Veretax Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 The NFL is already king of the Mtn. Rush Limbaugh isn't going to prevent a blackout in that market. The NFL has the best ratings, and the best product. There is no upside to the Owners even taking him seriously. Doesn't mean they don't let some folks own teams who shouldn't (cough cough). But we've seen them turn down bids before. Milstein for example. The owners can make up any excuse why. They could say "yeah, he's a cash cow now, but who knows? Radio isn't stable....blah blah blah" On the topic of the economy. There are only 32 franchises. Even the worst NFL teams will find a buyer. Maybe they want to relocate. But, whatever. Miami needed loot, they turned it into Celebrity Funhouse down there. St. Louis will get sold. Let me correct something that may have been inferred. I was not saying limbaugh being at the games would bring ratings. But people do watch him when he is on TV in large numbers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue collar Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 This would be the worst thing for the league and especially Rams fans. I bet you a lot of "black" free agents will have trouble signing with a team headed by a racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 This would be the worst thing for the league and especially Rams fans. I bet you a lot of "black" free agents will have trouble signing with a team headed by a racist. I can almost promise you that if the money was there, those "black" (why the quotes, I'm curious) free agents would sign with a team owned by the Klan itself. The number might have to be over $100 million/year, but money is quite influential, I assure you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsunoles0021 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I can almost promise you that if the money was there, those "black" (why the quotes, I'm curious) free agents would sign with a team owned by the Klan itself. The number might have to be over $100 million/year, but money is quite influential, I assure you. I was wondering about the quotes myself lol. What's with that? Limbaugh=KING. He knows what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I feel like sharing my puns with the class: This could actually make the Rams interesting again. Just imagine - they could run a single-right-wing offense. Jumping offsides would become "Illegally Immigrating Into the Backfield." Rush could sign nothing but Iranian receivers so they would be the targets of all of Marc Bulger's long bombs. The street value of Oxycodone would determine signing bonuses. Any coach who didn't like the shotgun formation would be accused of not believing in Second Amendment rights. The possibilities are endless. Why the hell hasn't the NFL already made this happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I feel like sharing my puns with the class: :rotflmao: Those are hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRagone Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Alright, I'll actually try and stay away from politics here but add some substantial thought. First, in regards to his intelligence. I'll focus on the only kind that matters in this case, his business and professional intelligence. This is a man who, even his largest critics, will generally recognize as both the man that essentially kept A.M. radio from completely and utterly dieing while also being recognized as easily one of the top 5, if not number 1, most successful radio host of all time of any format. He took a format that was essentially a fledgling local thing in political talk radio and turned it into his most recent 8 year, 400 million dollar contract. His ability at promoting himself and generating interest has landed him one of the most ratings successful shows in the country. Talk all you want to his formal education, or political education, but as a businessman at this point it'd be hard to call him an idiot. Second, in regards to the NFL not "allowing" him and not "needing" him, and potential black outs. The notion of people not wanting him to be allowed in, as even a radio host here in DC I believe made the argument for earlier this year, is asinine. This is doubly so when the same people at times were talking about how Michael Vick had a "right" to play and not be black balled. The St. Louis Rams is a business, as is the NFL. Its their right to reject his bid if they wish, but they would also be fully within their rights and correct to allow it as well. As far as needing him, you're right, the NFL doesn't need him. The NFL doesn't need any particular type of owner. However, I think its ludicrous to think the NFL will honestly be "damaged" by it. I dare say there were points in recent memory when Michael Vick and Packman Jones both had unfavorable ratings leagues worse what Rush Limbaugh's was, and yet the NFL didn't explode and have people leave in droves because they were involved in it. Hell, look at how beloved Ray Lewis is in B-more. Rush isn't going to send any fans save for perhaps a few "light" ones away from the game, of which could arguably be a net wash by those he may bring into it. Third, Rush is a football fan and a sports fan in general, having even got his start in sports I believe. He's long been a fan of what could arguably be the greatest ran franchise of all time, in any sport, of the modern era in the Pittsburgh Steelers. I have a feeling he'd be the type of owner that'd help with the money, show up to events, and happily watch the game from his owners box with a cigar in his mouth. And if that's the case, I'd take him 10 times out of 10 over an Al Davis or Dan Snydder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 :rotflmao: Those are hilarious. I do what I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LApunkrocker72 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Though