Peeping Wizard Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Good thinking. The President is directly involved in this. Assuming he has control over his top level spokesmen then you bet your ass he is. David Axelrod was leading the meeting. Nice drive-by reaction though. Google flag@whitehouse.gov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Kilmer, do you not think that showing up with a sign that says "Angry Mob" is at least inciteful. I realize the guy who ended up in the hospital seems innocent in all this, but it seems like a lot of people are going to these town hall meetings to start a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 “If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,” Messina said, according to an official who attended the meeting. Yeah, because that was meant to be taken literally! Good gravy folks get a grip! Besides that if you want to run with that line of 5th grader logic then all they were doing was advocating self defense. Seriously WTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share Posted August 7, 2009 How is asking for more details "blaming the victim"? You are both taking one line from an article and running with it as if its gospel, you have no idea what might have transpired before the incident. Does this concern me, sure it does, am I ready to run off and join a lynch mob, not quite...apparently some are already grabbing their pitchforks. No, I'm just taking what has been reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 It's clear that there are fired up people on both sides of this debate. Why should the government take on this new role in health care if half the people are militantly against it and half are militantly for it?I would think that the mere act of suggesting legislation leads to people fighting in the streets would be a reason to put the brakes on and rethink what you're really trying to accomplish. I don't agree with that... you let the terrorists win with that logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Kilmer, do you not think that showing up with a sign that says "Angry Mob" is at least inciteful. I realize the guy who ended up in the hospital seems innocent in all this, but it seems like a lot of people are going to these town hall meetings to start a fight. Oh come on. Its obviously a joking reference to what the anti-public option protestors have been accused of being in the press and specifically from the DNC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Why should the government take on this new role in health care if half the people are militantly against it and half are militantly for it? You are assuming that these conservative militant mobs represent half of the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsTime Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 You are assuming that these conservative militant mobs represent half of the people. According to polls they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkleMotion Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 How is asking for more details "blaming the victim"? You are both taking one line from an article and running with it as if its gospel, you have no idea what might have transpired before the incident. Does this concern me, sure it does, am I ready to run off and join a lynch mob, not quite...apparently some are already grabbing their pitchforks. You said the whole reason for this happening is conservatives making the town halls a big deal. That seems to infer that if he would have just stayed at home and minded his own business, he wouldn't have gotten beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Oh come on. Its obviously a joking reference to what the anti-public option protestors have been accused of being in the press and specifically from the DNC. Really? Its somewhat incietful, no? I mean, if you show up with an "Angry Mob" people assume one thing. Like I said, the guy who got beaten should be pissed off and has every right to be, but people on both sides are purposely inciting violence at these things... and an Angry Mob poster embraces that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 No, I'm just taking what has been reported. And, I'm just asking for the whole story which I think we can all agree is not in the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Kilmer, do you not think that showing up with a sign that says "Angry Mob" is at least inciteful. I realize the guy who ended up in the hospital seems innocent in all this, but it seems like a lot of people are going to these town hall meetings to start a fight.I was thinking the the guy with the "Angry Mob" sign was probably mocking the protesters. :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brave Little Toaster Oven Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Anyone see Navy Dave today? :whoknows: :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I was thinking the the guy with the "Angry Mob" sign was probably mocking the protesters. :whoknows: I think he was mocking the DNC and those that made the astroturf allegations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I was thinking the the guy with the "Angry Mob" sign was probably mocking the protesters. :whoknows: Well, I didn't think that... but if that's true then that mocking is still inciteful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share Posted August 7, 2009 And, I'm just asking for the whole story which I think we can all agree is not in the article. Can we? Alright, if you say so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Really? Its somewhat incietful, no?I mean, if you show up with an "Angry Mob" people assume one thing. Like I said, the guy who got beaten should be pissed off and has every right to be, but people on both sides are purposely inciting violence at these things... and an Angry Mob poster embraces that. Ummm, I have literally never seen nor heard of a truly angry member of a mob holding up a sign that says "angry mob" The poster is a silly attempt at humor, dont pull a pelosi and claim its anything but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I think he was mocking the DNC and those that made the astroturf allegations. I was thinking the the guy with the "Angry Mob" sign was probably mocking the protesters. :whoknows: And I was thinking he was saying "we're pissed off and we're not gonna take it" in a way that is dangerous and stupid. And that no matter what he meant, its dangerous and stupid to show up at a rally with a sign that says "Angry Mob." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 You said the whole reason for this happening is conservatives making the town halls a big deal. That seems to infer that if he would have just stayed at home and minded his own business, he wouldn't have gotten beat. Just because you want it to infer that, does not mean that I infered that line of thought. He has every right to peaceably assemble and every right to speak his mind. And if that's what he was indeed doing and he was assaulted for it then I am saddened and angry at those who did it and they should be prosecuted. However, since all we have before us is one line in a poorly articulated article I reserve the right to withhold judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 And I was thinking he was saying "we're pissed off and we're not gonna take it" in a way that is dangerous and stupid. And that no matter what he meant, its dangerous and stupid to show up at a rally with a sign that says "Angry Mob." It's stupid to think it was anything but an attempt at humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Can we? Alright, if you say so... Now, you're just stirring the pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 According to polls they do The polls indicate that 50% of America is represented by these conservative militant mobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 There seems to be two sides to the story. One of the men, Matthews, who supposedly attacked the fellow, said the following: "One of those arrested was Brian Matthews, 34, of St. Louis city, who works as a rehabber and previously worked on a campaign for a Texas statehouse candidate. "I feel like it was a bull rush," Matthews said. "It all came from behind." Matthews said he had been inside the forum because he is in favor of a public option for health care. He had attended with a friend, a 51-year-old woman. After it was over, they were walking outside and had a run-in with a man who was trying to videotape them. Matthews said that man from from the GOP. They reported the man to a police officer, who seemed uninterested, Matthews said." So, you have to wonder what really happened. Also, it isn't as if "the mob" are being peaceful, themselves. Here is something that happened in Florida: "Police officers were called to calm down an unruly crowd outside a health care reform town hall meeting in downtown Tampa, Florida on Thursday evening, according to local news reports." "Instead, hundreds of vocal critics turned out, many of them saying they had been spurred on through the Tampa 912 activist group promoted by conservative radio and television personality Glenn Beck. Others had received e-mails from the Hillsborough Republican Party that urged people to speak out against the plan and offered talking points." And I remember how many of us condemned anti-war protesters when they behaved in this manner . . . . http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/06/tampa-town-hall-on-health_n_253478.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Ummm, I have literally never seen nor heard of a truly angry member of a mob holding up a sign that says "angry mob"The poster is a silly attempt at humor, dont pull a pelosi and claim its anything but. I'm sorry, but you are going way too far to defend this. You hold up a sign that says "Angry Mob" at what you know is a very contentious debate already and you are asking for trouble. You don't make an "Angry Mob" sign like that out of humor. And if you make it you are intending to cause problems... or you at least should realize that you are going to cause problems... or you're stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 The polls indicate that 50% of America is represented by these conservative militant mobs? The article does kind of point out that there were "militant mobs" from both sides of the equasion. Only the liberal militant mob actually resorted to beating up someone for handing out dont tread on me stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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