that Toyota and the NHSTB are doing thier job. If you own a Toyota you should visit the NHSTB website and read all of the complaints against your vehicle. It may open your eyes. :rubeyes: Make : TOYOTA Model : 4RUNNER Year : 2003 Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION Crash : No Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0 ODI ID Number : 10301853 Number of Deaths: 0 Date of Failure: January 16, 2010 VIN : Not Available Component: UNKNOWN OR OTHER Summary: 2003 TOYOTA 4RUNNER V6 SPORT. ON SATURDAY I FLOORED THE GAS PEDDLE AND WHEN I LET UP THE VEHICLE CONTINUED TO ACCELERATE. I PUMPED THE BRAKES BUT ACCELERATION CONTINUED. I APPLIED STRONG CONTINUOUS FORCE TO THE BRAKES AND AFTER A FEW SECONDS THE ACCELERATION DISENGAGED. YESTERDAY'S ANNOUNCEMENT OF OTHER NON-4RUNNER TOYOTA MODELS BEING RECALLED FOR EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM HAS ME VERY CONCERNED. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE 4RUNNER HAS THE SAME ISSUE AND SHOULD ALSO BE RECALLED? Make : TOYOTA Model : 4 RUNNER Year : 2003 Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. Crash : No Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0 ODI ID Number : 10031644 Number of Deaths: 0 Date of Failure: July 30, 2003 VIN : JTEBT17R630... Component: VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL Summary: WHILE TRAVELING ON THE HIGHWAY WITHOUT PRIOR WARNING. THE VEHICLE WILL SUDDENLY ACCELERATED. PLEASE FILL IN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION DEALER IS AWARE OF THE PROBLEM. Make : TOYOTA Model : 4 RUNNER Year : 2004 Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. Crash : Yes Fire : No Number of Injuries: 1 ODI ID Number : 10093522 Number of Deaths: 0 Date of Failure: November 9, 2003 VIN : Not Available Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:ANTILOCK Summary: WHEN COMING TO A STOP & BRAKING, CAR ACCELERATED FORWARD. THIS CAUSED ME TO HAVE AN ACCIDENT WITH MUCH DAMAGE TO THE FRONT OF MY CAR. THIS CAUSED ME TO HIT THE BUILDING IN FRONT OF ME WITH EXTENSIVE DAMAGE TO THE BUILDING. IT WAS AMAZING PART OF THE BUILDING DID NOT FALL DOWN ON THE TOP OF MY CAR WHICH WOULD HAVE CAUSED ME SERIOUS INJURY.*AK Make : TOYOTA Model : 4RUNNER Year : 2004 Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION Crash : No Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0 ODI ID Number : 10299500 Number of Deaths: 0 Date of Failure: July 12, 2007 VIN : Not Available Component: VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL Summary: TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2004 TOYOTA 4 RUNNER. WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 15 MPH ON NORMAL ROAD CONDITIONS; PROCEEDING TO A STOP SIGNAL PRESSURE WAS APPLIED TO THE BRAKE PEDAL, FOLLOWED BY AN UNINTENDED AND FORCEFUL ACCELERATION. THE DRIVER WAS ABLE TO COME TO A COMPLETE STOP. THE FAILURE OCCURRED INTERMITTENTLY. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER FOR INSPECTION. THE TECHNICIAN WAS UNABLE TO DUPLICATE THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 50,000. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 111,000. THE VIN WAS UNAVAILABLE. 1 Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION Crash : No Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0 ODI ID Number : 10193125 Number of Deaths: 0 Date of Failure: January 1, 2004 VIN : JTEBU14R440... Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM Summary: THERE IS A DELAY AND THEN A SUDDEN AND ABRUPT ACCELERATION IN THE VEHICLE A 2004 TOYOTA SUV, VIRTUALLY EVERY TIME DURING SLOW DOWNS IN TRAFFIC AND WHEN MAKING TURNS. THIS CAUSES THE VEHICLE TO JERK AND HAS CAUSED A HOT BEVERAGE TO SPILL ON THE DRIVER, NEARLY CONTRIBUTED TO AN ACCIDENT WHEN THE VEHICLE FAILED TO ACCELERATE WHILE CHANGING LANES, AND WITH PASSENGERS IN THE VEHICLE AT THE TIME CAUSED THE VEHICLE TO SPIN OUT WHILE MAKING A TURN ON A WET ROAD SURFACE - HAD THERE BEEN ANOTHER VEHICLE AT THE INTERSECTION AT THE TIME A CERTAIN COLLISION WOULD HAVE OCCURRED. THE RESULT IS THAT I MUST CONSTANTLY NEGOTIATE THE DEGREE OF PRESSURE ON THE ACCELERATOR IN STOP AND GO TRAFFIC AND WHEN MAKING TURNS. DESPITE ALTERING MY DRIVING HABITS I AM NOT ALWAYS ABLE TO PREVENT THE VEHICLE FROM JERKING AND THE SUDDEN ACCELERATION. THIS PROBLEM IS EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING AND HAS BEEN A DETERRENT FROM LETTING OTHERS DRIVE THE VEHICLE AND BECAUSE OF SAFETY CONCERNS WILL BE A PROHIBITIVE FACTOR IN PERMITTING MY DAUGHTER TO DRIVE THIS VEHICLE WHEN SHE REACHES DRIVING AGE. ULTIMATELY THE VEHICLE WAS CHECKED BY THE DEALER WHERE IT WAS PURCHASED AND THERE DOCUMENTED RESPONSE IS AS FOLLOWS: CONDITION IS NOT ABNORMAL FOR THIS MODEL VEHICLE. BELIEVE DELAY AND HARSHNESS UPON ACCELERATION ATTRIBUTABLE TO DRIVE LINE LASH AND ENGINE LAG DUE TO ELECTRONIC THROTTLE CONTROL. COMMENTS AS A RESULT OF FURTHER PHONE CONVERSATIONS WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE AT THE DEALER WERE ABOUT DESIGN FLAW, WARRANTY NOT APPLICABLE IN THIS SITUATION, NO REPAIR .CURRENTLY AVAILABLE, COULD NOT CORRECT THE PROBLEM - EVEN IF I WERE TO PAY, AWARE OF THE PROBLEM AND CONCERNS BY OTHER DRIVERS, WOULD NOT PROVIDE ANY FURTHER DOCUMENTATION OR ASSISTANCE. *AK Make : TOYOTA Model : 4RUNNER Year : 2005 Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION Crash : Yes Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0 ODI ID Number : 10293723 Number of Deaths: 0 Date of Failure: April 18, 2009 VIN : JTEZU14R958... Component: VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL Summary: TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2005 TOYOTA 4 RUNNER. SHE STATED THAT WHILE MAKING A LEFT TURN INTO A PARKING SPACE, THE VEHICLE SUDDENLY ACCELERATED, LEAPED FORWARD AND CRASHED INTO A BRICK WALL. THE TOYOTA DEALER WAS UNABLE TO DUPLICATE THE FAILURE. TWO IDENTICAL FAILURE OCCURRED PREVIOUSLY; HOWEVER,THEY DIDN'T RESULT IN A CRASH. NO REPAIRS HAD BEEN MADE TO CORRECT THE FAILURE. THE CURRENT AND FAILURE MILEAGES WERE UNDER 35,000. UPDATED 01/07/10.*JB Make : TOYOTA Model : 4RUNNER Year : 2005 Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION Crash : No Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0 ODI ID Number : 10293500 Number of Deaths: 0 Date of Failure: February 15, 2007 VIN : JTEBT17R750... Component: VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL:ACCELERATOR PEDAL Summary: TL* THE CONTACT OWNED A 2005 TOYOTA 4RUNNER. WHEN ATTEMPTING TO SHIFT LANES AT 30 MPH, THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL BECAME STUCK. AFTER REPEATED BRAKE APPLICATION SHE WAS ABLE TO STOP THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO THE DEALERSHIP, BUT THE TECHNICIAN COULD NOT IDENTIFY THE CAUSE OF THE FAILURE. SHE WAS ABLE TO TRADE THE VEHICLE FOR ANOTHER VEHICLE AT THE DEALERSHIP. THE CURRENT AND FAILURE MILEAGES WERE APPROXIMATELY 20,000. Make : TOYOTA Model : 4RUNNER Year : 2005 Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION Crash : Yes Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0 ODI ID Number : 10188064 Number of Deaths: 0 Date of Failure: April 10, 2007 VIN : Not Available Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:ANTILOCK Summary: WHILE DRIVING DOWN THE FREEWAY TRAFFIC STARTED TO SLOW. I APPLIED PRESSURE TO THE BRAKES BUT NOTHING HAPPENED. THERE WAS A LOUD CLICKING NOISE IN THE BRAKING SYSTEM AND THE CAR SEEMED TO LURCH FORWARD. THE CAR IS NOW TOTALED. THE SAME PROBLEM OCCURRED A MONTH BEFORE AND MY WIFE HAS EXPERIENCED THE PROBLEM AS WELL. *JB Make : TOYOTA Model : 4RUNNER Year : 2006 Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION Crash : Yes Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0 ODI ID Number : 10299572 Number of Deaths: 0 Date of Failure: December 13, 2009 VIN : JTEBU14R668... Component: