Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

[aREDSKIN]

and Baculus- I'm not an idiot- and thanks for continuing to "brush with a broad stroke"- all people who may disagree with Obama as Conservative Republican idiots...how about you try practicing what you preach?

Unfortunately he's been doing that for many years. It's a condition.

[Baculus]

A) I never said Bush deserved the award. Reading *IS* fundamental.

You said, "He's not Bush." Maybe you should have explained yourself further instead of leaving some snarky remark. You could have said, "Obama has continued some Bush policies, and the only difference between the two men are their names and political parties."

See, was that so hard? Oh yeah, I forgot: reading is fundamental. Got ya.

I supported a war that removed a ruthless dictator that started several wars on his own, supported terrorism on a massive scale, committed genocide against his own people and let his sons terrorize his people and torture his own Olympic team. Wow. That must make me an evil war monger.

A war that has resulted in thousands of dead Iraqis for a dictator that WE supported in past years when he served our purpose. After all, it was the CIA who HELPED Saddam gain power in the first place, as a useful proxy against the USSR. Oh wait, I forgot: That seems to have slipped down the old memory hole.

Oh, BTW, where are all the WMD? Never mind, you do not have to respond to that question.

Yeah -- go "peace," right? "We killed your people and destroyed your infrastructure to save you!"

Here is my chance to use this emote:

Sorry, but I don't buy it.

[Baculus]

Unfortunately he's been doing that for many years. It's a condition.

Doing that for years? Obama has been office for less than a year.

Oh, do you mean disagreeing with right-wingers for years? Yes, THAT I have been doing.

[StillUnknown]

and Baculus- I'm not an idiot- and thanks for continuing to "brush with a broad stroke"- all people who may disagree with Obama as Conservative Republican idiots...how about you try practicing what you preach?

the way you worded your post insinuated that all muslims hate america and they want us all dead

[Perky72]

It is easy -- I supported his efforts this year in reaching out to the Muslim world, in working with Russia to reduce nuclear arms, and in working in several regions for better relations in nations.

As I said, these are the same efforts that have earned him the dire of right-wingers. The same right-wingers who do not give a damn about "international relations." The same people who condemned him for his efforts.

The same people who are condemning him for winning this award.

I am not going to let these hypocrites make a bunch of noise without a response.

I value much more the opinion of those folks who DO value peace and the spirit of international cooperation. It is really that simple.

I value peace just fine and am a liberal, and I detest President Bush. But Obama so far has done nothing that nearly every other President hasn't done. It's absolutely laughable to say that he deserves the award over people who've devoted their lives to peace. Instead he so far has devoted the last two years to campaign promises and flowery words. I sure hope he succeeds, I voted for him and am invested in his success. He's very early in his term, learning the Washington way, and may indeed bring much of his expectations to fruition.

BUT HE HASN'T YET.

As for alternate candidates: Hu Jia, Wei Jingsheng, Piedad Cordoba, Ghazi bin Muhammed, and many others. Hell, Bono is more deserving than Obama. A random travel agent is nearly as deserving for promoting international trade. This award is way too premature, and I've been browsing many different forums. Most liberals are shocked and don't think he deserved it. Those that do tend to be the ones who NEVER, EVER admit that Obama or Democrats make mistakes or have flaws.

[Baculus]

Obviously, we have hit a nerve because this is really a undeserved award IMO. But this is private organization which can do whatever they want but the heat they are getting seems to indicate the silliness of this award is resonating with many. Figure it out.

Hit a nerve? Is that your best reply? If anything, Obama has hit a nerve in some right-wingers such as yourself.

I see you are still incapable of replying to my simple question. I will ask you for a third time: Why do YOU care about this award? I predict that, again, I will not get a response from you.

[nonniey]

I like to think that the Award stands for some extraordinary effort or achievement. I think Carter with his Camp David Accords was a great example. I think Mother Theresa was a fantastic person.

There are people out there today working against genocides or treating the effects of genocides in Africa. Certainly their efforts are more noteworthy and deserving of publicity. Obama may one day do something that the world should take note of, but to date he hasn't done anything that will have the lasting resonance that I associate with the Nobel.

His anti-proliferation treaty with Russia is great, but at this point Obama is mostly planting seeds and we oughtn't reward him until we sees what the harvest looks like or at least until anything takes root.

Carter didn't win the Nobel Prize for the Camp David Accords he won it for going to North Korea (as a Civilian) and getting the North Koreans to end their nuclear weapons program. Oh wait.

[AsburySkinsFan]

Who else would you have awarded the prize for this year?

I honestly can't say, but then I've not given it much thought other than just today when all the Right-wingers went screaming from their Fox News TV's and threw themselves into traffic over this.

