bornzorn Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4533731 EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Eli Manning is going to have to play in pain if he wants to continue as the New York Giants quarterback. Manning was diagnosed with inflamed tissue in his right foot late Monday following an MRI at the Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan. It's a problem that usually develops over time and lingers. ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen first reported the diagnosis. Team physician Russell Warren told Manning he could play this weekend against the Oakland Raiders if he could tolerate the pain. "It's not as serious an injury as [the doctor] has seen before, where it's the whole foot that's hurting," Manning said in an interview on ESPN Radio in New York. "It's just kind of a portion of it." The Giants (4-0) have listed Manning as day to day with the plantar fasciitis, which has caused soreness and swelling in the heel and arch area on the bottom of his foot. Dr. Steven Weinfeld, chief of foot and ankle surgery from Mount Sinai's Department of Orthopaedics in New York City, said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press that the injury could be treated by taping the foot, stretching, cushioning the area and using ibuprofen or any anti-inflammatory medicine . He said cortisone injections also can help. The past 24 hours have been a scary time for Giants faithful, knowing an injury could suddenly elevate veteran David Carr to the starting job this weekend against Oakland, and a serious injury could crush hopes of another championship run. Manning, who has thrown for 1,039 yards, eight touchdowns and two interceptions this season, was hurt early in the fourth quarter in a non-contact injury in New York's 27-16 win over the Chiefs in Kansas City. The MVP of the Super Bowl in February 2008 made a fake on play-action and went back to throw. As he planted his right foot, he suddenly hopped as if he had stepped in a divot or something popped. He threw an incomplete pass to Steve Smith seconds later. The play reminded many of the season-ending Achilles tendon injury former Jets quarterback Vinny Testaverde suffered at the start of the 1999 season. "Of the things it could have been, it's one of the better ones," Weinfeld said of the diagnosis. While the words were comforting, so was the sight of Manning standing in front of his locker earlier in the afternoon with neither a boot, a crutch or much evidence of heavy tape on his right foot. The only obvious sign of an injury was a slight limp when he walked away. "Yeah, that's all positive stuff," Manning said. "I think it's just time and ice and some treatment here and at home, kind of nonstop everything for the next couple of days. My goal is by Wednesday to be practicing and get out there and not being restricted." Manning admittedly was concerned about his Achilles tendon briefly after his incomplete pass to Smith. He threw a touchdown pass to rookie Hakeem Nicks on the next play and then spent the rest of the game on the bench. "I knew what it was," Manning said. "I knew it was the bottom of my foot, my heel area. I could walk around a little bit. It was good that we got a touchdown on that play, kind of gave ourselves a pretty good lead at the time." Manning, who has started 82 consecutive games, still had some swelling and soreness Monday morning. He got ice and stimulation treatment and went through his strength program before attending meetings and talking to the media. "It doesn't feel any worse today than it did yesterday, which is a good sign," Manning said. "Hopefully, it just gets better every day." Manning has played through pain. He injured the A-C joint in his right shoulder in a game against Dallas early in 2007 and came back the following weekend to play against Green Bay. "The last time, with the shoulder, [the doctor] said I'd be out a month and I played the next week," Manning said, noting Warren told him this time it's just a matter of how fast can he heal. Coughlin said Manning is one of those players who wants to be out there with his teammates. "I am not worried about him," guard Rich Seubert said. "A couple of years ago, he had the shoulder or whatever it was and he was fine and didn't miss anything. Then I let [browns nose tackle] Shaun Rogers fall on him last year. He's a tough kid. I know on Sunday he will be out there playing with us." Carr, the No. 1 pick overall by Houston in the 2002 draft and a veteran of 79 NFL starts, is ready just in case. "I have done this before, it's not my first rodeo," Carr said. "I have a great team around me, that's the biggest thing. I think we have the best offensive line in football and throwing to some young receivers that are really excited to play, exciting to watch, exciting to throw to. I got a chance to throw to them a little bit in preseason and every day in practice, so it should be exciting. We have a good football team. I just have to go in and do my job." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 he will play. the mannings are machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgun88 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 meh. nothing a few local anestesia shots cant solve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike21 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 meh. nothing a few local anestesia shots cant solve. And they will work but he has to be careful not to be too overconfident in his foot and really injure it to the point where he can't play after the numbness wears off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinalBeast Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 He'll play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Eh, the Giants play Oakland at home next week. I expect a heavy dose of Jacobs against that D. That injury is a little easier on QBs than on RB, WRs or CBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 meh. nothing a few local anestesia shots cant solve. Well, I wouldn't go that far. The cortisone shots help but only if you actually get rest on it. Also, cortisone weakens the tissue. I'm not aware of how much they advise anesthesia for that kind of problem. I do know it will get worse unless you treat it/get rest. It won't go away, most likely until the offseason. Then again, I've had it since 2004! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I don't know if there is a difference but this sounds a little better: Giants | More on Manning injury Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:58:47 -0700 Updating an ongoing story, Ralph Vacchiano, of the New York Daily News, reports the New York Giants are saying QB Eli Manning (foot) has a plantar fascia injury and not plantar fasciitis. Manning is still considered day-to-day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 NY press is into drama. This is a non-story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 ;6849929']I don't know if there is a difference but this sounds a little better:Giants | More on Manning injury Mon' date=' 05 Oct 2009 15:58:47 -0700 Updating an ongoing story, Ralph Vacchiano, of the New York Daily News, reports the New York Giants are saying QB Eli Manning (foot) has a plantar fascia injury and not plantar fasciitis. Manning is still considered day-to-day.[/quote'] I don't know much about medicine, but I do know that "itis" means "inflamation of," so if it's not swollen, then it's gotta be easier to manage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALEOVECHKIN Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Plantar facitis is way worse. I remember Tim Duncan of the NBA's Spurs had that injury and he looked like a different person in just the way he ran and the surgery keeps you out for a solid 3 months. Obviously the Vacchiano update is way better for the Giants and Eli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Plantar Fasciitis is nothing to laugh at, its extremely painful. That being said, he'll play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Ouch. On the one hand, even though it has zero effect on the 'Skins, I'd be happy if Manning missed time and affected the Giants. On the other, I wouldn't wish that **** on the dude. Getting that foot straight again will be one painful SOB process. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissU28 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 He better play. He's my backup qb for my bye week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I don't know much about medicine, but I do know that "itis" means "inflamation of," so if it's not swollen, then it's gotta be easier to manage. I was told by a doctor that by taking multiple injections (I've only had two) of cortisone in my foot (yeah, they put the needle in their and insert it into the side, big long needle in your foot yay!) I could weaken the tissue and I could have a rupture. A rupture, she told me, would be EXTREMELY painful but that once that subsided my plantar fasciitis would be gone. I've sometimes hoped I'd have an outright rupture but if Manning had a rupture I doubt he'd have continued playing without getting a shot right after it happened. So I don't know what kind of "injury" you could have there, it's a connective tissue but it doesn't do much in an active sense like a ligament or tendon. So usually it's either an inflammation or a tear/rupture. Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spear Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 A rupture, she told me, would be EXTREMELY painful but that once that subsided my plantar fasciitis would be gone. Didn't Joe Salave'a manually rupture his plantar fascia back in 2005 to cure his plantar fasciitis and get back on the field during the playoffs? "Self surgery", heh. That dude was tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointyfootball Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I was told by a doctor that by taking multiple injections (I've only had two) of cortisone in my foot (yeah, they put the needle in their and insert it into the side, big long needle in your foot yay!) I could weaken the tissue and I could have a rupture. I've had separated shoulders, knee/ankle sprains, torn meniscus, blown-out ACL, and PF was the most painful/long-lasting injury I've had. Lasted over a year and would only subside with cortisone (I had two). Had to stretch 4-5 times a day, inserts, you name it until I finally got over it. Really sucked. But, not had a problem in 2 years so..there is hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockeryfan Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Didn't Joe Salave'a manually rupture his plantar fascia back in 2005 to cure his plantar fasciitis and get back on the field during the playoffs? "Self surgery", heh. That dude was tough. Yes, he did. They can't just jam a needle in the foot and be done with it. He'll injure himself and not even know it. Also, have you ever tried to plant on a numb foot? He's going to have to play through the pain, and it will affect his play for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointyfootball Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Yes, he did.They can't just jam a needle in the foot and be done with it. He'll injure himself and not even know it. Also, have you ever tried to plant on a numb foot? He's going to have to play through the pain, and it will affect his play for sure. Actually, when I had it, a cortisone shot took care of it for a few weeks. Assuming he has same type of injury/pain I had. Foot wasn't numb, just didn't hurt for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blue Joe Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Yes, he did.They can't just jam a needle in the foot and be done with it. He'll injure himself and not even know it. Also, have you ever tried to plant on a numb foot? Manning has already been told by his doctors that playing on the foot won't subject him to further injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockeryfan Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Manning has already been told by his doctors that playing on the foot won't subject him to further injury Playing with pain will not. Playing with a numbed up foot can and will most likely cause a different injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blue Joe Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Eli practiced today, so he'll probably start on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 and MRI image on his foot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornzorn Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 Well, he played. But it looks like they won't even need him for the 2nd half. 31 first half points by the Giants, good grief :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blue Joe Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 And a 158.3 QBR. Imagine how good he would have played if he weren't battling an injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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