frankbones Posted July 20, 2003 Share Posted July 20, 2003 Did Anybody watch this? There was a small segment on Spurrier. Lupica called hi the Rick Pitino of the NFL. Jeremy Schaap thinks he will leave after they lose this year. Some other guy was calling Ramsey a bum. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion, but to label these 2 after 1 year in the pros is ludicrous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted July 20, 2003 Share Posted July 20, 2003 We are once again the Rodney Dangerfield Gang. No Respect!!! I love it! Mike Lupica knows as much about sports as Hillary Clinton does and Jeremy Schapp is a wanna be. They'll be eating some crow after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty dread Posted July 20, 2003 Share Posted July 20, 2003 Let the media talk all they want. At this point of the year everyone thinks they know it all when in truth they don't know squat. They're ready to write off Spurrier after one season and write off Ramsey after limited playing time in his rookie season?? Either they have a crystal ball or they have some serious bias towards the Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted July 20, 2003 Share Posted July 20, 2003 Originally posted by frankbones Did Anybody watch this? There was a small segment on Spurrier. Lupica called hi the Rick Pitino of the NFL. Jeremy Schaap thinks he will leave after they lose this year. Some other guy was calling Ramsey a bum. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion, but to label these 2 after 1 year in the pros is ludicrous Leave it to Mike Lupica to make the badly over-used, no-longer-applicable reference such as Rick Pitino. We have ONE Gator on our team, Mike. Jeremy Schaap disgraces his late father as a television personality every day as badly as the Buck kid does his father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted July 20, 2003 Share Posted July 20, 2003 the only reason Jeremy Schaap is in sports journalism at this level is as you said Joe, because of nepotism. what bothers a lot of these people is that unlike Rooney or Modell, Snyder is a guy about their age who just happens to have a lot more money and power and they resent it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitz Posted July 20, 2003 Share Posted July 20, 2003 Agreed, Joe. Lupica has always been a hack and always will be. I always enjoy it when he's on Letterman or Conan, because he always makes some stupid and invariably wrong prediction. I remember him saying that Jordan's return to playing was a horrible idea, and that he could only embarrass himself and his "legacy"; turns out it was the only thing MJ did right for the Wizards. If Lupica predicts failure for Spurrier, we can look forward to happy times As for Jeremy Schaap, if he had a different last name he'd be (to use Kornheiser's phrase) "slicing meat in a deli". I do like Joe Buck, although he pales next to his old man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTerps2002 Posted July 20, 2003 Share Posted July 20, 2003 I don't see how you can complain until we do something on the field to prove otherwise. Every offseason we have a new coach or a new player that is supposed to make all the difference and ever year we quit on the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitz Posted July 20, 2003 Share Posted July 20, 2003 Terps, no one is saying Spurrier or Ramsey are locks to be successful in the NFL. But it is equally premature to write them off as failures after one season, as these guys are. Jimmy Johnson certainly wasn't held to the same standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyaparanoia Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Originally posted by RTerps2002 I don't see how you can complain until we do something on the field to prove otherwise. Every offseason we have a new coach or a new player that is supposed to make all the difference and ever year we quit on the field That post is ever so true. Why do we get so upset when others don't see the Skins is a good light. You have to earn respect in this league. There are no freebies. I actually being unknowns myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTerps2002 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 I agree with that statement but as a diehard I have gone through all this offseason hype to many times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cskin Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 I don't see how you can complain until we do something on the field to prove otherwise. Every offseason we have a new coach or a new player that is supposed to make all the difference and ever year we quit on the field If that is the case, than how can these effing mediots say that Ramsey is a bum when he started five games... and had 9 TD's to 8 Int's (Three being Hail Mary's) being a rookie with half of training camp and little work with the starters? Additionally, eventhough we finished 7-9 with a rookie coaching his first NFL year, did they also call Jimmy Johnson a Pitino-like coach when he went 1-15 his first season? When Parcells began coaching in the NFL wasn't his first seasons less than could be desired? Eff the mediots.... and I hope S2 has some choice words for them when we begin mowing down the likes of Parcells....darlin Gruden.... and....and the stalwart Cowher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathByLinebacker Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Speaking of Jimmy Johnson, he was pro-Spurrier last year and even said "I still believe in Steve Spurrier" on Fox NFL Sunday when we were 5-9. Another guy that said he thought Spurrier was going to be a good NFL coach was John Madden. I'll take the opinion of two coaches who have won Super Bowls ahead of anything Lupica can spit out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
du7st Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 I find it pretty interesting that the Redskins were discussed on both the Sports Reporters and Around the Horn this week when there is no news to speak of and no other NFL teams were mentioned alongside them. I guess the Redskins are just that much more interesting then the rest of the NFL. I can't imagine what will happen if we put together a good season. As far at the comments go, who cares what these morons think. I think that sports "experts" generally get most of their opinions from what others write as opposed to actually watching games and making up their own minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTerps2002 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Listen I will be the first laugh when this team does well and the first to cry when they loose but the media has no reason to give praise unless you win on the field. As far as Ramsey being a bum I hope he is not, but I didn't say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just skins baby Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 What ticks people off is maybe not what was said, but who it was said by. As posted earlier, if Dick Schapp or maybe a respected sportswriter made the comment it could be accepted a