Toe Jam Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 http://blog.redskins.com/2009/09/28/yes-the-redskins-players-are-aware-of-the-teams-problems/#continued If you believe that admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery, then today's open locker room was absolutely full of recovering football players. For just about every problem that has been brought up about the loss to the Lions and the team's play in general, there was a player somewhere explaining to a microphone just how aware they were of that problem. Think the team lacks a clearly-defined character? Carlos Rogers is right there with you: "I think the team itself is ... we don't know where we at," he said. "We don't have an identity. I don't know what we want to be on offense, I don't know what we want to be on defense. Until we establish ourselves as a whole group; [then] I think it's gonna work out better for everybody." (Rogers also noted that his ankle is "still swollen, still hurtin'," but expects to play Sunday.) Or maybe you're convinced that the team just doesn't execute properly; then you'd want to listen to Chris Cooley. "We're just not consistent enough throughout the game," Cooley said. "We show the ability to make big plays; we show the ability to make NORMAL plays. Our problem is that we don't execute every time, we put ourselves in bad situations. A couple penalties, sacks, a couple runs for negative yards, and those are things that really hurt us offensively." Perhaps you're one of the ones who likes to emphasize that the Redskins don't seem to play with any sense of urgency, a sentiment that DeAngelo Hall agrees with. "I don't think we came out from start to finish with that same sense of urgency," Hall said. "Had we come out with the same sense of urgency that we played with toward the end, at least offensively, I felt like, you know, we'd've scored more points. Defensively, we'd'a got off the field more. So I don't think we played the whole game with a sense of urgency. At times you saw it, but it can't be something that flickers on and off. It has to be a continual thing that keeps going." Hall would also agree with you if you pointed out a lack of big plays on both sides of the ball. "We've just gotta make plays. As a defense we haven't made plays, haven't given our offense the ball like we talked about all preseason, you know? Gettin' turnovers, getting' the ball back to our offense. .. we haven't done that. We haven't done that yet as a defense. We haven't played a great game yet as a defense. The only thing we have to look forward to is more games, more games to go out there and prove 'em." Did you watch Chad Rinehart play and think, "Hey, he needs to improve everything"? Well, Chad Rinehart would like to be the first in line to agree with you. "Everything," Rinehart said, in response to a question of what he could improve. "I felt like I could have been a little stronger in the communication between Casey [Rabach] and Stephon [Heyer], making my own calls as I saw it, and just being more confident in myself." Then there are people concerned that players are focused on their individual stats over the team's success. Brian Orakpo begs to differ. Asked about getting his first regular season sack, Orakpo shrugged. "It don't matter," he said. "We lost, so I really don't care about it." Rock Cartwright had a similar reaction to his unexpected increase in playing time. "I would've loved to win the football game," Cartwright said, "besides me getting to play a little bit of offense. I got in there because CP was hurt and Ladell was a little winded, so I got my opportunity to go in there and I was able to make a couple plays and give us an opportunity to win the football game, and I'm just trying to do my part." Pretty much everywhere you looked, there were people taking responsibility for the loss, pinpointing many of the same things that have been discussed endlessly here and on ExtremeSkins and everywhere else. And there was very little of the false optimism that some commenters have worried about; the closest the team came to that was in pointing out that the season is just three games old, which should offer plenty of time to turn things around. "I think we need to get guys to stay together," team captain London Fletcher said. "That's one of the main things you got to do. We got to understand it is the third game of the season. It's still early but we cannot allow a snowball effect to take place where one loss ends up being two and then three and then the next thing you know everything is out of control. We definitely need to continue to have great focus, to not allow any negativity to creep in amongst us." Philip Daniels was even more specific. "A couple guys brought up the point that the [New York] Giants started off real bad and were talking about firing their coach a few years ago," he said, "and they made it to the Super Bowl. So we've pretty much got to take that same attitude. We've got to take it one play at a time and one game at a time, and make it happen." Brian Orakpo is in his first year in the league, which means he's not too far removed from a situation where even one early season loss can be fatal, so he was keenly aware of the difference in the pros. "We're one and two," Orakpo said. "It's a lonnnng season. That's one thing. In college? Yeah. In college you're done, pretty much. But this is not college. It's a marathon, not a sprint. We've just got to continue to get better each week; I know it sounds cliché, but that's what the process has to be, you know, to get better as a team. And we just can't be finger pointing." click link for more(posted by Bubba in Redskins Breaking News) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Nice article!! It really tied everything together. Yeah people can say it's only lip service, but I am taking a wait and see approach. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobie-k Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I'll believe it when I actually see it...its easy to screw up and then ask for forgiveness. How about actually showing your fans what you mean? We've heard this same thing over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JdoubleU Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 This is the point when the so-called leaders of the team: Portis, Cooley, Fletcher, Samuels, etc. need to step to the coach & speak to Zorn/Blache. It happened with Coughlin that SB season, & it happened here with Marty right before they went on a tear to end the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I'm really tired of the talking and the excuses. Sure they make for nice quotes and all. But how about they blow out Tampa Bay this sunday. Prove it on the field!