bubba9497 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/positional-rankings/OFF/TE Click link for entire article Positional Rankings: Tight Ends Pete Prisco ranks his top NFL players at each position, while ducnan provided his list of top tight end Duncan's Rankings 4. Chris Cooley, Redskins Comment: Good TE, just not properly utilized in the redzone in Washington. He would be in the class above if he was. Should see an increase in TD's this year, if his QB doesn't fade at the end of the year. Prisico's Rankings 8. Chris Cooley, Redskins Games played: 16 Receiving yards: 849 Catches: 83 Touchdowns: 1 Analysis: As an H-back he is a versatile pass-catching threat. He isn't a great blocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Prisco's being his usual dick self and selling Cooley short. I'd personally rank him 4th, at the top of the tier just below Gates, Witten and Gonzalez, who's career is starting to wind down. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshow24 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Can't put any stock in Prisco's lists. Always ranks the Skins predictably low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 No. 8 seems low for Cooley and I really feel he belongs @ No. 4. Prisco is, well, Prisco, but looking at his list I think at least an argument can be made for most of those guys, however, I feel if we can relieve some attention from Cooley in the redzone he can get back up to his usual 7-8 TD's this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Cooley's odd lack of TDs last year hurts him in some fantasy football rankings. But Prisco ranking Heath Miller and Owen Daniels over him is just asinine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I think 4th is about right. I believe he's just a step below Gates, Gonzalez, and Witten. IMO, Cooley and Witten are almost a toss up. I'd say 8th is way too low. I couldn't name 4 other TEs that are better than Cooley. My list is: 1. Gonzalez 2. Gates 3. Witten 4. Cooley 5. Dallas Clark 6. Heath Miller 7. Owen Daniels 8. Winslow 9. Scheffler 10. Kevin Boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I am in no way arguing that Daniels is better than Cooley (I believe Cooley is definitely top 5, probably No. 4) but I highly doubt any of us really ever see him play (me included) but you can't deny his numbers, really ever since he came into the league. So don't just not include him - his numbers alone (numbers aren't always the whole story, keep reading) probably place him in the top 7, 8 at the lowest. Winslow is kind of an anomaly because he may be the most physically gifted/athletic tight end in the NFL. Sans Antonio Gates, Winslow is hands down the best athlete of the entire group, but he was injured and definitely did not put up the numbers last year to prove it. As far as the old Witten/Cooley debate, I think Witten possesses a slight edge due simply to better size - he's two inches taller according to nfl.com (although for what it's worth it also says Cooley's only 4 pounds lighter - I find that a little difficult to believe, no way Cooley weighs 258 lbs). That gives Witten a bit of an advantage in the receiving game, but mostly I think Witten is just a bigger/stronger blocker - maybe not that much better, but just stronger and able to get a better push. So I believe Witten is the slightly better player, but I'd take Cooley any day and would never trade the two straight up =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I'm partial to Jillian Barberie (Reynolds, whatever). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I think 4th is about right. I believe he's just a step below Gates, Gonzalez, and Witten. IMO, Cooley and Witten are almost a toss up. I'd say 8th is way too low. I couldn't name 4 other TEs that are better than Cooley.My list is: 1. Gonzalez 2. Gates 3. Witten 4. Cooley 5. Dallas Clark 6. Heath Miller 7. Owen Daniels 8. Winslow 9. Scheffler 10. Kevin Boss i would switch miller and daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I wish Cooley was a better blocker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 i would switch miller and daniels I think they are pretty even. Miller is good, but the Steelers like to run more so he doesn't get as many chances. He does seem to be a good target in the red zone however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I think they are pretty even. Miller is good, but the Steelers like to run more so he doesn't get as many chances. He does seem to be a good target in the red zone however. You can't just rate a Tight End on pass-catching either. Miller is definitely a solid option in the passing game but clearly not as prolific as Daniels in that aspect of the game. I don't know much about Daniels' blocking ability, but I know that Miller belongs in the top 2 or 3 of this list, if not the best, when it comes to blocking. An argument can definitely be made for both in deciding which of the two is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bay Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Prisco has to be taking full potential and blocking ability into account here, along with the pass happy offense of the Colts (ranking Clark higher). Otherwise, there's no way Cooley should be that low. Ducnan's top 7 