prufRock Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Always enjoy listening to Doc Walker because he clearly lives and dies with the team and does a good job voicing his frustrations. Here's a clip from Redskins Insider where he starts out calm, but by the end of the segment, he's ranting and venting about how the Redskins have no 'gimmes' and if you can't score, you can't win, etc. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/defensive-players-look-for-ans.html?wprss=redskinsinsider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70Chip44 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 - If only today's players acted and played like the old school players.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr77 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 How come it only seems like EX players are fired up about this team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 How come it only seems like EX players are fired up about this team? I think a few current players are, but the problem is the whole team isn't frustrated. I think alot of that has to do with Zorn trying to keep everyone "medium". They don't see the coach getting angry and frustrated, so they don't care either. Zorn needs to take control or this could get ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddpls Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Because the old players understood "TEAM PLAY" and Dedication! That was one of the great things the skins always had! Those guys had (like the movie) Miles and Miles of HEART! That made up for lack of talent very often! It is also one of the reasons I have been a fan of the skins since the very early 70's. How can you not cheer for a bunch of rough and tumble guys giving it everything they have all the time! You get caught up in their passion for their team spirit and love of the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 http://www.csnwashington.com/pages/main Sherman Smith has something interesting things too say about building a team. If Synder wants too build the Skins, be patient. See, we want this. But then a lot fans turn around and want Zorn fired. The Skins are 1-2. Suck it up. Yes, it sucks. I don't like it. If you are a Skins fan, stick with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I think a few current players are, but the problem is the whole team isn't frustrated. I think alot of that has to do with Zorn trying to keep everyone "medium". They don't see the coach getting angry and frustrated, so they don't care either. Zorn needs to take control or this could get ugly. I'm sure Zorn is angry and frustrated. He just doesn't show it. Zorn doesn't have to yell and scream. The players know they aren't playing well. These are grown damn men. Yelling isn't going to turn it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr77 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Sherman Smith has something interesting things too say about building a team. If Synder wants too build the Skins, be patient. Ok, but how is he building them? A 'building team' doesn't invest that much money in a couple of defensive free agents. A 'building team' isn't the oldest team in the league. And, a 'building team' sets realistic expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 If you're a part of the team though...you HAVE to stay medium in September!! I prefer this approach to hearing Leslie Shepherd in 1998 repeatedly refer to each loss as "rock bottom" until we finally beat the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 How come it only seems like EX players are fired up about this team? Because they didn't have to work for Snyder and the dysfunctional, corrosive atmosphere he's created since he's been owner. It starts at the top, folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Ok, but how is he building them? A 'building team' doesn't invest that much money in a couple of defensive free agents. A 'building team' isn't the oldest team in the league. And, a 'building team' sets realistic expectations. I agree with all of this. I would say though, that we're probably not ACTUALLY the oldest team in the league where it really counts. We have Collins, Albright, Daniels, and Wynn who really bump that age average up pretty high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr77 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Because they didn't have to work for Snyder and the dysfunctional, corrosive atmosphere he's created since he's been owner.It starts at the top, folks. This is a good point. I'm sure current employees of this organization are scared to say anything in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 How come it only seems like EX players are fired up about this team? hahaha, i know right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr77 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I agree with all of this. I would say though, that we're probably not ACTUALLY the oldest team in the league where it really counts. We have Collins, Albright, Daniels, and Wynn who really bump that age average up pretty high. True. But a majority of the main contributors are likely on the downside of their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 This is a good point. I'm sure current employees of this organization are scared to say anything in public. Snyder has taken a Darwinian approach to management: Only the strong survive. By strong, I mean those who are more "fit" to thrive in the environment he's created at Redskins Park. These would be those who either fully buy in to the propaganda or are more than happy to suck up to the owner the way he insists it be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabR Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 - If only today's players acted and played like the old school players.... Get rid of the Guaranteed contracts and they will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Clark Fan Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 DOC is the man. Maybe he should give a pregame speech instead of Tom Cruise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoEd Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 - If only today's players acted and played like the old school players.... None of the old school players will come around because they can't stand the FO. What better way to be inspired then to have the greats come around by being involved with this team. There's no sense of pride, tradition or history with this team anymore. They're playing uninspired football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Zornography Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 If you're a part of the team though...you HAVE to stay medium in September!! I prefer this approach to hearing Leslie Shepherd in 1998 repeatedly refer to each loss as "rock bottom" until we finally beat the Giants. Whooooa, Leslie Sheppard name drop. Way-back machine. Having major flashbacks to a time when things were probably even worse than they are this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 True. But a majority of the main contributors are likely on the downside of their careers. Yes...but if your glass is half full, hopefully we have some replacements in the pipeline. I realize that our core is probably done here (Portis, Moss, Randle-El, etc.) but I'm hoping that the next generation can lead us. Ideally though, I'm hoping for a complete overhaul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Daniel Snyder knows jack about football but meddles at every level in our team and it shows. Carlos Rogers is wrong, our team does have an identity, it's just that of a deranged egotistical midget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 DOC is the man. Maybe he should give a pregame speech instead of Tom Cruise Tom Cruise gave the team a pregame speech? Please tell me this is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Whooooa, Leslie Sheppard name drop. Way-back machine. Having major flashbacks to a time when things were probably even worse than they are this week. Well...yes and no. I could give you a bunch of reasons to be optimistic as 1998 ended: Trent Green Stephen Davis Young OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Ideally though, I'm hoping for a complete overhaul. Including the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Doc was a good TE. He makes some good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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