CAPT_CHAOS47 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 If i am on site like yahoo, this forum or foxnews am i seriously increasing bandwidth? My yahoo email also has a messenger built into. I dont watch videos or anything i just go to those sites mentioned...I usually have this forum up all day. I also set it so i can't see anyones sigs.We have our bandwidth watched closely and thats why i ask..I do enjoy coming to this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 every time you do a refresh or go to another page, you're downloading data off the internet. The real question is about how much you are using up. Right now I'm sitting on a page that isn't refreshing, so I'm not using up any bandwidth. Once I send it, I'll be both sending data out, and receiving new data. My guess is that you should be fine for bandwidth if you're not watching videos, but then again, I don't know exactly what they're looking for over there. edit: I had my system monitor running to record network activity, and since writing that post I downloaded 15.7 MiB and uploaded 920 KiB, not sure what kind of threshold you have, but maybe that'll give you an idea of what posting on ES does for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPT_CHAOS47 Posted July 8, 2009 Author Share Posted July 8, 2009 I have no idea what u mean with the download and upload stuff..lol! But it sounds like i should not be on the forums as much....But we were told its ok to have our email open but my email has a messenger to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I have no idea what u mean with the download and upload stuff..lol! But it sounds like i should not be on the forums as much....But we were told its ok to have our email open but my email has a messenger to it. Well basically, you'll mostly be downloading information when you enter a page. Leaving a page up shouldn't really do much to your bandwidth. Its not really all that much information you'll be downloading at a time (at least not on ES). I've been surfing with my system monitor up since the first post and total bandwidth I've used up in that time is 23 MiB, which isn't very much. I don't know about how much bandwidth a messenger built into your email site uses up, but I would imagine its not much, especially if you aren't using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHendrix Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Is MiB the same as MB (megabytes). CK47, I'm guessing the only thing that will piss off your monitors regarding bandwidth is if you're constantly streaming vids, like on YouTube. I could be wrong, but most normal surfing doesn't kill bandwidth, just videos and downloading music, stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Is MiB the same as MB (megabytes). Not quite. MB is the decimal estimate of MiB. To explain better, I'll give an example. A Kilobyte is technically supposed to be 1024 bytes, but its rounded to 1000 bytes to make simpler. So you see something measured in KB, it could be either 1000 bytes or 1024 bytes, depending on which method they're choosing to calculate it. But KiB is specifying for sure you're using the binary system, so 1 KiB is exactly 1024 bytes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONTOP Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Here's a layman's explanation: 1) Open all programs you think are using bandwidth 2) Disconnect your internet (Either by unplugging the ethernet cord or turning off your modem/router) 3) Any programs that stop running or give an error message were using bandwidth... A static webpage like this wouldn't pop an error message, therefore it's not using any at the moment. Now try to navigate through, NOW it's using bandwidth... Some online games will use bandwidth some won't... Not really sure what you're searching for but I hope that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHendrix Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Not quite. MB is the decimal estimate of MiB. To explain better, I'll give an example. A Kilobyte is technically supposed to be 1024 bytes, but its rounded to 1000 bytes to make simpler. So you see something measured in KB, it could be either 1000 bytes or 1024 bytes, depending on which method they're choosing to calculate it. But KiB is specifying for sure you're using the binary system, so 1 KiB is exactly 1024 bytes. Thanks for the explanation. I have always thought it silly that KBs and MBs are not exactly one thousand and one million. Here's a layman's explanation:1) Open all programs you think are using bandwidth 2) Disconnect your internet (Either by unplugging the ethernet cord or turning off your modem/router) 3) Any programs that stop running or give an error message were using bandwidth... A static webpage like this wouldn't pop an error message, therefore it's not using any at the moment. Now try to navigate through, NOW it's using bandwidth... Some online games will use bandwidth some won't... Not really sure what you're searching for but I hope that helps I think CK47 may be using a community terminal; if so, it might be frowned upon for him to go disconnecting wires all willy-nilly and such. :saber: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Thanks for the explanation. I have always thought it silly that KBs and MBs are not exactly one thousand and one million. It all comes down to the binary system. While we love the decimal system, machines work in binary. A machine's memory and storage are gonna be in binary because they'll use up to their maximum amount. if there are 10 switches (or 10 binary digits), that means there are 1024 possible positions. you will never have it so there are only 1000 possible positions, so measuring in binary measures only makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHendrix Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 It all comes down to the binary system. While we love the decimal system, machines work in binary.A machine's memory and storage are gonna be in binary because they'll use up to their maximum amount. if there are 10 switches (or 10 binary digits), that means there are 1024 possible positions. you will never have it so there are only 1000 possible positions, so measuring in binary measures only makes sense. That makes sense, at least. I figured it was one of those things that just was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPT_CHAOS47 Posted July 8, 2009 Author Share Posted July 8, 2009 Thanks I never look at vids or stream anything, I am took hooked on ES to go elsewhere.. On another note...my post count has been on 24 for the longest time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drums and skins Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 One thing that should save some bandwidth for you is turning off signatures if you have not already. That way you won't have to download people who ahve animated gifs which tend to suck a bit of bandwidth when you download them. You can do this through clicking "User CP" and then clicking on Edit Options. Viewing Signatures is at the very bottom of this page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 One thing that should save some bandwidth for you is turning off signatures if you have not already. That way you won't have to download people who ahve animated gifs which tend to suck a bit of bandwidth when you download them.You can do this through clicking "User CP" and then clicking on Edit Options. Viewing Signatures is at the very bottom of this page. he already did so. Can't you read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacky McSlackAss Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 On another note...my post count has been on 24 for the longest time... Posts don't count in the tailgate. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHendrix Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Posts don't count in the tailgate. :mad: Tell me about it. http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=276792 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 There are no simple Computer questions anymore which can be relied on to be correct. Fact is Ajax and Ajax II are Web II standards which allow web pages to maintain a persistant socket connection even when you aren't touching anything. An end user really has no control over whether his web browers is sucking up bandwidth or not. Then there are sites like the DrudgeReport which put timmers in their web pages HTML which periodically refresh themselves causing a complete redownload of the information every few minutes. Pain in the tukus for slow readers like me. Want to be sure your not using bandwidth, don't leave the browser open. Still, your admins must be pretty anal to worry about such data traffic. Text content is minisule and even bitmaps and jpg's aren't much more than miniscule. Video is what eats up the majority of the bandwidth on the net and for ISP's. I read a paper by one ISP which actually proposed buying third party T1 lines for a few of their customers who used the most bandwidth, because it would actually be cheaper than continuing to support them. The paper said out of a population of tens of thousands of users there were five users using something like 40% of their bandwidth, most of it video files.... That was late 1990's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Turn off signatures and avatars from ES. Don't use your messenger with E-mail unless you need it, otherwise close it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Still, your admins must be pretty anal to worry about such data traffic. Text content is minisule and even bitmaps and jpg's aren't much more than miniscule. Video is what eats up the majority of the bandwidth on the net and for ISP's. Given that he is serving in Iraq, it depends greatly on his location. Some remote sites have very limited bandwidth, and while they allow personal use of the interwebs for R&R, they also need it for real business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinzFoLife Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Streaming video, downloading files, torrents and basically any movement of files will take up bandwith, surfing the internet typically does not take up a lot of bandwith unless you are watching videos or listening to music on a website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Given that he is serving in Iraq, it depends greatly on his location.Some remote sites have very limited bandwidth, and while they allow personal use of the interwebs for R&R, they also need it for real business. Oh if he's on a DoD network then he does have anal admins. 70% of all the data traversing the NIPRNet is bound to or bound from the Internet. DISA doesn't support that traffic with OC 192's but rather use OC-48's in parrelel..... So basically if the admins can supress internet traffic they can put off increasing the capacity of the Internet NIPRNet bridge, and save significant coin.... I hear NIPRNet Internet traffic is growing exponentially, everytime they add more capacity they have to do it again in a few months. It's driving DISA nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPortJGibbs89 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Instead of starting a new thread I will ask my question here. My Outlook Express can recieve emails but it wont send them out anymore. It just all of sudden stopped one day. I have no idea how to fix it. Also whenever I try and attach a file into my email the email window will say not responding and I have to close out of the internet. Never had this problem before but now all of sudden it doesnt work. Again I have no idea what the problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Instead of starting a new thread I will ask my question here.My Outlook Express can recieve emails but it wont send them out anymore. It just all of sudden stopped one day. I have no idea how to fix it. Also whenever I try and attach a file into my email the email window will say not responding and I have to close out of the internet. Never had this problem before but now all of sudden it doesnt work. Again I have no idea what the problem is. You probable tried to send an email out with too many CC's or something like that. Your ISP labelled your activity suspicous and blocked your ability to send emails... This is how modern spam cannons work. They covertly take over your machine and get your email client to send their messages for them. So ISP's are looking for suspicouls activity..... If you haven't gone in and tweeked your settings recently for your SMTP settings; Call up your ISP and ask tell them your having problems with your account. They'll tell you if they blocked you and why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinnedAussie Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Instead of starting a new thread I will ask my question here.My Outlook Express can recieve emails but it wont send them out anymore. It just all of sudden stopped one day. I have no idea how to fix it. Also whenever I try and attach a file into my email the email window will say not responding and I have to close out of the internet. Never had this problem before but now all of sudden it doesnt work. Again I have no idea what the problem is. I found the problem! I have bolded it to help you out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPortJGibbs89 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I found the problem! I have bolded it to help you out.LOL damn I didnt know it was that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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