airs0ft3r Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Thanks to Bubba for finding the good bits: _____________________________ http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat...er-matt-mosley Click link for entire article Chat Matt Mosley shaun (va): hey matt love the blog my question is how would you rate the secondarys in the beast? Mosley: Thanks, Shaun. Here's how I'd rank them:1. Giants 2. Eagles 3. Redskins 4. Cowboys, Not that the Cowboys have a bad secondary. Just a lot of solid players in the East. And I think the Eagles and Redskins are right there together, with the Cowboys a little behind them. Dan (DC): So Devin Thomas - is he your Redskin breakout player because you really like him, or because there just aren't any good candidates on the Skins (sigh)? Mosley: Dan, I think he has a wonderful opportunity in front of him. Is he mature enough to recognize that? We're about to find out. ANDREW (NC): Why is everyone so down on the skins? No one even has them ranked in the top 20 which is rediculous. With all of the off season moves, the draft, and a QB in an offense that he finally knows, I think that we have a shot at winning the division not to mention the conference. Your thoughts? Mosley: It's not that everyone's down on the Skins. It's the fact they play in the best division in football. I don't see how you can make the argument that the Skins are in better position than either the Giants or Eagles heading into training camp. It's just not a logical thing to suggest. But I appreciate your participation. Trevor (Texas): What rookie will have the biggest impact for each team? For the division? Mosley: Cowboys -- Buehler, Eagles -- McCoy, Giants -- Nicks, Redskins -- Orakpo Mark (Damascus): What are the chances the Skins win the division? I know...bring on the hate... Mosley: slim to none Craig (Orlando): Any word about how Barnes is looking as a rookie for the Skins? I would like to see him take over Smoot's nickle spot. Although i love smoot. Don't trust Tryon but been hearing good things Mosley: Jerry Gray and I talked yesterday. I'll have more on that on the Beast. Jason Campbell (Washington): Have the Redskins stopped looking for my replacement yet? I'd like to know if I should put my house up for sale, this market is terrible! Mosley: No, the Skins haven't stopped. They're just getting started. But a good season could silence some of the critics -- namely the owner. Craig (Orlando): Is Greg Blache changing his defensive philosophy with Haynesworth on the roster? Mosley: It's not like he's overhauling his defensive philosophy, but yes, I think he'll play to Al's strengths. bobby (Syracuse,NY (skins fan)): why would the redskins draft such a highly touted DE like orakpo only to have him running around tireing himself out on 1st and 2nd down? do they honestly expect him to have the same burst off the line when he was just chasing a tight end off the field?what about former #1 LB prospect Willie Williams? id give the kid a shot on his potential alone... Mosley: Don't get me started on this topic. I'm still holding out hope the Skins will come to their senses. I'm surprised their fan base (that hangs out on the Beast) is so optimistic about the move to linebacker. Orakpo needs to be quarterback hunting on almost every play -- not chasing running backs and tight ends. You're exactly right. Chris (Baltimore, MD): Ok so I see you seem to answer atleast one kenny phillips question a week so how bout one about laron landry, the best safey in the division? What kind of year do you see him having? He's a beast at times, and is constantly held back due to being played 30 yards off the LOS. Do you see this changing at all this year w/ haynesworth and orakpo(i hope) joining the d line? Mosley: We only have three minutes left. It's just gut-wrenching to say goodbye to you guys. I think Landry's as talented as anyone in the division. I also think it's hard to be aggressive when you're trying to make sure a rookie doesn't screw anything up. This year, the Skins will have more faith in Horton -- because he's earned that. It's time for Landry to live up to his immense potential. I think he'll do that in '09. ________________________________________________ I've always liked Mosley. He seems like he tries to be fair in his analysis. The only problem I have is with the issue of the secondaries, where I believe ours is the best by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 didnt he have our secondary rated 4th in the division a few weeks ago? at least hes got the orakpo part right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZ123 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 hahah its about time he answered one of my laron landry questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Caretaker Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 He has us behind the Giants and eagles secondary :doh:...really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Well, I don't appreciate the "slim to none" part but we have to face facts, we haven't won the division in damn near a decade. I'm hoping to see that change this year or sometime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 l o l we have the second best defense in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Mosley: It's not that everyone's down on the Skins. It's the fact they play in the best division in football. I don't see how you can make the argument that the Skins are in better position than either the Giants or Eagles heading into training camp. It's just not a logical thing to suggest. But I appreciate your participation. Giants, didn't they lose their DC, and their #1 WR....