I hail from Southern California, I was never a fan of the Rams (even during their LA years). If Rush were to end up as the Rams' owner, it would give me yet another reason to hate the Rams. If Rush were to ever own the Redskins, I would stop rooting for them immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perky72 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 If Rush were to ever own the Redskins, I would stop rooting for them immediately. Me too, unless I liked them better than the other team. I can't see this possibly happening though, Limbaugh is such a polarizing figure and comes with way too much past and possibly future controversy for the NFL to give him a team. I don't like the idea of any such figures being team owners, even if I happen to agree with their political stance. Some other examples, if they wanted to own a team: Michael Moore Richard Dawkins Fred Phelps Jane Fonda Ann Coulter I imagine people here would have a problem with at least one of these people being an owner of the Redskins. I'd have a problem with all of them. And I see no difference between them and Limbaugh. Good luck Rams fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HA1LV1CT0RY Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Alright, I'll actually try and stay away from politics here but add some substantial thought.First, in regards to his intelligence. I'll focus on the only kind that matters in this case, his business and professional intelligence. This is a man who, even his largest critics, will generally recognize as both the man that essentially kept A.M. radio from completely and utterly dieing while also being recognized as easily one of the top 5, if not number 1, most successful radio host of all time of any format. He took a format that was essentially a fledgling local thing in political talk radio and turned it into his most recent 8 year, 400 million dollar contract. His ability at promoting himself and generating interest has landed him one of the most ratings successful shows in the country. Talk all you want to his formal education, or political education, but as a businessman at this point it'd be hard to call him an idiot. Second, in regards to the NFL not "allowing" him and not "needing" him, and potential black outs. The notion of people not wanting him to be allowed in, as even a radio host here in DC I believe made the argument for earlier this year, is asinine. This is doubly so when the same people at times were talking about how Michael Vick had a "right" to play and not be black balled. The St. Louis Rams is a business, as is the NFL. Its their right to reject his bid if they wish, but they would also be fully within their rights and correct to allow it as well. As far as needing him, you're right, the NFL doesn't need him. The NFL doesn't need any particular type of owner. However, I think its ludicrous to think the NFL will honestly be "damaged" by it. I dare say there were points in recent memory when Michael Vick and Packman Jones both had unfavorable ratings leagues worse what Rush Limbaugh's was, and yet the NFL didn't explode and have people leave in droves because they were involved in it. Hell, look at how beloved Ray Lewis is in B-more. Rush isn't going to send any fans save for perhaps a few "light" ones away from the game, of which could arguably be a net wash by those he may bring into it. Third, Rush is a football fan and a sports fan in general, having even got his start in sports I believe. He's long been a fan of what could arguably be the greatest ran franchise of all time, in any sport, of the modern era in the Pittsburgh Steelers. I have a feeling he'd be the type of owner that'd help with the money, show up to events, and happily watch the game from his owners box with a cigar in his mouth. And if that's the case, I'd take him 10 times out of 10 over an Al Davis or Dan Snydder Thank you, took the words right out of my mouth. The one and only thing that would bother me is if I were a Rams fan. Knowing that he is a lifelong Pittsburgh fan wouldn't bode with me so well, but thank god I'm not. I know it's hard for everyone to accept the fact that Rush is a human too, but it's the truth. This reminds me alot about Plato's Apology, appearances and truth.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Thank you, took the words right out of my mouth. The one and only thing that would bother me is if I were a Rams fan. Knowing that he is a lifelong Pittsburgh fan wouldn't bode with me so well, but thank god I'm not. I know it's hard for everyone to accept the fact that Rush is a human too, but it's the truth. This reminds me alot about Plato's Apology, appearances and truth.... One thing about St. LOUIS RAMS fans, they have only existed since 1995 or 1996 when their late owner moved them from Los Angeles. Even the old Cardinals weren't originally from St. Louis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Though I hail from Southern California, I was never a fan of the Rams (even during their LA years). If Rush were to end up as the Rams' owner, it would give me yet another reason to hate the Rams.If Rush were to ever own the Redskins, I would stop rooting for them immediately. Then you are not a fan of the Redskins. I'll root for Redskins regardless of who owns the team. My fandom is to the team not the owner or his bug eyed puppet Vinny Cerrato or his clueless head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perky72 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Then you are not a fan of the Redskins. I'll root for Redskins regardless of who owns the team. My fandom is to the team not the owner or his bug eyed puppet Vinny Cerrato or his clueless head coach. So if Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was booted out of Iran, settled in the US, and bought the Redskins you'd still be a fan? Insert any name of any human in his place--there's no one in the world who would make you stop being a Redskins fan if they were the owner? Anyone from the past--Hitler, Idi Amin, Jeffrey Dahmer, etc.? Not trying to trap you, I'm honestly curious of where we differ. I couldn't support a team that was owned by someone I absolutely despise. Well, despise for more serious reasons than "he's a terrible owner". