HailGreen28 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 I thought Shanahan was fired from the Broncos for bad personnel moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenaa Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Yes, although with Cerrato it seems that there was some give and take between Cerrato and Snyder. I can't believe people think that this is appropriate behavior. The culture at Redskins park is one of infighting, sniping, and get what you can for yourself instead of thinking about the team. That comes from Snyder. It comes from actions like this. Sorry. You are wrong. If you've decided that a change has to be made, you put the pieces in place while the pieces you want are still available. I'd imagine that Zorn has already been told he will be released from his contract at the end of the Season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hieverybody Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Sorry. You are wrong. If you've decided that a change has to be made, you put the pieces in place while the pieces you want are still available. I'd imagine that Zorn has already been told he will be released from his contract at the end of the Season. If they've talked to Zorn about it, that makes things better. But it doesn't take most teams a month to hire a new coach. Other teams seem to be able to manage it in a week or two because they aren't repeatedly turned down by qualified candidates who don't want to work in a toxic environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Well, I guess we should have been pretty certain after Redskins One was sited in Denver. How often does Danny swing and miss when there's no trade involved? The answer is barely ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrifNick21 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 I'm starting to feel like I don't give a finger in the middle who the head coach is going to be. I just want a team that WINS! I don't care who the coach is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 I don't like the idea of Danny picking the coach, but that's not a disaster. If Danny keeps picking players, though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkipJackSkin Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 I'm having trouble believing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadium-Armory Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 This would signal another Snyder-esq power sharing arrangement A committee of 2.5 I'm sort of hoping for a more linear organizational structure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hieverybody Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 This would signal another Snyder-esq power sharing arrangement A committee of 2.5 I'm sort of hoping for a more linear organizational structure The problem is Allen is reputedly not a personnel guy. More of a cap guy. So it's hard to make him the big Kahuna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSilverMaC Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Not sure, but he made Cutler look good. That's gotta count for something. I think Brandon Marshal did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumboSauce Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Classy move Snyder. You too Shanahan. As far as I know, Zorn is still the coach of this team. Head coach should be a very loose term in reference to Zorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Shanny total at Denver (reg season): 138-86 Shanny 10 reg seasons without Elway: 91-69. Seems like we could do worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Yes, although with Cerrato it seems that there was some give and take between Cerrato and Snyder. I can't believe people think that this is appropriate behavior. The culture at Redskins park is one of infighting, sniping, and get what you can for yourself instead of thinking about the team. That comes from Snyder. It comes from actions like this. Do you think this doesn't happen in many businesses? Corporations just fire someone without anybody to replace the work they put in? The world continues to turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruinSkin Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Jeremy Bates, current USC Asst. HC/QB coach, who was the QB coach in Denver. God, I hope not. I've had to sit through his terrible playcalling all college season. This turkey a) doesn't play to his team's strengths and has no love for misdirection to keep the defense off balance. Just say no to Bates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkipJackSkin Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Head coach should be a very loose term in reference to Zorn. Yeah, pretty much the only stuff he does during the games are tell JC random tid bits of "advice", and make faces when we miss 3 field goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hieverybody Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Do you think this doesn't happen in many businesses? Corporations just fire someone without anybody to replace the work they put in? The world continues to turn. First of all, just because it happens in other organizations doesn't make it right. And secondly, the NFL is a small circle of people where reputation matters. Snyder has a reputation of constant disrespect for his employees - that makes his job more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 I thought Shanahan was fired from the Broncos for bad personnel moves. Ultimately he was fired because he couldn't handle being the GM and the HC. He had trouble putting together a stable defense and the last straw was losing 3 games in a row when he needed 1 to clinch. If he comes here, he will have some control of the roster but also have to agree with Allen and most likely one other Front Office manager in charge of player-personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 The problem is Allen is reputedly not a personnel guy. More of a cap guy. So it's hard to make him the big Kahuna. http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8150a16a&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true The Redskins will explore candidates to round out the front office in player-personnel roles, according to sources, with current personnel executives such as Eric DeCosta (Baltimore), Bobby DePaul (Chicago) and Doug Williams (Tampa Bay) among possibilities. The Redskins came close to hiring DePaul to replace Cerrato twice during the Gibbs regime, according to sources, and DeCosta, a rising star as Ozzie Newsome's top lieutenant with the Ravens, began his career with the Redskins. Williams won a Super Bowl as the Redskins' quarterback and worked under Allen for the Buccaneers in personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Bruce Allen is not a personnel guy. He is a former agent. His expertise is contract negotiation/salary cap management.Shanahan can pick the talent and it would work out. Maybe it can work if Shanahan does end up coaching this team, but I still would like a guy like Eric DeCosta as a go between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hieverybody Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8150a16a&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=trueThe Redskins will explore candidates to round out the front office in player-personnel roles, according to sources, with current personnel executives such as Eric DeCosta (Baltimore), Bobby DePaul (Chicago) and Doug Williams (Tampa Bay) among possibilities. The Redskins came close to hiring DePaul to replace Cerrato twice during the Gibbs regime, according to sources, and DeCosta, a rising star as Ozzie Newsome's top lieutenant with the Ravens, began his career with the Redskins. Williams won a Super Bowl as the Redskins' quarterback and worked under Allen for the Buccaneers in personnel. That would be great. Of course, I would still worry that Snyder would be the "arbiter" of disputes like was with Gibbs/Cerrato, but DeCosta deserves a chance at being head guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskns21 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Can anyone give me a primer on Shanahan's offense? I realize he ran a West Coast offense, but how does it compare to Zorn's/Lewis'? WCO, though he uses a lot of stretch running plays. Prefers smaller, athletic lineman who unfortunately cut block way too much for my liking. A lot of bootlegs (which I think suits Campbell) on his passing calls. IMHO, he was one of the very best in game play callers when he was in Denver. I'd be very happy to have him coaching assuming someone is brought in to compliment him in the personnel department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMonster Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Awesome. Wasn't happy about Bruce Allen, but with Shanahan on board and a personnel guy coming too I am happy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman#21 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Very Happy if this comes true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatmeworry Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Just say NO to Shanahan. We are now building a legit FO. Let's stick with Zorn. He's growing into the job, has his players giving great effort despite a disappointing season and I think has finally recognized he was trying to do too much being HC, OC and PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 I still would like a guy like Eric DeCosta as a go between the two. Won't happen. Its a lateral move & the Ravens will block it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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