UNKNOWN OR OTHER Summary: I WAS COMING INTO DEWITT ARKANSAS ON HIGHWAY165 ON 12/13/09 AT ABOUT 12:30PM WITH MY CRUISE CONTROL ON AT ABOUT 60 MPH. I TAPPED THE BRAKE TO DISENGAGE THE CRUISE CONTROL AND SLOWED DOWN TO MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN INTO AN EXXON MINI MART. MY 2006 TOYOTA 4RUNNER SUDDENLY ACCELERATED AS I ATTEMPTED TO STOP NEAR THE FRONT DOOR. AS I APPLIED PRESSURE TO THE BRAKES I HEARD THE ANTI LOCK BRAKES CLICKING AND SUDDENLY THE 4RUNNER LUNGED FORWARD STRIKING A LARGE POLE THAT WAS IN FRONT OF ME. THE REAR WHEELS WERE SPINNING WILDLY AND THE BACK END WAS BOUNCING UP AND DOWN. THE 4RUNNER WAS BOUNCING TO THE SIDE AND I SLAMMED THE SHIFT LEVER INTO PARK. THE POWER TO THE BACK WHEELS STOPPED. I SAT BACK AND TOOK MY FOOT OFF THE BRAKE PEDAL, THEN I NOTICED THAT THE ENGINE WAS STILL RUNNING WIDE OPEN THROTTLE. I REACHED UP AND TURNED THE KEY OFF. I LOOKED AT THE FLOOR MAT AND IT WAS IN ITS NORMAL LOCATION WITH NO CONTACT WITH THE GAS PEDAL. THE TWO HOOKS WERE ATTACHED HOLDING THE FLOOR MAT IN PLACE. THERE WAS NO WAY IT COULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED. TWO EMPLOYEES CAME OUT AND ASKED IF I WAS OKAY. I TOLD THEM I WAS OKAY, BUT SCARED TO DEATH. I TOLD THEM I HAD HEARD ABOUT TOYOTAS HAVING A SUDDEN ACCELERATION PROBLEM, BUT I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD BE INVOLVED IN ONE. I HAD TO WALK AROUND A WHILE TO CALM DOWN. I GOT THE EMPLOYEES NAMES AND PHONE NUMBERS IN CASE I NEEDED THEM. I WENT BACK OUTSIDE AND STARTED THE 4RUNNER UP AGAIN AND IT RAN NORMAL. I DROVE IT TO MY DAD'S AND LEFT IT THERE. I CALLED THE TOYOTA DEALER THE NEXT DAY AND HAD THEM COME PICK IT UP. THE DEALER HAD A LOCAL TECHNICIAN CHECK IT OUT. THEY SAID THEY COULD FIND NOTHING WRONG AND SAID I SHOULD COME AND GET IT. I TOLD THEM THAT WAS UNACCEPTABLE. THEY HAD A REGIONAL SPECIALIZED FIELD TECHNICIAN EVALUATE IT. HE SAID THAT THERE WAS NO SAFETY HAZARD WITH MY 4RUNNER. THE DEALER WANTS ME TO COME AND GET THE VEHICLE. NOTHING HAS BEEN FIXED OR REPAIRED.*TR Make : TOYOTA Model : 4RUNNER Year : 2005 Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION Crash : No Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0 ODI ID Number : 10182811 Number of Deaths: 0 Date of Failure: February 16, 2007 VIN : JTEBT14R550... Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE Summary: V8, 4WD. IDLE RPM IS WAY TOO HIGH. WHEN A/C COMPRESSOR KICKS IN IDLE CAN BE AS HIGH AS 1500 RPM. HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL PULLING INTO GARAGE, AS THE BRAKE IS VERY DIFFICULT TO MODULATE AT THAT RPM. TWICE INTO DEALER FOR THIS AND TOLD "...IT IS NORMAL". WIFE AFRAID TO DRIVE INTO THE GARAGE AND I HAVE TO BE VERY AWARE WHEN A/C IS ON. HAVE NEVER SEEN A VEHICLE IDLE AT THIS HIGH AN RPM. DIFFICULT TO HOLD AT STOP SIGN AND WILL IDLE AWAY AT A GOOD PACE WITH NO ACCELERATOR APPLIED. *JB Make : TOYOTA Model : 4RUNNER Year : 2006 Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION Crash : No Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0 ODI ID Number : 10291376 Number of Deaths: 0 Date of Failure: May 13, 2009 VIN : JTEBU14R068... Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE Summary: HIGHWAY MERGE RAMP AT ALMOST FULL THROTTLE TWICE, ONCE PASSING ANOTHER VEHICLE ON HIGHWAY AT ALSO HIGH THROTTLE USAGE, ACCELERATOR PEDAL WAS STUCK OPEN VEHICLE CONTINUED TO ACCELERATE FELT LIKE CRUISE CONTROL WAS ENGAGED BUT WASN'T. I STEPPED ON BRAKES BUT THAT DIDN'T HELP, I THEN HIT THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL WITH MY RIGHT FOOT AND THE PEDAL WENT BACK TO NORMAL. *TR Make : TOYOTA Model : 4RUNNER Year : 2006 Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION Crash : No Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0 ODI ID Number : 10289056 Number of Deaths: 0 Date of Failure: December 1, 2006 VIN : 5TDZA23C34S... Component: POWER TRAIN Summary: SOON AFTER