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I can almost promise you that if the money was there, those "black" (why the quotes, I'm curious) free agents would sign with a team owned by the Klan itself. The number might have to be over $100 million/year, but money is quite influential, I assure you. Most professional athletes, black or white, tend to be Republicans. It's a money thing. I remember before this past election, Gilbert Arenas was on his blog debating whether to support Obama because he knew his taxes would go up more with him than under McCain. (Chris Paul the basketball player then blasted him on his own blog and got Gil to support Obama.) I'm not sure how claims of racism would play into all of that though. I doubt very much in this specific case. If Limbaugh is a racist (and I think he is but that's a back-and-forth, endless BS debate I don't feel like having) it's very nuanced. It's not like he's running around dropping n-bombs, wishing Jackie Robinson had been aborted or some other ugly, despicable trash. So while I think the Klan would be a no go, you're right about Limbaugh. There might be some freak occurence where a social-activist player steps up, but other than that I don't think Limbaugh owning the team makes one iota of difference when it comes to acquiring free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Limbaugh is a racist pig and drug addict who loves to spread fear and hateHe is the Real terrorist. Hey this also get's him closer to some real good pain killers.. Yeah sure he is a racist aren't all conservatives? :doh: And what part of McNabb was being hyped by the media to succeed because they wanted a black QB to succeed is racist? The brotha on MNF with Rush at the time agreed with him and until the PC police ot a hold of him later in the week. And people conveniently ignored the pro McNabb news articles Rush pointed out supporting his opinion. Heck I have to check myself to make sure my support for Campbell isn't because he shares my golden tan and that I want him to succeed with the skins which is why I do. Hooked on pain killers prescribed by doctors after using them trying to rid oneself with chronic nerve pain in the inner ear or other areas is not the same as using cocaine, crack, meth weed, love boat, acid, etc. Liberals don't know the definition of Terrorist/ terrorism. Nowadays its overseas contingency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue collar Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Then you are not a fan of the Redskins. I'll root for Redskins regardless of who owns the team. My fandom is to the team not the owner or his bug eyed puppet Vinny Cerrato or his clueless head coach. I wouldn't root for them either if he became owner. I don't care what anyone says, that man is a racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HA1LV1CT0RY Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I wouldn't root for them either if he became owner. I don't care what anyone says, that man is a racist. How is he racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue collar Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 How is he racist? Just because one doesn't go around using the n-word doesn't mean he's not racist. You can just listen to him and tell that he do not like blacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 This would be the worst thing for the league and especially Rams fans. I bet you a lot of "black" free agents will have trouble signing with a team headed by a racist. Since you didn't answer before, I'll ask again: Why did you put black in quotation marks? It seems a bit odd, especially if you're going to be calling somebody else a racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAAZ227 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue collar Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Since you didn't answer before, I'll ask again: Why did you put black in quotation marks? It seems a bit odd, especially if you're going to be calling somebody else a racist. What's your agenda since you can't seem to get over it? But anyway, I feel that with Limbaugh as owner, they will have a hard time signing a lot of black players. White players on the otherhand, probably won't have any problem working for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/2009/10/09/2009-10-09_black_nfl_players_crush_prospect_of_playing_for_a_rush_limbaughowned_st_louis_ra.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Just because one doesn't go around using the n-word doesn't mean he's not racist. You can just listen to him and tell that he do not like blacks. His right hand man on his show is black. When he goes on vacation he often turns the keys to his multimillion dollar talk show over to a Walter Williams. Clarence Thomas is a good friend of his. He is not PC thats for sure but to say he hates blacks is a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 His right hand man on his show is black. When he goes on vacation he often turns the keys to his multimillion dollar talk show over to a Walter Williams. Clarence Thomas is a good friend of his. He is not PC thats for sure but to say he hates blacks is a stretch. Is that what the NFL will use to agents and players who decide that staying away from the Rams is just good business because of Rush? He won't get this team. The NFL has plenty of folks who want to own a team, that don't come with the baggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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