( that when he was suspended their offense went inthe tank), and a big part of their run game to Tampa Eagles, wholesale changes accross the board especially OT, lost Dawkins, depending on a rookie WR, and a ego driven sophomore prone to mental mistakes and questionable hands. Westbrook's health is always an issue, McNabb is still McNabb and at times erratic. Plus DC Johnson's illness... how will that effect their defense The Pokes are all but done, 8-8 would be a happy surprise for them. Washington is the only team that didn't make big changes to key personnel or coaching staff, plus they added Big Al to a top tier defense. If they find a serviceable RT, and the young WR's can contribute in year two... they have a much better than "slim" chance to win the East Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSO Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Mosley's alright with me, but I'm getting annoyed at his incessant "Orakpo at LB" bashing. It's one thing to not like the move for logical reasons, but another when he keeps assuming we are putting him at LB to cover TEs and RBs all game. We just gave Defensive MVP to a player known to be a pass rushing LBer. Why can't he grasp the possibility that Orakpo may just be that for us, a pass rushing LBer? Furthermore, since it's his job to cover the "Beast", why hasn't he done the simplest of research, like checking the official blog of the Redskins and reading the words from Orakpo himself that he will be doing what he's best at doing from either position: pass rushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 at least hes got the orakpo part right. You know, I read that Orakpo is down to about 259 on the Redskin's scout forum. Slimming down for the position? :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Giants, didn't they lose their DC, and their #1 WR....( that when he was suspended their offense went inthe tank), and a big part of their run game to TampaEagles, wholesale changes accross the board especially OT, lost Dawkins, depending on a rookie WR, and a ego driven sophomore prone to mental mistakes and questionable hands. Westbrook's health is always an issue, McNabb is still McNabb and at times erratic. Plus DC Johnson's illness... how will that effect their defense The Pokes are all but done, 8-8 would be a happy surprise for them. Washington is the only team that didn't make big changes to key personnel or coaching staff, plus they added Big Al to a top tier defense. If they find a serviceable RT, and the young WR's can contribute in year two... they have a much better than "slim" chance to win the East Exactly...also I don't understand why all these "experts" say the Skins can't compete in the NFC East. Last year the Skins finished 3-3 in the East, and that was the 2nd best divisional record behind the Giants at 4-2, with the Eagles and Cowboys coming up the rear with 2-4 records in the division. To say the Skins have a slim to no chance of winning the division is a complete joke. The Skins can hold their own against the division, and we have the easiest 2 remaining games on our schedule with playing the Lions and Rams. A major problem I saw last season was the fact the Skins were never playing consistently. They would play up to their competition (Cowboys, Eagles, Cardinals) and beat them; however, then they would turn around and play down to their competition (Rams, Bengals, 49ers). If the team can stay at a fairly high level and not play down to their competition then the Skins have a solid shot at winning the East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellman Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 We have heard from all the Experts from ESPN, CNNSI, etc, on the Redskins many weaknesses, while they have touted the Eagles as being the next hottest team in the NFL, right behind the former Superbowl Powerhouse N.Y Giants, or the formerly Brady-less Patriots who now have the missing link back. Of course we have not only read articles, but continue to hear about the Vikings as legitimate Superbowl contenders, that is just as soon as Brett Favre moves into his new condo that he has purchased in Minnesota. All the polls seem to have the Redskins poised for yet another mediocre season filled with errant passes, injured offensive linemen, coaching blunders, and receivers who