PURCHASING MY 2006 4RUNNER V8 4WD I WAS PULLING MY BOAT AND NOTICED WHEN I WAS COMING TO A TRAFFIC LIGHT AND BRAKING THAT THE ENGINE WAS INCREASING IN RPM AND IT BECAME VERY DIFFICULT TO STOP. HAD THE TRAFFIC IN FRONT OF ME NOT BEEN CLEAR THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN AN ACCIDENT. THIS HAPPENED SEVERAL MORE TIMES OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, OFTEN WHEN PULLING THE BOAT BUT NOT ALWAYS. I LATER REALIZED THAT THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM WAS THE PROXIMITY OF THE GAS AND BREAK PETALS. WHEN I PULL THE BOAT, AND SOMETIME OTHER TIMES, I WEAR FLIP-FLOPS WHICH ARE FAIRLY WIDE AND FLAT. THE FLIP-FLOPS ARE WIDE ENOUGH TO ACCIDENTALLY BRIDGE THE TWO PETALS WHILE DRIVING. MY 2001 4RUNNER NEVER HAD THIS PROBLEM. I HAVE NOT HAD THIS ISSUE RECUR SINCE I STOPPED WEARING FLIP-FLOPS WHEN DRIVING THE 4RUNNER. THE ONLY REASON I AM REPORTING THIS IS THAT I HAVE READ OF SUDDEN ACCELERATION ISSUES WITH TOYOTA'S AND THOUGHT THIS INFORMATION MIGHT HELP THE INVESTIGATION. THIS PROBLEM APPEARED TO BE A SUDDEN ACCELERATION ISSUE SINCE THE RPM'S WENT UP AND THE BRAKES COULD NOT STOP THE VEHICLE. I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER TOYOTA'S HAVE THE SAME PROXIMITY ISSUE BETWEEN THE BRAKE PETAL AND GAS PETAL. WE HAVE NOT SEEN THIS SAME ISSUE ON OUR 2004 SIENNA. *TR Make : TOYOTA Model : 4 RUNNER Year : 2004 Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. Crash : Yes Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0 ODI ID Number : 10082953 Number of Deaths: 0 Date of Failure: July 25, 2004 VIN : JTEBU14R240... Component: SERVICE BRAKES, AIR:ANTILOCK Summary: ON SUNDAY, JULY 25, 2004, I WAS PULLING FROM A DRIVEWAY TO A TAR ROAD AND WHEN APPLYING MY BRAKES THE VEHICLE DID NOT SLOW DOWN AND MADE A VERY LOUD TICKING NOISE IN THE REAR OF THE CAR. I ASSUMED IT WAS MY ABS SYSTEM MAKING THE NOISE. I WAS NOT GOING MORE THAN 2 MILES AN HOUR AND WAS ABLE TO JUST ACCELERATE AND GO ON MY WAY. I USED THE BRAKES IN MY VEHICLE AT LEAST 5-10 TIMES ON MY WAY HOME. I PULLED IN MY DRIVEWAY AND PARKED MY VEHICLE. APPROXIMATELY 6 HOURS LATER, MY HUSBAND GOT INTO THE VEHICLE TO MOVE IT IN THE DRIVEWAY ABOUT 10 YARDS FORWARD. I WAS IN THE HOUSE. IN THE HOUSE I HEARD THAT VERY SAME TICKING NOISE AND THEN A LOUD NOISE AND I KNEW THAT MY HUSBAND HAD CRASHED MY CAR. THE BRAKE PEDAL WENT RIGHT TO THE FLOOR AND THE CAR SMASHED THRU OUR GARAGE. I GOT INTO THE VEHICLE AND PRESSED THE BRAKE PEDAL AND IT AGAIN WENT RIGHT TO THE FLOOR. I CALLED MY TOYOTA DEALERSHIP THE NEXT MORNING AND THEY AGREED TO COME PICK IT UP. BEFORE THE CAR LEFT THE YARD MY FATHER IN -LAW CAME OVER AND WATCHED THE BRAKE PEDAL GO TO THE FLOOR. TOYOTA CAN FIND NOTHING WRONG WITH MY VEHICLE AND WANT ME TO TAKE IT BACK AND DRIVE IT. I WILL NOT DRIVE THAT VEHICLE UNLESS THEY CAN TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED. I HAVE 4 OTHER WITNESSES WHO HEARD THE TICKING NOISE IN THE CAR BEFORE IT HIT OUR GARAGE. THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG AND I NEED SOME HELP. I HAVE ASKED TOYOTAA FOR ANOTHER VEHICLE AND THEY REFUSE. MY CAR HAS 4000 MILES ON IT. I BELIEVE IT IS UNSAFE AND COULD POSE DANGER TO OTHER OWNERS.*AK Make : TOYOTA Model : 4 RUNNER Year : 2005 Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. Crash : No Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0 ODI ID Number : 10149000 Number of Deaths: 0 Date of Failure: January 29, 2006 VIN : JTEBT17R450... Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM Summary: DT*: THE CONTACT STATED THE VEHICLE SURGES FORWARD WHILE THE AIR CONDITIONER IS ON. THE VEHICLE HAS AUTOMATIC CLIMATE CONTROL. HEAVY PRESSURE HAS TO BE APPLIED TO THE BRAKE WHEN STOPPING IN ORDER TO PREVENT THE VEHICLE FROM CONTINUING TO SURGE FORWARD WHEN THE AIR CONDITIONER IS TURNED ON.. THE RPMS INCREASE UP TO 200 - 300 WHEN THE AIR CONDITION TURNS ON. THE SURGING IS A CONSTANT PROBLEM WITH THE VEHICLE. THE DEALERSHIP DETERMINED THE PROBLEM WAS NORMAL FOR THE VEHICLE TYPE. UPDATED 02/13/06. *JB Make : TOYOTA Model : 4 RUNNER Year : 2005 Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. Crash : No Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0 ODI ID Number : 10144479 Number of Deaths: 0 Date of Failure: November 30, 2005 VIN : JTEBT14R050... Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE Summary: WHILE STOPPED, MY 2005 4RUNNER MOVES FORWARD WHEN COMPRESSOR ENGAGES. THE RPM AT IDLE WILL FLUCTUATE BETWEEN 750 AND 1100. DURING THE LATER PORTION OF FLUCTUATION, ABNORMAL BRAKE PRESSURE IS NEEDED TO KEEP THE 4RUNNER FROM MOVING FORWARD. IDLE SPEEDS CAN REACH 25 MPH ON FLAT SURFACE AND 45 ON MODERATE SLOPE. IF YOU ARE CRUISING AT 60 MPH AND REMOVE PRESSURE FROM ACCELERATOR, VEHICLE IDLE WILL RETAIN 55 MPH. TOYOTA CLAIMS THIS IS NORMAL. PLEASE INVESTIGATE BEFORE THIS CAUSES A SEVERE ACCIDENT. IF YOU FORGET TO APPLY MASSIVE FORCE TO BRAKE PEDAL WHILE STOPPED... SOMEONE MAY IDLE THROUGH AN INTERSECTION. *JB *NM Make : TOYOTA Model : 4 RUNNER Year : 2005 Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC. Crash : No Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0 ODI ID Number : 10127376 Number of Deaths: 0 Date of Failure: June 10, 2005 VIN : JTEBU14R258... Component: VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL Summary: WHILE WAITING AT A STOPLIGHT, MY FOOT LIGHTLY ON THE BRAKE, THE ENGINE SURGES FROM A NORMAL IDLE SPEED OF 500 RPM UP TO 750-800RPM WITH NO WARNING. THIS HAPPENS FREQUENTLY BUT AT RANDOM TIMES. (REMEMBER THE AUDI 500) DEALER HAS BEEN UNABLE TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Thanks for the FYI. It also should have been reflected in all the various consumer report auto ratings and analysis. Seems a bunch of people dropped (or hid) the ball on this one. I bought a Prius in October. So far so good. It would be terrible if there was a major problem, especially since I did do my diligence before shopping or buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Burner Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 For the OP... Got a link? I'm sure the Redskins organization would appreciate it. After all, Toyota has a substantial presence at FedEx and Redskins Park. Too, a fix has been approved by the government and this will be a non-issue within a few weeks. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100131/ap_on_bi_ge/us_toyota_recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabee1973 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 one of the pontiac cars uses a toyota gas petal think its the vibe but not sure it should also be included in a recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Interesting that this is finally hitting the Tailgate. This has been huge news throughout the past week. The recall has been called "unprecedented" by many. It has been something to watch. It should also be noted that the parts going to the dealerships is something the dealerships have essentially been begging Toyota for since practically the time this all came down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 This also affects Lexus, btw.. I know my car is under the recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikered30 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Any Toyota ever made at any time? Seems a bit dramatic, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Burner Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 This also affects Lexus, btw.. I know my car is under the recall Two of the three Toys that I have are under the recall. Other family members have several Toys that will be affected too. None of us have had a problem though. By the end of February, it will be a non issue. The pedal situation seems to affect those who live in high humidity areas and even then, the numbers are very