And its like you say, the Right-wingers continually dismiss the international community and their opinions and then when the international community does something that the Right-wingers don't like then they are all up in arms about it. Which only leads me to believe one thing, they only like the international community's opinion when it agrees with their own.

[nonniey]

Oh sheesh. Like I would have expected a rational response from you.

It is funny how conservatives are up in arms about an international award that they usually do not care one whit about.

Hate, hate, hate.

Up in arms? Heck we're laughing about this, not up in arms. It is not the Presidents fault but the Nobel commitee didn't do Obama any favours in giving him this award and most certainly damaged the award itself (not that there was much more to damage).

[aREDSKIN]

Hit a nerve? Is that your best reply? If anything, Obama has hit a nerve in some right-wingers such as yourself.

I see you are still incapable of replying to my simple question. I will ask you for a third time: Why do YOU care about this award? I predict that, again, I will not get a response from you.

Man you are a trip see post 136 for your answer.

Here you go as to why. I guess you missed it.

:silly:

I could really care less who wins this silly award but pleas substantiate to us heathens as to WHY you think BO won it.

[AsburySkinsFan]

If he turned it down as premature, I would gain an entire new respect for this rookie executive.

You may have, but the frothing Right-wing would have only used it as an excuse to criticize the Pres for not doing more to improve America's image around the globe.

Sorry, but with the Right wing these days there is NO pleasing them...none. According to them everything Obama does is wrong and even when Obama does what they want him to do he's still wrong.

I'm sure Rush, Hannity, and Beck will have fun with this today, I hope they enjoy their news cycle, I just wish they'd actually start working to better our country and the world rather than just trying to score cheap political points. Good Lord I long for the day when our political vision can extend past the next news cycle.

[aREDSKIN]

Obama even says he doesn't deserve it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama accepts Nobel Prize

By Michael O'Brien - 10/09/09 11:20 AM ET

President Barack Obama said he will accept the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize, though he said he feels he does not deserve to share the honor with many of the award's previous recipients.

In a Rose Garden speech, the president said he was surprised and humbled by the Nobel Prize committee's decision to award him the prestigious prize, adding that it should be shared with many of the other human rights advocates across the world.

"I am both surprised and deeply humbled by the decision of the Nobel Committee," Obama said Friday. "To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of many of the transformative leaders who have received this prize."

Obama downplayed his own role in having one the prize, asserting it as more of "an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations."

In that light, the president said he would accept the prize.

"I will accept this award as a call to action; a call for all nations to confront the common actions of the 21st century," he said.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/62421-obama-accepts-nobel-prize

[rdsknbill]

I honestly can't say, but then I've not given it much thought other than just today when all the Right-wingers went screaming from their Fox News TV's and threw themselves into traffic over this.

And its like you say, the Right-wingers continually dismiss the international community and their opinions and then when the international community does something that the Right-wingers don't like then they are all up in arms about it. Which only leads me to believe one thing, they only like the international community's opinion when it agrees with their own.

Why do you insist on bringing "right wingers" into this. There are many Lsft wingers that are scratching their heads at this as well.

As usual ASF, keep it about how evil the right is in every post. :doh:

[Baculus]

I value peace just fine and am a liberal, and I detest President Bush. But Obama so far has done nothing that nearly every other President hasn't done. It's absolutely laughable to say that he deserves the award over people who've devoted their lives to peace. Instead he so far has devoted the last two years to campaign promises and flowery words. I sure hope he succeeds, I voted for him and am invested in his success. He's very early in his term, learning the Washington way, and may indeed bring much of his expectations to fruition.

BUT HE HASN'T YET.

As for alternate candidates: Hu Jia, Wei Jingsheng, Piedad Cordoba, Ghazi bin Muhammed, and many others. Hell, Bono is more deserving than Obama. A random travel agent is nearly as deserving for promoting international trade. This award is way too premature, and I've been browsing many different forums. Most liberals are shocked and don't think he deserved it. Those that do tend to be the ones who NEVER, EVER admit that Obama or Democrats make mistakes or have flaws.

I understand your position, but do you really think Piedad Cordoba should have won the award? She is a bit of a controversial figure, after reading her background. Maybe she should have, but I would probably have to read more on her.

But if these people had won the award over Obama -- then fine. Good. I just do not see the need for all the fuss, because some folks are acting as if Obama has done absolutely nothing at all, which is not true.

I just think, either way, some of us are getting bent out of shape over it. After all, all I did was agree that Obama's choice was acceptable, and people are even attacking my position over it.

[Baculus]

Why do you insist on bringing "right wingers" into this. There are many Lsft wingers that are scratching their heads at this as well.

As usual ASF, keep it about how evil the right is in every post. :doh:

Because the right-wingers have been attacking Obama for the exact reasons to why he won the award. And now they are attacking him again.

