Thiebear Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 $8000 is a lot, but $100,000? That's ridiculous! way cheaper not to have them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter44 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Birth rates drop and populations stabilize as countries develop economically. We don't have the time or the resources to give the entire world the "American Dream". If we as a species have any hope, it is to get the population under control...unless that happens, we are all screwed....:doh: be fruitful and multiply...great advise!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjinhan Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 In Korea, they never officially had an one child policy or anything like that but the government did run some public campaign 20-30 yeears ago about just having a single child and raising them "correctly". "Correctly" meant being able to financially support their education and all that goes along with it. The campaign no long exists but people are choosing to have a single child or not have any at all now because of the competitve and expensive nature of raising kids in Korea. I believe the same happened in Japan for past 20-40 years.... Both countries, South Korea and Japan, is not actually facing populations problems not due to raising population levels but due to problems associated with declining. I know now in South Korea, the government pays the mothers "bonus" money for giving birth. In rich neighborhood where # of kids per family is low, the bonus are substantial and it increases as more kids you have but in rural areas where # of kids per family is still high, there is no bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjinhan Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Birth rates drop and populations stabilize as countries develop economically. thats only to a point.. you can overdue it.. look into population problems in Korea and Japan now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 You all can do your part, just like I plan to. Simply don't have children. You have no idea what you will be missing. I certainly understand the choice (just wouldn't recommend it to someone I liked). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleys Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 So Stalin, Hitler and Mao are heroes, saving the planet with population control? That explains a lot about leftists and the green movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I wonder what some of the pro life nutters have to say about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter44 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 So Stalin, Hitler and Mao are heroes, saving the planet with population control?That explains a lot about leftists and the green movement. Please, being fruitful and multiplying has gotten us far right?? It's selfish and screws everyone in the process...:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchogs Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 So Stalin, Hitler and Mao are heroes, saving the planet with population control?That explains a lot about leftists and the green movement. right. that's exactly what people are saying. nice job digging through all the bs to find that lil' kernal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 There are some weird-ass responses in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I wonder what some of the pro life nutters have to say about this.They are probably wishing that the pro death nutters would save the world by starting with themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 So Stalin, Hitler and Mao are heroes, saving the planet with population control?That explains a lot about leftists and the green movement. And God, because let's face it nobody does population control better than Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 They are probably wishing that the pro death nutters would save the world by starting with themselves.You must not be paying attention. The pro lifers are...well, they're pro life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter44 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 You must not be paying attention. The pro lifers are...well, they're pro life. Funny thing is that most of the ones that I know are pro death penelty... Including our last president...:doh: Speaking of him, anyone know whatever happened to "compassionate conservatism". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 This has been the subject or background of many "hard" science fiction books. In Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card the magic number is two children per family. Ender is in fact a "third", allowed only because the government was looking for a genius child of the right temperament and his family showed great promise. In Natures End things get so bad that people vote on taking part in a "lottery". Every one would randomly take a pill of which a given percentage would be lethal in order to reduce the population. I don't know if it will get to that point but I think the truth my be in there somewhere. At some point, more radical ideas like forced population control may get enough support if the consequences of not doing so become too great. My feeling is that it's more likely we will have a great war over it and reduce the population that way, rather than any carefully thought out plan to keep things from reaching that point. That's just what humans do. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 My feeling is that it's more likely we will have a great war over it and reduce the population that way, rather than any carefully thought out plan to keep things from reaching that point. That's just what humans do. :doh: I'm telling you, War and Disease. Survival of the Fittest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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