PokerPacker Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Have you been ignoring the news over the last eight months? you wanna be specific and tell me what he's done, since apparently its obvious that what he's done to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadium-Armory Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 At first I was going to say its a ****ing joke that they gave it to him for doing absolutely nothing. But then I remembered that Arafat, Jimmy Carter and Al Gore are also recipients. So Obama is in good company for receiving the award and having done jack **** to deserve it. If nothing else, you've (I think) put the blame (if there is blame) in the right place. Its not with Obama, its with the committee who hands out the award. I think you're saying the Nobel peace prize is a jack **** award, and to that, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Here's another angle on it. Ok, so maybe he hasn't cured cancer, or built a time travel machine. And maybe he's getting the award for nothing more than being nice to the europeans. But what does that tell you? The rest of the world was so bent out of shape from the unilateralism of the last 8 years, that they're willing to give this guy Nobel just for being nice to them. Its a sign of how bad relations where, and what he's doing to improve them. If that really is the case then they should start handing out Nobel science and lit prizes to kids that are fresh from college simply due to the promise of what they could do. Nobel peace prizes have been a popularity contest for years, this simply drives the final nail in any legitimacy it ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 If nothing else, you've (I think) put the blame (if there is blame) in the right place. Its not with Obama, its with the committee who hands out the award. I think you're saying the Nobel peace prize is a jack **** award, and to that, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Again, what has he done to deserve this? Same question asked here by the AP: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091009/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_nobel_analysis_1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 At first I was going to say its a ****ing joke that they gave it to him for doing absolutely nothing. But then I remembered that Arafat, Jimmy Carter and Al Gore are also recipients. So Obama is in good company for receiving the award and having done jack **** to deserve it. okay, insult Al Gore and Arafat and that's fine, but Jimmy Carter didn't win it for what he did as President. He got it because of all the humanitarian work he does since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 huh ? The only people getting all up in arms are the ones who don't like anyone questioning why Obama got this. I'm not a right winger, but nice to lump anyone who questions Obama into one category. Hell, even several self proclaimed liberals on this board are baffeled at this award. What do you say about them? What a silly response. No one is suggesting that Obama cannot be questioned, and I fail to see why you are making this point. What some of us do not like are those people who criticized Obama for his international ventures now criticizing the Nobel Price committee for awarding Obama this prize for those exact venture. You just do not seem to get it, do you? Nice when someone has a legitimate question the response is "You're just a hate filled Right wing conservative." When did someone say that to you? Please demonstrate evidence. P.S. You have made this claim more than once, and yet, you have yet to show where someone attacked you personally. I think you are being a little thin skinned, if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadium-Armory Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 This entire thing. And all the other meaninless, petty bull****ting around all boil down to one thing. And I'll put it in to terms that your can understand: Don't hate the player, hate the game. You're happy we didn't win the olympics? You're mad that our President won the Nobel Peace Prize? Seriously, you hate America that much? No, of course you don't, you just hate the popular kid in school. You can't stand that all the girls like him. You can't stand that he's taller than you. You can't stand that he gets good grades. Get over your inferiority complex you petty 12 year old. And get back to what matters. There are plenty of issues which he needs to be challenged on. Real issues. Health care, the economy, the war. Take aim at the real stuff, not this petty 8th grade school yard crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 you wanna be specific and tell me what he's done, since apparently its obvious that what he's done to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize? Go back a few pages and read, or catch up on foreign affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljs Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Per Adam Schefters Twitter- "Surprised MC Hammer didn't win the Nobel Peace prize after bringing 49ers and Michael Crabtree together." (it was a retweet) Baculus- anytime someone disagrees with you, all you do is say, -you don't know anything, you don't get it :blahblah:- all you do is rip at people, get angry and say they are stupid. I feel sorry that you are such a grumpy angry person. I hope life gets better for you.(or maybe you just need to get laid:whoknows:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadium-Armory Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Again, what has he done to deserve this?Same question asked here by the AP: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091009/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_nobel_analysis_1 You could argue that he has done a good bit to re-engage the international community while in office (and even between the election and the innauguration). It matters to the Europeans -- big time. They want to be respected, and he gives it to them. He turned back the unilateralism taht defined that last 8 yeas. Right or wrong, they view that as a big step, and have given him this award as recognition of it. I dont' see this as being particularly complicated or hard to undersatand. The Nobel peace prize isn't always given to someone who cures a diesase or invents something. Futhermore. Even if you minimize what he's done to re-engage the international community (and I don't disagree that its sort of nebulous and not tangible). What does that tell you? Its a sign of how bad relations were, and how much it matters to the rest of the world -- how we engage them. Its a big deal. And to give this guy a Nobel just for being nice to them, is a sign of how bad things were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsknbill Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Baculus- anytime someone disagrees with you, all you do is say, -you don't know anything, you don't get it :blahblah:- all you do is rip at people, get angry and say they are stupid. I feel sorry that you are such a grumpy angry person. I hope life gets better for you.