run around the field in circles attempting to look as though they have a plan. Is it just the "homer" in me, or does it seem to anyone else that so many outsiders have not taken a serious look at what the Redskins have done in the offseason? Seems to me that the "experts" are Projecting through a ONE WAY MIRROR. By that, I mean for instance: The Eagles picked up an offense lineman. Great! So did the Redskins, but the experts claim that the Eagles are pretty much a solid brick wall because of their pick up, while the Redskins plugging in a healthy 335 pound guard into the offensive line is a meaningless event. While the Redskins drafted the best pass rusher in college and another solid cornerback, these healthy bodies are a moot point, while the Eagles first two draft picks are surefire winners who will compete with each other for "rookie of the year" honors and will undoubtedly put the Eagles over the top. In fact, even the N.Y. Giants first round pick is being touted as a possible replacement for Plaxico Burress. Again, meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Redskins draft picks will barely have any impact on this season. I get the strong feeling that if Jay Cutler had come to the Redskins, we would be reading about how it will take Cutler a year to adapt to the Redskins game plan, or perhaps he was just a one year wonder in Denver. But since he has gone to Chicago, all I hear about is how the Bears are now playoff contenders with a legitimate passing game, FINALLY. There are numerous more examples, including aging veterans on other teams who are slowing down, yet the experts continue to tout their aging wisdom and veteran experience as benefits, while all veterans over 30 who play for the Redskins are merely aging athletes with declining ability. The examples could go on all day long and night. It doesn't take an EXPERT or a GENIUS to simply PROJECT last years figures onto this year or assume that a poor team or poor QB or poor receiver from last year will demonstrate the exact same behavior and exact same performance as the previous season. Anybody can do that. But it takes a special person to really dig into the facts, the off season drills, and study the past "reasons" for poor performances, and then reevaluate the next season based on updated information rather than just a stat book from last season. No Genius Needed just to throw out the same ole' predictions of the same ole' playoff teams. From last year, I don't recall even one single genius who predicted Atlanta or Miami to make the playoffs in 2008 and yet some of those same genius experts are now predicting success again for those same two teams that were on their garbage list last year at this time. So garbage in, garbage out, except in reverse this year. That's the philosophy. The Garbage teams from last year, are now hot prospects. Amazing foresight from the genius experts. Well, replacing those garbage picks last year was easy this year. The Redskins are the easy GARBAGE pick for all those genius experts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 The Eagles picked up an offense lineman. Great! So did the Redskins, but the experts claim that the Eagles are pretty much a solid brick wall because of their pick up, while the Redskins plugging in a healthy 335 pound guard into the offensive line is a meaningless event. Two actually. They added two excellent OT's IMO. The Eagles OL has the makings of being very nasty and it would be a mistake to brush them aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icbmayday Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 new york the number 1 secondary is very interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 The only reason the Gmen secondary is ranked higher is because of their pass rush. Comparing apples to apples the Skins have one of the better secondaries in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSilverMaC Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 The only reason the Gmen secondary is ranked higher is because of their pass rush.Comparing apples to apples the Skins have one of the better secondaries in the NFL. Is that what it is, cause I couldn't name a person outside of Philips on their secondary? I guess maybe that makes sense, but I would think he would rank the unit on it's talent, rather than how the unit performs due to the dominance of another unit of the D. Maybe I am not giving their secondary enough respect though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 new york the number 1 secondary is very interesting more like, kind of Silly as silly as the Skins being third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Exactly...also I don't understand why all these "experts" say the Skins can't compete in the NFC East. Last year the Skins finished 3-3 in the East, and that was the 2nd best divisional record behind the Giants at 4-2, with the Eagles and Cowboys coming up the rear with 2-4 records in the division. To say the Skins have a slim to