The left-wingers want to see MORE peace efforts from Obama, not less, which is the source of their criticisms. The Right are attacking Obama just to attack him-- just to call him "the One," or a narcissist, or whatever petty response they have. Or, as one right-winger joked, Obama was only chosen due to "affirmative action."

[aREDSKIN]

I just think, either way, some of us are getting bent out of shape over it. After all, all I did was agree that Obama's choice was acceptable, and people are even attacking my position over it.

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

LOL

[JdoubleU]

...I'd also like to thank the previous administration for this award. If not for their hard work, none of this would be possible...

[Burgold]

Carter didn't win the Nobel Prize for the Camp David Accords he won it for going to North Korea (as a Civilian) and getting the North Koreans to end their nuclear weapons program. Oh wait.

Did he win two then? I could have sworn that Carter won one for brokering the Egypt/Israeli Peace deal?

...Or maybe I just tied the two up in my head.

[rdsknbill]

I value peace just fine and am a liberal, and I detest President Bush. But Obama so far has done nothing that nearly every other President hasn't done. It's absolutely laughable to say that he deserves the award over people who've devoted their lives to peace. Instead he so far has devoted the last two years to campaign promises and flowery words. I sure hope he succeeds, I voted for him and am invested in his success. He's very early in his term, learning the Washington way, and may indeed bring much of his expectations to fruition.

BUT HE HASN'T YET.

Well said but......

Be Careful. If you make entirely too much sense, the blind idol worshipers will start questioning your moral fiber and your mother's choice of footwear

[@DCGoldPants]

Looks like Obama just took advantage of the outrage, and flipped it in his favor.

He plays humble..."I don't deserve it".

Rush is probably already out there bashing it.

GOP is melting down.

Obama doesn't need to really do anything else. Let the circled wagons fire on themselves again.

No wonder his approvals are climbing back up again.

[Baculus]

Man you are a trip see post 136 for your answer.

Here you go as to why. I guess you missed it.

And I will say again: Rubbish. Your response demonstrates that either 1) you DO care, which means you are not being honest, or 2) you are only making responses to attack the President.

Either way, your position is purely political, which is typical of the responses from some on the Right.

[Baculus]

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

LOL

You are prime example number one.

"I DON'T CARE ABOUT THIS AWARD, BUT I KEEP MAKING POST WHINING ABOUT OBAMA WINNING!!!!!!!! WAAAAAHHH!"

Oh, the irony.

[nonniey]

Dumbest thing the GOP can do, is go with the outrage bit.

They should have just ignored it. Let it simmer for a week...and moved on.

Now you have them cheering when the US didn't get the Olympics, and booing when the American President gets a Nobel Peace Prize.

Except I think they have decided to go with the humur bit. They are laughing about it. Which actually is the best thing they could have done.

[Mad Mike]

You said, "He's not Bush." Maybe you should have explained yourself further instead of leaving some snarky remark. You could have said, "Obama has continued some Bush policies, and the only difference between the two men are their names and political parties."

See, was that so hard? Oh yeah, I forgot: reading is fundamental. Got ya.

I said they gave Obama the award because he is not Bush. Meaning they don't like Bush and they are just happy Obama is president.

See? Reading really *IS* fundamental. :doh:

A war that has resulted in thousands of dead Iraqis for a dictator that WE supported in past years when he served our purpose. After all, it was the CIA who HELPED Saddam gain power in the first place, as a useful proxy against the USSR. Oh wait, I forgot: That seems to have slipped down the old memory hole.

Oh, BTW, where are all the WMD? Never mind, you do not have to respond to that question.

Yeah -- go "peace," right? "We killed your people and destroyed your infrastructure to save you!"

Here is my chance to use this emote:

Sorry, but I don't buy it.

I dont give a damn about the WMD. considering his CONFIRMED ties to terrorism and his hatred for America. I would rather err on the side of caution. And I damn sure AM aware that we supported Saddam in the beginning. Which is exactly why we had a responsibility to clean up our mess.

By some estimates Saddam was responsible for over two million deaths. How many more would have died and suffered had he been left in power. How many more would have died and suffered under his sons after he was gone? How many decades would the horror have gone on?

Given the choice between two tough futures, I chose the one that gives hope for freedom from oppression for the Iraqi people. You support the one that leaves the evil dictator in power. Which of us is worse?

With that I'm going to leave this thread before the stupidity of your comments starts bringing out the worst in me. Have fun in La La land.

[Stadium-Armory]

Whether he deserves it or not, don't hate on OBama just because he got an award. What should he do, decline it? Hate on the Nobel committee for whatever it is that you think is wrong with his winning the award.