(or maybe you just need to get laid:whoknows:) :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Close thread.!!!!! :rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 What a silly response. No one is suggesting that Obama cannot be questioned, and I fail to see why you are making this point. What some of us do not like are those people who criticized Obama for his international ventures now criticizing the Nobel Price committee for awarding Obama this prize for those exact venture. What ventures again? He was nominated when he was in office a grand total of 2 months! What ventures had he accomplished again? You should not win a Nobel for suggesting an international venture. You should be required to implement the venture. T Boone Pickens should win a Nobel for his clean energy ideas if this is the criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 This entire thing. And all the other meaninless, petty bull****ting around all boil down to one thing. And I'll put it in to terms that your can understand:Don't hate the player, hate the game. You're happy we didn't win the olympics? You're mad that our President won the Nobel Peace Prize? Seriously, you hate America that much? No, of course you don't, you just hate the popular kid in school. You can't stand that all the girls like him. You can't stand that he's taller than you. You can't stand that he gets good grades. Get over your inferiority complex you petty 12 year old. And get back to what matters. There are plenty of issues which he needs to be challenged on. Real issues. Health care, the economy, the war. Take aim at the real stuff, not this petty 8th grade school yard crap. Boom goes the dynamite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 12th Commandment Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 So you are proud of an accomplishment you do not feel the recipient has earned (yet). Interesting. I wonder what your pride is then based upon. It's a high honor given to us by others without our asking for it. That's what my pride is based on, as should any patriotic American. Was it too early, I thought so but I'm not on the committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Per Adam Schefters Twitter- "Surprised MC Hammer didn't win the Nobel Peace prize after bringing 49ers and Michael Crabtree together." (it was a retweet)Baculus- anytime someone disagrees with you, all you do is say, -you don't know anything, you don't get it :blahblah:- all you do is rip at people, get angry and say they are stupid. I feel sorry that you are such a grumpy angry person. I hope life gets better for you.(or maybe you just need to get laid:whoknows:) Oh baloney. In a previous post you said that I called anyone who disagreed with Obama a "hate filled Right wing conservative." I asked for evidence of this and you cannot provide it. Now you are saying that "anytime someone disagrees with you, all you do is say, -you don't know anything, you don't get it." I ask again: Demonstrate where I use this as a stock response to people. I am waiting. BTW, I certainly do believe that some of Obama's opponents hate him. This is not surprising, because "hate" becomes a common emotion in politics. Our last president was certainly a hated figure in some circles. If anyone sounds grumpy or angry, it is you. Affer all, whenever someone brings one's sex life, or lack of it, into an argument, you know they are running out of valid responses. Apparently you cannot debate this on the merits on your own argument. So be it. BTW, does this make me seem cheerier and peppier? :):):) There we go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 12th Commandment Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 huh ? The only people getting all up in arms are the ones who don't like anyone questioning why Obama got this. I'm not a right winger, but nice to lump anyone who questions Obama into one category. Hell, even several self proclaimed liberals on this board are baffeled at this award. What do you say about them? Nice when someone has a legitimate question the response is "You're just a hate filled Right wing conservative." Were you being sarcastic in your first response to that post? I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 you wanna be specific and tell me what he's done, since apparently its obvious that what he's done to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize? well he had really, really great intentions. That seems to be enough to edge out actual results in the award process these days. yay for intentions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 What ventures again? He was nominated when he was in office a grand total of 2 months! What ventures had he accomplished again? You should not win a Nobel for suggesting an international venture. You should be required to implement the venture. T Boone Pickens should win a Nobel for his clean energy ideas if this is the criteria. As I said before, if Obama was nominated for a scant two months of his presidency, then he does not deserve it. Otherwise, his "initiatives to reduce nuclear arms, ease tensions with the Muslim world and stress diplomacy and cooperation rather than unilateralism" has been provided for the reasons of his nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:Close thread.!!!!! :rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao: Wow. Some folks are easily amused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 As I said before, if Obama was nominated for a scant two months of his presidency, then he does not deserve it. Otherwise, his "initiatives to reduce nuclear arms, ease tensions with the Muslim world and stress diplomacy and cooperation rather than unilateralism" has been provided for the reasons of his nomination. In reality it was a scant 11 days (maybe 12 depending on the time of submission) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 You could argue that he has done a good bit to re-engage the international community while in office (and even between the election and the innauguration). It matters to the Europeans -- big time. They want to be respected, and he gives it to them. He turned back the unilateralism taht defined that last 8 yeas. Right or wrong, they view that as a big step, and have given him this award as recognition of it. I dont' see this as being particularly complicated or hard to undersatand. The Nobel peace prize isn't always given to someone who cures a diesase or invents something. Futhermore. Even if you minimize what he's done to re-engage the international community (and I don't disagree that its sort of nebulous and not tangible). What does that tell you? Its a sign of how bad relations were, and how much it matters to the rest of the world -- how we engage them. Its a big deal. And to give this guy a Nobel just for being nice to them, is a sign of how bad things were. A good post with some points that people are entirely missing,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Have you been ignoring the news over the last eight months? He was awarded the prize for what he did during his first 11 days but like I said earlier for a Nobel Peace prize that is enough. $1.4 mil is nice the have but getting a Nobel Peace prize isn't really anything I'd brag about (Hasn't been for a long time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 In reality it was a scant 11 days (maybe 12 depending on the time of submission) I still have to see evidence behind the committees decision making process, between now and then. Here is the thing: the uproar from many people is not based upon this. If anything, it is the factor that Obama won. Period. Similar to the applause on the Right when Obama tried to secure the Olympics for Chicago and failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Perky72 brings a welcome personality and intellect here! Welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 He was awarded the prize for what he did during his first 11 days but like I said earlier for a Nobel Peace prize that is enough. $1.4 mil is nice the have but getting a Nobel Peace prize isn't really anything I'd brag about (Hasn't been for a long time). If winning the prize wasn't noteworthy, then this wouldn't be a topic of discussion, nor would any of us even discuss this news event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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