Predicto Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Point blank, Smoot Point.....reallyAnd you're a defense lawyer...so you always gotta have doubt. I, uhh, thank all of you for your ability to convince the judge. Ok, I admit it. I have no idea what you are saying in this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Measuring IQ is total bullcrap. But claiming to know the average IQ of entire states is even more bullcrap. So true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Special someone is special. Good for you. But seriously, facts are facts and 1+1=7 So you're seriously going to stand beside the uneducated=church goer argument? Yeah, I'm thinking the Habakkuk passage was about right but maybe not quite on target, how about... 1 Corinthians 1:27 But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 So you're seriously going to stand beside the uneducated=church goer argument? Yeah, I'm thinking the Habakkuk passage was about right but maybe not quite on target, how about...1 Corinthians 1:27 But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong. That happens to be one of my favorite readings... The Homily that followed was also pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 I've been enjoying just hanging back and reading the discussion, but I'll to add that as someone who knows the matter professionally (and that‘s an understatement), there's some notable displays of ignorance posted regarding the merits/usefulness of competent state-of-the-art IQ testing or various related developmental profiling/assessment tools. And there is a very impressive list of heavyweight private/federal institutions who use them quite seriously (for good reasons) in areas where things counts for far, far more than in the realm of message board opining. And I'm not biased by how well they pay, just grateful. Of course, such tests/assessments are not singularly transcendent in accurately portraying a person's global competencies and are not used in isolation from other data in forming a useful picture. But dismissing them in the sweeping manner I am seeing some do is fairly ignorant. And in at least one post, done quite stupidly. But aside from offering that notice, I'm going to leave it there for several intelligent reasons (one is to avoid any derailing). I now withdraw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Britney Spears is from Mississippi and thinks she's religious. That in itself should cast a shadow over the results of this study. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 Britney Spears is from Mississippi and thinks she's religious. That in itself should cast a shadow over the results of this study. :hysterical: oops, they did it again. Absolutely, the study and it's results, while fitting many stereotypes and any number of people's anecdotal experiences, was done as a simple survey and is hardly some significant meta-analysis. I wouldn't take it as anything like definitively conclusive. At best it might reasonably reflect some sweeping general attributes on the matter of religious belief that applies each region. This is the site for the organization credited as the orginator of the study in the WT article: http://pewforum.org/ I thought it would be those stereotypes and anecdotes that folks' here have, and pre-existing views on regional characteristics, that would be interesting to read about in response to such claims, and I have enjoyed reading the discussion. Some regions would, logically enough, seem to have various social characteristics more notable in presence than in other regions--even in a highly mobile and diverse society. Qualifying them and quantifying them with any high degree of accuracy is a challenge. It's been a good discussion and remarkably free of ugly and whacko, which is always pleasant, and is not as typcial as I might wish in the tailgate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 However, I doubt you will find many (or any, for that matter) great thinkers that came from an atheistic environment but decided to accept theism. Of course there are. I don't intend to take the trouble to make a list (and such numbers games are pointless anyway), but a very good example would be Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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