Burgold Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 You guys got it wrong. Real men do cry what they don't do is breathe. Real man are tough, do things the hard way, and what's easier than breathing. Real men don't breathe. Why I haven't exhaled since '73. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Well, I will allow tears of sorrow in two instances:1. Death of a loved one (preferably immediate family). 2. Death of a fallen comrade. However, these are tears of extreme sorrow and not the case of a guy being overwhelmed by emotion in a happy situation and crying all over himself. Ridiculous. Really now? Man doesn't cry. What a Nancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 I don't want to get on the way you were raised, but if your dad cried at your grandfathers (his dad?) funeral and you were taught crying was a sign of weakness, isn't that a bit hypocritical? Nah...it was a pretty strict military family. Men didn't cry, kids didn't miss school unless they were incredibly sick, and over-the-counter medicine was greatly frowned upon. The goal was to simply build strength. To try to prepare the kids for much more difficult events in life as they got older. Crying at an event as serious as losing a parent to death was acceptable. Crying because a person thought their life had become difficult was an embarrassment. I can only speak for myself, but I will be teaching my kids the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Since man should be allowed to cry and show his emotions without being judged, what would you guys think if you were at work and you helped a guy out that you worked with by bringing him something he needed......when you handed it over to him, he broke down and welled up with tears and simply said "That was very nice of you to do. I'm sorry, I get a little emotional" as he choked back more tears?? You know damned well that every single person would think he was a little ***** and you'd be professionally embarrassed that you had to witness such a display. Once we agree on that example, we are just arguing different levels of ***** from here on out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 and over-the-counter medicine was greatly frowned upon. I could make a whole thread on this. As a matter of fact, I will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 There's actually reasonable logic and background presented by Westbrook and McD5 here in that crying due to the loss of someone very close to you, in sadness, typically differs from emotional displays based on happiness or frustration. At least for men. I can only conclude, however, that neither is a father, as you'll discover the imprint of you upon your children, in what they say, how they act, how they perform and learn, will impact you to frequently mist up as you watch it take place. But, for men without children, they really ought never cry in happiness. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btfoom Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 I was recently away on travel for work for a couple of weeks. My wife flew down one Sunday and brought my 4 year old daughter. When she came running up to me and gave me a big hug, I teared up, I was so happy. And then there was the time the Eagles won the Super Bowl. That moment was magical (wait, what, oh ok, nevermind). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 So the guys with children get a free pass ? Ehhh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 So the guys with children get a free pass ? Ehhh... Yep. Daughters especially. At that point you realize it's no longer about you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 There's actually reasonable logic and background presented by Westbrook and McD5 here in that crying due to the loss of someone very close to you, in sadness, typically differs from emotional displays based on happiness or frustration. At least for men. I can only conclude, however, that neither is a father, as you'll discover the imprint of you upon your children, in what they say, how they act, how they perform and learn, will impact you to frequently mist up as you watch it take place.But, for men without children, they really ought never cry in happiness. . Agreed. And not a parent here. Nice observation on your end. A little off-topic, but something to think about, that might make the lives of parents here, and those of their children, a little easier: I stole candy one time as a kid, then lied to my dad about it. For the first time in my life, he slapped me so fast and hard across the face, that I lost my senses for a second. He then apologized for slapping me, told me he hated lying, and promised he would never do it again. He then slapped me twice as hard, and said "Now you know what it feels like to be lied to." Lying problem solved. That one act made the next ten years of my parent's lives easier, and taught me a great lesson for the rest of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Well I'd say that takes care of the general "rule" that men don't cry. They do. Just under certain circumstances. And those aren't a bad thing either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Agreed. And not a parent here. Nice observation on your end.A little off-topic, but something to think about, that might make the lives of parents here, and those of their children, a little easier: I stole candy one time as a kid, then lied to my dad about it. For the first time in my life, he slapped me so fast and hard across the face, that I lost my senses for a second. He then apologized for slapping me, told me he hated lying, and promised he would never do it again. He then slapped me twice as hard, and said "Now you know what it feels like to be lied to." Lying problem solved. That one act made the next ten years of my