bulldog Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 In today's WP article on players the Redskins may go after, there was a blurb about the possible release of Mark Brunell because of a huge hit on the Jags cap from his bonus. If Brunell is available and for no compensation at some point, the Redskins would be stupid not to go all out and acquire him. We know Bledsoe is going to cost us picks. We also know that Fiedler, Miller, Aikman and all the other soon to be free agent quarterbacks are a clear notch below Brunell if not two. The article also mentioned Spurrier perhaps looking into acquiring Jacquez Green, the former Florida receiver now with Tampa. I don't think Green has lived up to his draft position, but at 25 might be a better bet in the new offense based on familiarity than Kevin Lockett, who seems the odd man out right now at WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 Brunell would be wonderfull in my opinion. Problem is that he probably wouldn't be cut until July 1 (assuming he is cut). We know that SS likes to have the qb and receivers in great sympatico, is that enough time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 I don't know. Jacksonville is in terrible shape with regard to the cap. I just don't see how they can win this coming year. To me, it almost seems like they should do to Brunnell what we did with Stubby last year, take the hit now and have space the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fuji869 Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 I am for it! Only problem is Brunnel has lost a step in the past couple of years because of his knee injuries, but it is an upgrade from what we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GURU Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 Two questions, bulldog. One, how long are you willing to wait and see if Brunell becomes available? Two, what makes you think that Kevin Lockett is the odd man out? Lockett isn't a 4.3 speed merchant, but he's quick and a good athlete. In my opinion, Lockett is the consumate Spurrier receiver: runs great routes, catches everything. In fact, in Spurrier's system, Lockett might excel more than any other receiver currently on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 I disagree about Fiedler. He would be better than Brunnell in Spurriers system. He's very smart, tough and durable and makes quick reads. Brunnell is a better qb in his current system than Fiedler would be, but Brunnell would struggle in an offense like the Rams. Plus, Fiedler will be cheaper. As for WRs. I dont see MW coming back. SS wont want 2 big possession type WRs. Gardner will be that guy. Lockett will get plenty of opportunity. I would guess Skaggs and McCants will get a shot at starting. I would have no problem with JQ Green if he would play for cheap, but if we are goingto spend money on a FA WR than we need to look at Hakim, Hayes, Dwight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 Lockett runs good routes and has good hands. SS wants receivers who have that capacity (speed is secondary). His only problem is that he is a 'Marty-man'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GURU Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 Brunell is superior to Fiedler in any way I can possibly think of. Have you really watched Brunell play much? This guy is a franchise quarterback, albeit one on the downside of his career. Brunell is one of the best pure passers in the game today. You can't coach his accuracy and touch. It's a gift. Plus, Brunell is one of the gutsiest competitors. His body, to the point of losing much of his mobility, has been battered by poor offensive line play and the lack of a running game the past couple of years, but he hangs in there and basically keeps that team in games by himself. Well, him and Jimmy Smith. Why would Brunell struggle in Martz's offense? I'm fairly confident that Brunell would be very effective in whatever offensive system you put him in. Spurrier's offense and Stephen Davis' running would be a dream come true to Brunell. The only reservations I would have about Brunell is his future durability (and age) and the fact that Spurrier would like to build this offense in his own image. Brunell may be too established. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 That said it best. He's been battered and is on the downside of his career. If Marty were still here, I'd be clamoring for Brunnell. But with SS, our QB is going to take alot of hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GURU Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 What makes you think the QB in Spurrier's offense is going to take a lot of hits? I think there are a lot of assumptions being made about his offense that probably aren't true. Spread formations mean fewer blockers. In the NFL that invites more blitzes. If that's what your worried about, I can understand, a bit. But the Fun-and-Gun is NOT the Run-and-Shoot. The truth of the matter is, we really don't know exactly what we are going to see on offense this year. Once Spurrier gets into the film room and gets a chance to look at what NFL defenses are doing and what his personnel can do, God only knows what he'll dream up. When Spurrier was coaching the Tampa Bay Bandits, he had a TIGHT END who caught over 70 passes for over 1000 yards one season. The next season, he had a running back who rushed for over 1,200 yards AND caught over 70 passes. The things you can count on in Spurrier's offense is that his passing game will be based on timing and precision, and that the playcalling will be aggressive. But aggressive means keeping the defense guessing. He may spread the field with 4 or 5 receiver one play or one series, but then he'll come out with two tight ends and two running backs. Just don't get too many preconceived ideas. Spurrier won't hang his QB out to dry. Joe Gibbs never ran a lot of maximum protection until Mark Rypien became the regular quarterback. The talent and circumstances required it. But even during the Super Bowl run in '91, when max protection was the norm, there were times when Gibbs would come out and run a whole series with 4 wideouts. He always kept them guessing. Spurrier will do the same. [ by GURU on January 17, 2002.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted January 17, 2002 Author Share Posted January 17, 2002 if Spurrier's biggest problem his first year is how to adapt his offense to the skills of Mark Brunell, who has a strong arm and can run as well, than he will be in pretty good stead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF4L Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 In this locale, the Jags on the tube is a weekly thing. bulldog and guru are spot-on. Brunell is still a helluva QB. Take that to the bank.<br /><br />But wait, there are a bunch of nimrods around here who still think JG is the man. Get out of the way, cause I'm about to... hey, where's the barfing smilie? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="mad.gif" /><br /> <br /> [ January 17, 2002: Message edited by: RedskinFan4Life ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 Bottom line is that he'll be the best QB available, coming with a relatively cheap pricetag. (Assuming he's let go). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 If Brunell is available, the Skins should do whatever they can to sign him. If age and durability is that much of an issue, than SS should use a pick to draft a QB as well. That way the rookie can learn Spurrier's system and watch how it's done through Brunell.<br /><br />On the topic of recievers, I'd like to see Donald Hayes more than anyone else available. He's relatively young, runs good routes and has good speed. I'm sure he doesn't want to stay in Carolina after the season they endured. Maybe we can even give Patrick Jeffers a chance, if he's healthy enough to play again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted January 17, 2002 Author Share Posted January 17, 2002 Since we have a number of positions to fill it only seems to make sense to acquire a quarterback in free agency or by nominal trade rather than giving up a #1 in a major deal for Bledsoe or taking a qb at our spot in the draft.<br /><br />That way we can focus on the DE, OG and LB positions. <br /><br />And still find some more help at DT, depth at T and FB in the mid-tier free agency marketplace <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="smile.gif" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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