Josh90286 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Peter King reported today that Shanahan "was thinking hard about the 3-4 last summer" when at a Steelers camp. Zimmer, who has been connected to the Redskins the most in recent rumors, does have experience in the 3-4. My question is, do you think that we have the personnel for the 3-4? I personally think that Orakpo would benefit from going from playing half his time at DE and half at OLB to a pass rushing OLB in a 3-4 scheme that so many other hybrids like him have flourished in. I also think that we have the perfect space-eater nose tackle in Haynesworth to make it work. DE - needed NT - Haynesworth DE - Daniels OLB - Orakpo MLB - Fletcher MLB - McIntosh / Blades OLB - Carter Do you think this would improve or harm our defensive output? Edited to change lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homercles82 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Inside sources are pointing to picking up Merriman for a 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4SB Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Carter weighs what? 250 lbs? Way too light to play DE in a 3-4. Just say no to the 3-4! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Inside sources are pointing to picking up Merriman for a 3-4. care to elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup's Uncle Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Merriman sucks now that's he's not roided up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homercles82 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 care to elaborate? No because my source works in the FedEx building and does not have a job title that includes janitor, custodian or concessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farbod21 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Did this need its own thread? Its pure speculation on the part of hacks that don't even watch our games. We dont have the roster for a 3-4. Until it happens, lets not spring up 100 threads on the subject... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh90286 Posted January 5, 2010 Author Share Posted January 5, 2010 Carter weighs what? 250 lbs? Way too light to play DE in a 3-4.Just say no to the 3-4! You are right. However, Andre did play OLB in San Fransisco, correct? We could draft or pick up a bigger DE and move Andre back to OLB to play opposite Orakpo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Zimmer never had success in the 3-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh90286 Posted January 5, 2010 Author Share Posted January 5, 2010 Did this need its own thread? Its pure speculation on the part of hacks that don't even watch our games. We dont have the roster for a 3-4. Until it happens, lets not spring up 100 threads on the subject... So a fan forum is only for reacting to things that have already happened? Thanks for your input to the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePreciating Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 There's a reason no NFC East teams use a 3-4. It doesn't work against smashmouth football teams. Look at how the Giants dominated the Pats in the Super Bowl. Look at how the Steelers fell apart when teams started running at them. A 3-4 is a good scheme if you're putting up 35 points a game and forcing teams to pass all the time. In the NFC East, a 3-4 is a ticket to last place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emor09 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 There's a reason no NFC East teams use a 3-4. It doesn't work against smashmouth football teams. Look at how the Giants dominated the Pats in the Super Bowl. Look at how the Steelers fell apart when teams started running at them. A 3-4 is a good scheme if you're putting up 35 points a game and forcing teams to pass all the time. In the NFC East, a 3-4 is a ticket to last place. Dallas goes 3-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyy Dirtyy #Thirtyy Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 There's a reason no NFC East teams use a 3-4. It doesn't work against smashmouth football teams. Look at how the Giants dominated the Pats in the Super Bowl. Look at how the Steelers fell apart when teams started running at them. A 3-4 is a good scheme if you're putting up 35 points a game and forcing teams to pass all the time. In the NFC East, a 3-4 is a ticket to last place. have you ever heard of the dallas cowboys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 21 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 There's a reason no NFC East teams use a 3-4. Dont the cowboys use 3-4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Peter King reported today that Shanahan "was thinking hard about the 3-4 last summer" when at a Steelers camp.Zimmer, who has been connected to the Redskins the most in recent rumors, does have experience in the 3-4. My question is, do you think that we have the personnel for the 3-4? I personally think that Orakpo would benefit from going from playing half his time at DE and half at OLB to a pass rushing OLB in a 3-4 scheme that so many other hybrids like him have flourished in. I also think that we have the perfect space-eater nose tackle in Haynesworth to make it work. DE - needed NT - Haynesworth DE - Daniels OLB - Orakpo MLB - Fletcher MLB - McIntosh / Blades OLB - Carter Do you think this would improve or harm our defensive output? Edited to change lineup Haynesworth isn't a NT. He's a 1 gap DT. He was pissed off this year about having to eat space in Blache's system. Daniels is too small and too old to switch to a 5 technique. Carter failed miserably as a OLB when he was much younger and had fresher legs. No way he would ever want to do that again. This team simply IS NOT built for a 3-4 defense in any way, shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfriedenthal Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 DE - needed NT - Haynesworth DE - Daniels OLB - Orakpo MLB - Fletcher MLB - McIntosh / Blades OLB - Carter Do you think this would improve or harm our defensive output? Edited to change lineup Wouldn't Jarmon fit the other DE spot? He is larger, No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh90286 Posted January 5, 2010 Author Share Posted January 5, 2010 There's a reason no NFC East teams use a 3-4. It doesn't work against smashmouth football teams. Look at how the Giants dominated the Pats in the Super Bowl. Look at how the Steelers fell apart when teams started running at them. A 3-4 is a good scheme if you're putting up 35 points a game and forcing teams to pass all the time. In the NFC East, a 3-4 is a ticket to last place. Using this year's Steelers team conveniently leaves out their past 3-4 defenses.. In 2008, they had the number one defense in the league, including the number two rush defense in the league. In 2007, they were number 3 overall and also number 3 in rush defense. Whatever defense you run, its still about the players, not solely the scheme. A 3-4 does not mean you cannot stop the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikie Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I think hanyesworth would throw a fit if he was moved to NT in a 3-4, he wasn't happy the way he was used in blache's 4-3... and if you think he isn't durable now, he'd probably last half the games as a NT... and why get merriman when orakpo is perfect as the pass rushing OLB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh90286 Posted January 5, 2010 Author Share Posted January 5, 2010 Wouldn't Jarmon fit the other DE spot? He is larger, No? I didn't think he had the size to play it, but I could be wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SittingBull Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Carter would throw a fit just as big as Haynesworth, one of the reasons he wanted out of SF was to be able to be DE again. 3-4 is not a good idea at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 In the NFC East, a 3-4 is a ticket to last place. As much as it hurts to say this, Dallas must have been given the wrong ticket then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1N_SKINS Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 dont have the personnel to run a 3-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyy Dirtyy #Thirtyy Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I didn't think he had the size to play it, but I could be wrong? No you're right, Jarmon is not big enough to play 3-4 DE. Our offense is already enough of a problem, we don't need to turn the defense into another problem to fix. Bring Zimmer in and keep the 4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farbod21 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I didn't think he had the size to play it, but I could be wrong? He is 285. He definetly has the size. Still the 3-4 is not a good fit for our team. With so many holes on offense, it would be stupid to completely retool the strength of our team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 We will not be running a 3-4 for all of the reasons posted. Just because Denver ran it (Shanny did not run the defense) and Peter King is an idiot does not mean that we will run it. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.