parent's lives easier, and taught me a great lesson for the rest of my life. Holy ****, that's one of the best stories I ever heard in my life. That is ****ing great. I'm going to use that one day. :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btfoom Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Yep. Daughters especially. At that point you realize it's no longer about you. I couldn't agree with you more. Makes you put the rest of your life in perspective real quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Holy ****, that's one of the best stories I ever heard in my life. That is ****ing great. I'm going to use that one day. :hysterical: Yeah, that is called "nipping it in the bud." :hysterical: No years of counselling. No books. No Dr. Phil. Problem solved immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 I couldn't agree with you more. Makes you put the rest of your life in perspective real quickly. True story. When I was Mr. Mom for my nephew for awhile,it was a fairly dramatic slap in the face with the reality that this was no small amount of responsibility. Add to this the unconditional love that comes with it. Has to be 100 times that with your own kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Yep. Daughters especially. At that point you realize it's no longer about you. I have a daughter (14 now, love you babe). I didn't cry at all. I was happy and elated, but I didn't cry. That's BS. If you could only save your wife or your daughter after a tragic accident who would you save ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 I cried so hard when my son was born that the DR asked if I was ok. I couldnt have been happier. He still to this day does stuff that makes me so happy I could cry. But since he is 13 and would make fun of me I just give him charlie horses.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RammsteinSkins Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Agreed. And not a parent here. Nice observation on your end.A little off-topic, but something to think about, that might make the lives of parents here, and those of their children, a little easier: I stole candy one time as a kid, then lied to my dad about it. For the first time in my life, he slapped me so fast and hard across the face, that I lost my senses for a second. He then apologized for slapping me, told me he hated lying, and promised he would never do it again. He then slapped me twice as hard, and said "Now you know what it feels like to be lied to." Lying problem solved. That one act made the next ten years of my parent's lives easier, and taught me a great lesson for the rest of my life. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: I am totally gonna do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissU28 Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 not ragging on you here missu, but i've cried twice in front of my students:1. 9-11-01 2. Space Shuttle Columbia disaster as for tears of happiness, never that i can recall. i've welled up several times due to pride in my kids, but i'm not sure that counts. I was in college when 9/11 happened, so I saw my professor cry, but I didn't have my own class. I was still in college for the Columbia disaster, and I don't really remember it that much. I came close to crying in front of them when I apologized for being so snappy for the past month when I told them my grandpa had cancer and that he was going to die soon. He died the next day. But I don't want to get that vulnerable in front of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 But I don't want to get that vulnerable in front of them. You have stronger "man" qualities than many of the "men" in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney B Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Even though I've helped raise a couple of children, it wasn't from birth, so maybe that's why I can't say that I've ever cried out of happiness. I can take Art's word for the emotional transformation stuff - maybe it happens sometime between birth and the third year? The other day we had a going away for some guy in my unit. I really liked this fella. Anyway, when he was talking, he started tearing up in front of God and everyone. After he was finished, I walked over to him, calmly shook his hand, looked him in the eye and said "You are dead to me".The funny thing is no further explanation was needed. He knew he ****ed up. So he was smart enough to fake it, then? :evilg: Man doesn't cry.You know who cries? My wife cries. Yeah, no wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 I have a daughter (14 now, love you babe). I didn't cry at all. I was happy and elated, but I didn't cry. That's BS. If you could only save your wife or your daughter after a tragic accident who would you save ? So you think its BS for a dad to cry over his daughter being born? Wow. Btw, I don't understand why you'd ask that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Tell you what, if my husband doesn't cry after I go through birthing our child I'm going to kick him where it counts and make him freaking cry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 I have a daughter (14 now, love you babe). I didn't cry at all. I was happy and elated, but I didn't cry. That's BS. If you could only save your wife or your daughter after a tragic accident who would you save ? Daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obibyn23 Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 I teared up a bit when Ron from Biggest Loser completed the 26 mile Marathon challenge...it was the music I tell you..It's always the music!:cry: P.S....and guys...who can't admit they cry..are just hiding their inadequacies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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