Rocky52Mc Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/17/report-redskins-chasing-bruce-allen/ Wow. On the same morning that executive V.P. of football operations Vinny Cerrato has resigned, triggering speculation that Mike Holmgren or Mike Shanahan could be taking the reins of the Redskins, Jay Glazer of FOX has dropped a bomb on us, baby. Glazer reports that Redskins coaches were advised today that the teams is in talks with former Raiders and Buccaneers executive Bruce Allen. Allen's father, George, was one of the most beloved coaches in franchise history not named "Joe Gibbs." As Glazer points out, the Redskins would be required to satisfy the Rooney Rule when filling the top front-office position. In this case, either the Redskins already have quietly satisfied the requirement, or Allen would be hired for a position that does not presently require compliance with the Rooney Rule. The arrival of Allen undoubtedly would trigger speculation that the next move would be to dump coach Jim Zorn and pursue Jon Gruden, who partnered with Allen both in Oakland and Tampa. This is crazy, WHO IS IT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeccanSkins Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Hmmmm. This may mean massive changes....again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMagicJuan Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 not really...just coaches wise, yes...but Gruden runs the west coast....i think its basically the same thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat~man Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Hmm, I'm unsure how I should feel about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da#1skinsfan Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I dont buy it. The new GM will decide if Zorn & JC stay...and quite frankly, given that Cerrato didnt mention Zorn in his outgoing statement, I think Vinny lost his battle with Zorn directly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorebd82 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Apparently Gruden can't leave his position at ESPN so he's out of the equation. This is from Mort's chat yesterday: Bill (Columbus)Hey mort love your commercial with adam. What do you think of clevelands attempt to hire Holmgren? Do you think this is a good move? I for one think holmgren would bring in Maraucchi or gruden to coach this team, your thoughts..... Chris Mortensen (11:48 AM) Holmgren would bring some credibility. Gruden is not going anywhere. He can't contractually, otherwise I would have agreed with you. I doubt it on Mariucci. I think Leslie Frazier is possible but let me throw out a surprise name to you - Marty Mornhinweg. Marty was successful OC in SF, has done great as the real play-caller in Philly. How much can we hold Lions against him in light of their dismal performance as a franchise? And how long do we hold 20 seconds of a coin flip and "I'll take the wind" against him? Just questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 HomerMcFanboy Consider this a rumor for now, but word on the street is that the #Redskins might have a press conference soon to name Bruce Allen new GM. 8 minutes ago from web I don't know how credible this guy is though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 While he would know more about the Skins than Vinny, I don't know about his talent-evaluation skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chants Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/12/17/cerrato-out-as-redskins-vp/ more here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demarc007 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Gruden just signed a deal through 2011 to do Monday Night Football. I guess he can back out of it but he stated he's perfectly fine broadcasting the next two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikie Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 what color will gruden's tie be on monday!!!!! while allen had the bucs like 56M under the cap, I was never overly impressed with his drafts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I heard that it won't be Allen. Snyder has a thing for Matt Millen. It makes sense too. Millen was part of the Superbowl Redskins days and has experience with a GM and really likes drafting big wide receivers. Millen for GM!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGameCoksandSkins Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 106.7 just reported Bruce Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Apparently Gruden can't leave his position at ESPN so he's out of the equation. This is from Mort's chat yesterday: I'm not sure why Bruce Allen would trigger that response anyways. Didn't those two have issues with each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRagone Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I heard that it won't be Allen. Snyder has a thing for Matt Millen. It makes sense too. Millen was part of the Superbowl Redskins days and has experience with a GM and really likes drafting big wide receivers.Millen for GM!!! No, just.....oh god....even joking that hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General NSJ Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 The junkies made an interesting point on the timing of this announcement. Guess who's coming to town for MNF this week? Add in that they're allegedly talking to Bruce Allen, hmmm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Gruden will be wearing a burgundy and gold tie Monday night :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I dont buy it.The new GM will decide if Zorn & JC stay...and quite frankly, given that Cerrato didnt mention Zorn in his outgoing statement, I think Vinny lost his battle with Zorn directly... Vinny didn't lose a battle with Zorn, Vinny lost a battle with the fans that he's been winning for a decade. Good coaches don't want to come here and they won't as long as Vinny is here. Vinny holds ZERO respect among his peers. In the leadership world that is key. People don't have to like you, but they sure as hell have to respect you. The fanbase has been rumbling. Zorn was in a fight with Vinny without any weapons. Zorn makes himself look as bad as Vinny made him look. I like Zorn as a man, but he's bottom three in coaching. His fate was sealed when a retiree left "bingo-calling" to offer consulting tips for the club, then when he takes over, the offense lights up. "Bingo-Zorn's fate is sealed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 The way I see it even if Allen totally tanked it is a positive move since it would signal an attempt to move towards a credible FO structure that would allow future hires. As it is the Skins are seen as a toxic environment to work in, that needs addressing first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Allen_(American_football) Wiki is already referencing him being with the Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 not really...just coaches wise, yes...but Gruden runs the west coast....i think its basically the same thing.... Jon Gruden comes from the Paul Hackett tree of the west coast offense and he's got more in common with Mike McCarthy than he does with Jim Zorn. Holmgren's branch of the WCO is IMO a much more purist variety. Zorn's philosophy is a lot like how the Eagles used to play. There will be changes. I like this move though. I'm not sold on Shanhan as a talent evaluator. He's only had one really impressive class this decade and a lot of lemons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benskins26 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 JLC reporting on NFL.com that the combo is Allen/Shanahan. I'm totally down with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Bruce Allen and Shanny the Super gm/coach combo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark The Homer Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 980 just reported from Jay Glazer has written that Allan could very well be announced later today as the new GM. This should be regarded as speculation until we hear more.... Edit: Found a link - http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/17/report-redskins-chasing-bruce-allen/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 and since when has JLC ever been correct in his information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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