no chance of winning the division is a complete joke. I hate to be nitpicky, but that comes to a divisional W/L record of 11-13. I checked the standings from last year, Dallas was 3-3, same as us. Philly brought up the rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I hate to be nitpicky, but that comes to a divisional W/L record of 11-13. I checked the standings from last year, Dallas was 3-3, same as us. Philly brought up the rear. You are correct, I don't know how I misread the schedule on NFL.com, but Dallas split with us, New York, and Philly. However, IMO we still have a better shot than Dallas at winning the East and making the playoffs in general. They lost T.O., and Roy has yet to prove he can be a #1 WR and Romo sits to pee can't win a big game late in the season. Also, Dallas has to play Green Bay and Seattle, while we have St. Louis and Detroit. I think we have a better shot than they do at taking the division crown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 more like, kind of Sillyas silly as the Skins being third. Yeah, our D is underrated.I went looking stats expecting the Giants to have a much better pass D last season, and found this. On the Skins' part: Not too shabby with little pass rush. Of course, we're 3rd in the NFC-E by those stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABSTRACT Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 He has us behind the Giants and eagles secondary :doh:...really? lol Yeah That actually made me laugh out loud literally....We are a defense with the LEAST SACKS but still RANKED A 4TH BEST DEFENSE!!!! If we are ranked 4th defense with the least sacks...what does that say about our secondary??...... Houshmenzadah said we are ranked top 3 in the freaking LEAGUE so I rather listen to an actual athlete than an "analyst" I bet Mosley will be saying be saying different when Kareem Moore (HARD HITTER) and Chris Horton are up top with Landry Blitzing Eli into the ground on week 1!!!! and yes...Cows' secondary is NOT GOOD AT ALL... *see Santana Moss* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAfan47 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I was reading in the Lindsey mag.(Profootball somthing) about the east and they said that the G-men would go 12-4, ggles 11-5, pukes 10-6, skins 7-9!...They also seem to think that the G-men will go to the SB and win it again against the pats!!...My jaw dropped to the floor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Okay, I have no idea how he has our secondary ranked third. I like to think that I'm pretty good at objectively accepting our weak spots, but Jesus, if this isn't a top five secondary, what is? Couldn't agree with him more about Orakpo at LB, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAfan47 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 So i guess that every one is about 50/50 on the Rak at LB spot. I like the idea of having him at LB on running downs i would feel ten times better with Daniels in there over Rak if a running play were to happen but i guess what if the play if not so obvious if it's a pass or run then what does Rak or the skins think that Rak is going to do then? i dunno i'm just rambling at the mouth right now....sitting at home with nothing to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellman Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I was reading in the Lindsey mag.(Profootball somthing) about the east and they said that the G-men would go 12-4, ggles 11-5, pukes 10-6, skins 7-9!...They also seem to think that the G-men will go to the SB and win it again against the pats!!...My jaw dropped to the floor! see my previous post in this thread. I have no explanation for the bias but I can explain the prediction that you just posted. It is nothing more than puking up the exact same order of finish the year before, due to the fact that the EXPERTS are really clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzftball1756 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Giants, didn't they lose their DC, and their #1 WR....( that when he was suspended their offense went inthe tank), and a big part of their run game to TampaEagles, wholesale changes accross the board especially OT, lost Dawkins, depending on a rookie WR, and a ego driven sophomore prone to mental mistakes and questionable hands. Westbrook's health is always an issue, McNabb is still McNabb and at times erratic. Plus DC Johnson's illness... how will that effect their defense The Pokes are all but done, 8-8 would be a happy surprise for them. Washington is the only team that didn't make big changes to key personnel or coaching staff, plus they added Big Al to a top tier defense. If they find a serviceable RT, and the young WR's can contribute in year two... they have a much better than "slim" chance to win the East couldnt have said it better myself! :eaglesuck:gaintsuck:dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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