low. And that's usually the case with any recall of any manufacturer - a few cars are affected, but the entire fleet of models is typically subjected to the recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikered30 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 After reading the descriptions, do not ever pump your brakes if the throttle sticks, you only lose the vacuum. Put the car in neutral and push and hold the brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Two of the three Toys that I have are under the recall. Other family members have several Toys that will be affected too. None of us have had a problem though.By the end of February, it will be a non issue. The pedal situation seems to affect those who live in high humidity areas and even then, the numbers are very low. And that's usually the case with any recall of any manufacturer - a few cars are affected, but the entire fleet of models is typically subjected to the recall. ya my IS is under the recall and im waiting to hear word from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Toyota has managed this crisis very, very poorly. Typical for a Japanese company. ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Toyota has managed this crisis very, very poorly. Typical for a Japanese company....... We've been told for years, even by "pro-Americans," how superior the Japanese companies are---but this isn't a faulty seat belt fitting, this is cars accelerating when they're not supposed to and people dying. Can you imagine the response if this were a Ford or GM recall? Now, bad things happen, I'm not going to say we should never buy a Toyota again (though I'm more fond of the Korean cars, at this point) but for all that talk a mere handful of years ago about the Japanese car quality--Ford posts an enormous profit, gets legit ratings in a few categories above any 'import' company and here we are again. Hell, even GM has some nice cars, it's just a matter of the company's financial future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 It's good timing for the American cars trying desperately to rebound. I think it will certainly help cars like the Focus. I've actually been already seeing quite a few of them on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Burner Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 We've been told for years, even by "pro-Americans," how superior the Japanese companies are---but this isn't a faulty seat belt fitting, this is cars accelerating when they're not supposed to and people dying. People dying? Can you provide a link or links? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 We've been told for years, even by "pro-Americans," how superior the Japanese companies are---but this isn't a faulty seat belt fitting, this is cars accelerating when they're not supposed to and people dying. Can you imagine the response if this were a Ford or GM recall? yah, exactly. There is a definite double standard. Japanese companies as a whole do very, very, very poorly with reacting to crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 All Toyotas ever? That seems to be a bit much. I've driven the same Highlander for the past seven years, never had this problem. It's a great vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 People dying? Can you provide a link or links? No. I'm talking about people dying as a result of cars going unwanted into traffic or into someone's rear because of that dysfunctional acceleration. It may or may not have happened, but I haven't heard confirmed specific reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinpride1 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Well the old trick of stomping the gas pedal if it sticks to floor is out the window. Why? Majority of newer vehicles no longer have throttle cable or linkages!!!! That is right a electric motor controls the throttle!!! The electronic throttle is hard wired to the vehicles main computer system(PCM) Pop the hood on your new Toyota and look for a throttle cable bet you don't see one. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/6743567.html I have been working on vehicles for almost 20 years and I can tell you the thought of a computer glitch or even a short in the wires going to the accelerator that can cause you to lose control of your vehicle and crash not good and gives my chills down my back. I wondered how long it would take for this to happen and I can tell you that I don't believe the floor mat thing for a second!!! There is a common practice in the life of a automotive technician known as Flashing your main computer(PCM) on your vehicle. Just like your Home computer gets updates you can do the same on your cars computer. I have Flashed many a car in my day bring it in erase files and install new files to the on board system to fix problems from high idling,stalling out at stops,check engine light on. I bet you anything Toyota is stalling with the floor mat thing trying to figure the bug out and it would not surpise me any if a Flash is not the fix. You basically have three main items the throttle motor,wiring,computer. Another big concern can be moisture or water getting into the wiring at the terminals where the connectors are. The water can cause voltage drops which can trick the computer because it can only read numbers anyway into thinking you are accelerating. I do not like the Hard wire throttle system at all plus if the motor goes bad it will probably be over $1000 to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoGood28 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I'm confident in my 2005 Scion tC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 All Toyotas ever? That seems to be a bit much. I've driven the same Highlander for the past seven years, never had this problem. It's a great vehicle. Here's the list of models being recalled for those interested. There is also a link on that page for Toyota vehicles not affected by the recall. http://www.toyota.com/recall/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggins77 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I've got a 2008 Sequoia and the issue isn't as severe as people think. It's not like your going to get stuck and accelerate to 120 mph and die. Prior to the pedal getting stuck, it will become hard to press down. Also, its pretty much common knowledge that if your pedal does stick and is slow to depress, then you can hit your brakes and in a worse case scenario, shift to neutral as that stops the engine from engaging the wheels. The cases where is gets completely stuck are extremely rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljs Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 sounds like only the newer vehicles, I have a 99 4 Runner for 7 Years and never once had an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinpride1 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 sounds like only the newer vehicles, I have a 99 4 Runner for 7 Years and never once had an issue. Yes...99 has the old throttle cable system, should be only newer vehicles with the newer electronic throttle system. Read my post above anyone wanting to know about the newer vehicles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Haven't read the whole thread. But I thought if your car's vin #started with a number instead of a letter then you weren't affected? Plus I had heard that it didn't affect cars that were actually built in Japan. I could be wrong about this though. Edit: And I could have the vin # thing switched around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21cents Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 4runner, isnt that a chick car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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