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onevaguy Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 True very nice article. Well put Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 This is the point when the so-called leaders of the team: Portis, Cooley, Fletcher, Samuels, etc. need to step to the coach & speak to Zorn/Blache. It happened with Coughlin that SB season, & it happened here with Marty right before they went on a tear to end the season. I thought about that too. The leaders of the team need to bum rush the coaches' office and clear the air for real. Unless the coaches are just too arrogant to listen to any sort of counsel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted September 29, 2009 Author Share Posted September 29, 2009 I'm really tired of the talking and the excuses. Sure they make for nice quotes and all. But how about they blow out Tampa Bay this sunday. Prove it on the field!! I'm with you on this one. Talk is cheap. Let's see some action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 When they actually play to back it up and don't just give soundbytes or talk about how good they are, then I'll start to care what they think they believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 prove it on sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikie Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I think ultimately a team's identity is a reflection of their coach's attitude and demeanour... zorn seems like a great guy but perhaps not the type of leader this team needs... it's just my impression that he isn't the type of guy our players HATE to let down, like Gibbs was... and it's no coincidence a gibbs led team made those amazing late season runs like they did, versus the opposite that has happened with zorn, good out of the gates but not able to rebound from adversity.. if you look around the league at a coach's personality and how their teams perform, it's quite telling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayH81 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 This current team is just like the one that every opponent wants to schedule for Homecoming games. Their inconsistent play, lack of effort, lack of heart, and lack of identity make them play like they are the worst team in the league. I don't mind them getting beat by a superior opponent, but that is not what is happening. They are losing games because (barring about 15 players) come Sunday, not enough of them care or are competent. The Rams are probably pissed off real bad right now, because they know they should have won that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 im kinda sick of hearing about execution. these are paid professionals and if they cant execute by now they need to be benched. cooley needs to shut it with execution. hes paid to execute. so execute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 IMO Hall needs to get a couple of games in that show case his talent and prove that he is not in the league just to collect a big fat pay check every week. Until then, he really needs to be quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedlightG20 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 im kinda sick of hearing about execution. these are paid professionals and if they cant execute by now they need to be benched. cooley needs to shut it with execution. hes paid to execute. so execute. I'm sick of hearing about ALL of the excuses they've given. This article is just a lump of excuses that have been regurgitated over and over for years. Defense not getting the turnovers, offense not making big plays, lack of execution, not being ready to play. It's nice that they acknowledge what is going on and reiterate what the fans have been saying forever. But I can't think of too many high-paying jobs where you can get away with making up so many excuses for your lack of production and STILL get paid to do it. All of these chumps have GOTTA GO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSupposed2Be Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Well, it starts this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big z Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 we should be an attacking defense with lock down corners (or at least one) and a smashmouth offense that can run it down peoples throat.... that's redskins football. we all know that. why doesn't management? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 It confuses me when PLAYERS say that this team doesn't have an identity. That's for them to create through training camp, pre-season, and practices. Figure out your identity and move forward with it. I'm wondering if we just lack true leaders on this team. I know Fletcher is a great leader, but who else is there? Campbell is soft-spoken, CP and Cooley are pretty out there (in different ways), Randle-El seems to have it in his makeup, but how much impact can your #3 WR really have? We need an identity and some accountability...but it's the TEAM's job to find it. They shouldn't be telling us that there isn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouBrave86 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 How many weeks in a row do we have to hear this garbage? I'm done believing in this team until they actually put together a string of wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I really like the way Matt presented this article, but nothing these players say matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TE#80 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 There seems to be a pretty substantial disconnect between the players and coaches, especially Zorn. You know the offensive huddle is rolling their eyes when zorn calls in yet another off-tackle left play. There is no confidence in their head coach. Lavar said it like it is, half the team probably feels smarter than Zorn right about now, just like all of us do. Its time for the coaches to let down their pride and listen to what players are saying, that includes Blache. Their way clearly isnt working. If the coaches can not adapt from their stubborn predictable habits, it will be up to the captians to rally this team without the support of the coaches. Heres to hoping this loss will force Blache and Zorn to evolve in their coaching strategies. Anyone think theres a chance they will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Man this team is in such disarray. Sunday should make us all feel a little better. If we manage to lose to the Bucs....well.....we are in for some really, really bad times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Well, it starts this weekend. Just wondering....you are a Redskins fan, right? Why a Colts/Freeney signature for yourself on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 is portis on the john thompson show yet? thats gonna be one awesome interview. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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