little easier, but Lupica, is such a blowhard on every topic, you tend to get irritated by what he says. Mike and Mike are both the same way. The topics they get on the way the scream and shout you think would determine life and death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 No wonder Bobby Knight told Schapp he will never measure up to his dad. Lupica is a hack from NY that thinks a leagues success must have either knicks or rangers in the fore front Yeah while winning will make the naysayers gnash their teeth and gives up props its obvious that their is a bias. If S double was on anyother team he would be given the benefit of the doubt. The only thing that will derail this team this year is injuries not the personnel this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 There's a simple reason why the Steve Spurrier, Rick Pitino comparisons are off base. Pitino came to the pros, demanded full power, and then ran a college-style system in the Pros. Spurrier came here, wanted control of certain aspects of things, but not everything, and he runs an NFL-style system in the Pros. The two are nothing comparable. Whether Spurrier fails or not is irrelevant. He's much more NFL ready as a coach than Pitino was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Originally posted by DeathByLinebacker Speaking of Jimmy Johnson, he was pro-Spurrier last year and even said "I still believe in Steve Spurrier" on Fox NFL Sunday when we were 5-9. Another guy that said he thought Spurrier was going to be a good NFL coach was John Madden. I'll take the opinion of two coaches who have won Super Bowls ahead of anything Lupica can spit out. Amen to that, well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTaylor42 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Originally posted by DeathByLinebacker Another guy that said he thought Spurrier was going to be a good NFL coach was John Madden. Yeah I remember that about Madden too! He said when Spurrier was at Florida, he thought he was a pro coach coaching in College. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver00 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 I thought all of the guys made very good points... only they were talking about the wrong NFC East Coach. They should have been talking about Parcells. They said that Spurrier is missing the most important ingredient: a QB. Who does the Parcells have that is better than Ramsey? One said that Spurrier would coach another losing season, and then start looking for ways to skip town. Who has a track record of skipping town when things get tough? Spurrier coached at UF for 11 seasons. Parcells quit on New England, the Jets, and then dumped Tampa before he even started. Let's see how the Tuna handles a losing season in Dallas with Jerry Jones up his ass every second. I'd be SHOCKED if he was there after next season. Parcells won a couple Super Bowl a decade ago. He was obviously a great coach. All he's done since is get a couple of underachieving franchises to approach a level slightly above mediocrity, and then inexplicably quit on them. And after Billicek won it all two years ago, you have to wonder who was more responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Consigliere Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 I think what really irritated me, was that as they went to commerical before the third segment, they mentioned how the next topic was on Spurrier's Redskins. And then when they came back, they spent about 35 seconds on the segment, and it came across almost as if they'd been handed Q-Cards with the three biggest off season cliche's on the Redskins. 1. "They've got no QB." Nice research you incompetant Eunuch's, maybe next time instead of perusing Eagles and Cowboys bulletin boards, you can actually talk to scouts, and guys who review game tape like Ron Jaworski. Nope, you might as well have gone to lonestar to get that in depth analysis. 2. "Spurrier is the Pitino of the NFL." Thanks for simply reiterating your own take from july '02. Apparently you guys didn't pay attention to December '02. 3. "Snyder is impatient and will can Spurrier" Nice legwork boys, way to out on a limb. Three cliche's, no analysis, no insights, or thoughtful takes, just tired, old, "blow the dust off this cliche for me, will you?", commentary. It's just a bunch of garbage. And what is most galling is Lupica. How that jackarse has gotten a locked in role on that show for 15 years or more running I have no idea. Incidentally, as a west coaster I have to say, isn't it a bit much that sports reporters is really: Mich Albom out of Detroit, and three smug, fat, or abrassive and loud idiots from the upper North East. How about a guy from the midwest, the south, the southwest, the west or even the northwest. I have yet to see anyone, ever, from the west coast on that show. The fact that it's filmed in Conneticut or wherever doesn't justify the obvious parochial views of one tiny corner of the sporting country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Bottom line is Spurrier is one of those coaches that you either love or you hate... period. He provokes a response and honestly, he's going to make a bunch of people hate the Redskins. Is that such a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaganaut Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Journalists will say things like this because nobody remembers them a year from now. If the Spurrier turns out to be Rick Petino then Lupica will claim to be the first to make the comparison, if he turns out to be Jimmy Johnson then Lupica will claim that he never said that at all. It's just so predictable. They will make outrageous statements based on no facts and like all gamblers only count the times they won not lost to the casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaganaut Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Bottom line is Spurrier is one of those coaches that you either love or you hate... period. It's funny you mention this because I used to hate Spurrier more than any other coach in any sport. I now love him because I had no alternative. If you look at his desire to win and his brutal honesty, how can you knock the guy. He is a train wreck of emotions on the sidelines, but so what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Originally posted by RTerps2002 I don't see how you can complain until we do something on the field to prove otherwise. Every offseason we have a new coach or a new player that is supposed to make all the difference and ever year we quit on the field true..but that doesn't mean that these media guys can't make intelligent decisions instead of just B.S. this off season requires optimism completely...anyone in their right mind can see that.. Sure they can look at pas t failures but they should alos recognize a penchant for learning what caused past problems and a strong desrie to correct those mistakes.. I've had my hopes dashed the last few years but i'm very happy that I can have hopes. Some teams can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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