are pretty much how I'd rank them. After that, everything levels out and I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 Prisco has to be taking full potential and blocking ability into account here, along with the pass happy offense of the Colts (ranking Clark higher). Otherwise, there's no way Cooley should be that low. Cooley has become a pretty good blocker under Buges, better than those ranked ahead of him. Better than either Witten or Clark (though Prisico gives Witten credit for trying ) The other guys counts TD's against Cooley, who normally been one of the top tier TD catching TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 I wish Cooley was a better blocker... he is see above he is used a lot in max protect, to handle ends and lb'ers one on one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Prisco is a joke. He is top 5, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam291 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Seems to me that on a lot of replays I see, when Cooley isn't out running routes, he's making a critical block in the passing game or the running game. I think he just got a bad rep early on for not being a great blocker, and whether he improves on that or not, it'll just stick with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Prisco is a joke. He is top 5, no doubt. Apparently being in the Pro Bowl the last 2 years doesn't mean much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bay Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Cooley has become a pretty good blocker under Buges, better than those ranked ahead of him. Better than either Witten or Clark (though Prisico gives Witten credit for trying )The other guys counts TD's against Cooley, who normally been one of the top tier TD catching TE I suppose you are right. Just trying to get into Prisco's head. As it is, it looks like he's using everything (including effort) to rank Cooley lower than is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuraitengai Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Prisco's being his usual dick self and selling Cooley short. I'd personally rank him 4th, at the top of the tier just below Gates, Witten and Gonzalez, who's career is starting to wind down. Hail. id put clark above cooley, but thats the only change id make. cooley is top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Damn did Cooley really only have one TD grab last year? Seemed like he was the only one catching anything in the endzone in 2007. I'm anxious to see how Zorn will actually utilize F. Davis and Cooley in RZ packages. 1 TD for our best pass-catcher is just inexcusable. Something not being said here is that we had to leave Cooley in to block/decoy a lot towards the end of the year when our OL was going down left and right. You can't tell me that didn't hurt his production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 id put clark above cooley, but thats the only change id make. cooley is top 5. Not sure I'd say he was better than CC personally, but Dallas is a great call who deserves similar recognition. His and Witten's #'s could be frightening for TE's this year now Harrison and Me-O aren't at the Colts and Crygirls respectively. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 What the hell does blocking have to do with fantasy football rankings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I think the two big things that have held Cooley back as far as statistics go, our O-line has needed the extra help at Tight End the past two seasons in order to pass block. So instead of running a route, Cooley is in blocking. Secondly, Cooley has been used as basically a #2 WR in our offense, which means that he is matching up with better pass coverage then Tight Ends usually see. Instead of a Tight End vs. Linebacker matchup, Cooley has often been covered by a corner, or double-covered because the only other receiving threat on the field has been Moss. If, Thomas & Kelley and Davis decide that it is time to produce for this team, we will see Cooley become more of a dangerous weapon. Also, what both these writers failed to mention is that Cooley never seems to go down on the initial tackle/hit attempt. He either needs to be gang-tackled or dragged down. The guy has converted a bunch of 1st downs where the pattern had him catching the ball short of the 1st down marker, but his strength and will is what got the 1st down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheItalianStallion Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I don't watch the Colts all that much, but Clark has always struck me as a product of those around him, particularly Peyton Manning. Don't get me wrong, Clark is solid, but Cooley is undoubtedly better IMO. It's always seemed to me that Witten and Cooley are nearly identical in terms of skill sets, and that if Cooley and Witten were to be traded, that Cooley would have identical numbers to what Witten has been putting up. Now that Gonzo is a year older, it's possible that cooley may surpass him soon. Then again, I said the same thing last year...Gonzo just doesn't seem to slow down. I suppose a #4 ranking is acceptable for Cooley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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