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The only obvious solution to real cutting of spending is cutting Medicare. Everyone acknowledges it must be cut (See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxoP_9W6FC8) (an excellent interview with the former comptroller of the US, David Walker).

Its a political reality, yet no politician will actually publicly state it. Why not have an open dialog basically saying we have to cut medicare, or it will be bankrupt?

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The only obvious solution to real cutting of spending is cutting Medicare. Everyone acknowledges it must be cut (See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxoP_9W6FC8) (an excellent interview with the former comptroller of the US, David Walker).

Its a political reality, yet no politician will actually publicly state it. Why not have an open dialog basically saying we have to cut medicare, or it will be bankrupt?

How is cutting Medicare the "real obvious solution"?

So, what will be the solution for all those seniors suddenly without health care? What about the billions we spend on the military budget and our presence in Iraq and Afghanistan?

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No need to cut it. Just hire a few more fraud investigators. Doctors and clinics overbill for actual treatments and bill for nonexistent treatments. Also, There are some (I'm not saying all, or even most) people who go to the doctor's office just to have something to do. They are lonely, not ill.

Spend a little more on oversight, and save millions in abuse.

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Just to show you how personal this is getting with some dems and some liberal activists...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/12/14/2009-12-14_its_payback_liberals_angry_with_lieberman_over_health_care_target_his_wife_hadas.html

It's payback: Liberals angry with Lieberman over health care target his wife, Hadassah

BY Michael Mcauliff

DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

Monday, December 14th 2009, 3:52 PM

Progressive Democrats are so angry at Sen. Joe Lieberman, they want to punish his wife, Hadassah.

Lieberman stunned and infuriated Democrats - most recently this weekend - by saying he will oppose the health care reform plan Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is currently finalizing.

The liberal activists want to see Hadassah Lieberman booted from her position as "Global Ambassador" for the Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation.

And they've called on a range of stars, including Andie MacDowell, Christie Brinkley, Cynthia Nixon and Ellen DeGeneres, to help pressure the famed breast-cancer research group.

Jane Hamsher, of the progressive Firedoglake blog, mounted her campaign Friday, writing to Komen to dump Hadassah. Hamsher cited the senator's wife's past work for pharmaceutical outfits and others.

Hamsher, herself a breast-cancer survivor, argues "no more money raised for cancer treatment be given to Hadassah Lieberman or any other ex-Pharma/Insurance strategists."

Komen has thus far not been inclined to listen.

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How is cutting Medicare the "real obvious solution"?

So, what will be the solution for all those seniors suddenly without health care? What about the billions we spend on the military budget and our presence in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Why don't we just disband the military and retrain them to be gardeners. That is as logical as your argument quoted above. We need to admit that this program is going bankrupt and draw a line in the sand and start telling people something along the line of "if you were born before x-date then you get the current system benefits, if you were born after that date you do not get anything. We don't need to punish those people who have come to depend on the government handout, we need to prevent people from lining up for more handouts that we cannot afford to give.

The "billions we spend on the military budget and our presence in Iraq and Afghanistan" is barely a drop in the bucket when compared to the existing "entitlement" spending and the proposed expansion of entitlement programs.

As the old saying goes: if you think health care is expensive now, just wait until it is free...

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Here is the tricky part how if they expand it to the 55 yr olds how will they cut it?

I know an economist who strongly supports the 55 option. In a nutshell, he knows that Medicare will fail financially so that would force politicians to re-do things again in 5-10 years. His logic is that is better than sticking us with a bad national healthcare program which would potentially take much longer to undo.

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