Bleacher Report: Jason Campbell the Key to Washington Redskins Success

[HawaiianTime]

PO, luv'd the comparisons. Gotta love horses as well.

Talent is more than just physique or how far one can throw a ball. Talent is being able to make it count when you most need it to. I agree, either Zorn trust Campbell, or he doesn't. It looks like Zorn doesn't trust him and that has me concerned. Is it Campbell looking bad, or is it Zorn not trusting his QB and holding the reins to tight that he restricts the talent of the QB? I think Zorn is holding the reins to tightly myself.

Do you do the circuit? Maybe I'll get to see you in Vegas if you do.

[DeadExField]

QB is the key to every offense. if hes still jason campbell were in for a long ugly season.

Correct. it's going to be LONG for the Skins, and ugly for any team that gets in their way.

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[SWFLSkins]

I don't wear hats.

Ass Clowns without hats, who knew?

[Springfield]

Ass Clowns without hats, who knew?

I take off the clown had and put on the serious hat when it's time for football. Right now, it's time for the Caps to win two straight and make it to the next round of the playoffs.

[wvtbred]

Bleacher report AGAIN? Hey admins can't we block this crap?

[TomE]

Funny I only counted 1 post that was "bashing" JC and that would be post #2….. Jump the gun much?

The first response to the thread was a JC bash posted within two minutes of the OP.

That’s jumping the gun.

[Soup]

So let me get this straight, because I'm slow. If campbell plays well the redskins win. Wow, I would have never thought of that

[PROSCOUT]

Of course quarterback is the key; here's hoping that he rises to the challenge.

And accidentally you have stumbled upon the key point. That point is WHAT EXACTLY IS THE CHALLENGE? Some people who hate Jason will tell you that the Skins will go 6-10 because Campbell cannot make the Pro Bowl. Some haters think AND hope that Jason fails miserably, which in their minds means having the same stats as last season.

Some of these same haters raise the bar so high when saying that Jason is not capable of being Manning or Brady, that they have set themselves up to get off the hook for their hateful remarks, because when Jason has just a "good" season, then they can come back and say "see, I told you he couldn't ever be Manning or Brady".

But what exactly IS expected of Campbell, and what is the challenge. I see the Redskins winning 12-13 games this season with their defense if Jason Campbell can just keep his interceptions low, once again, and throw 6 more TD passes. If he can throw 19 TD's then he will have improved by nearly 50% over the previous year and that should mean substantial improvement in drives and scoring.

If Jason throws more than 19 touchdown passes the Skins will be Superbowl bound., but 19 scores will win TWELVE GAMES during the regular season and probably allow Jason to stay around one more year.

[wvtbred]

Bleacher report is opinion written by anyone, get it?

[veteranskinsfan]

Pocampo- I liked your main points and I think some of our ES buddies jumped the gun too quickly. Zorn and JC have to find a happy medium. The offensive line has to give JC time. The receivers have to do their jobs. There are so many variables that make winning playoff teams successful. Some fans have lost hope that JC can get the job done and others have not given up on him. They have to let JC throw down field this year; otherwise he will not end up throwing a lot of touchdowns. Can't dink and dunk with 5 yard passes if we get the ball typically on the 20 yard line of the opponent every offensive series. Is JC over-trained now? This is his second year in this offense-its time to score and get the job done.

[HitStickTaylor21]

bleacher report and AOL Fanhouse are the worst on the internet

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

If Jason throws more than 19 touchdown passes the Skins will be Superbowl bound., but 19 scores will win TWELVE GAMES during the regular season and probably allow Jason to stay around one more year.

I doubt the Skins will sign JC to a one year deal. I see him getting another 3-5 year deal if he does well. If he fails this board better be prepared for a thousand threads on Colt vs Draft.

[Outlaw Torn]

Man this is a weird thread

[McD5]

Great thread and great analogy by the op.

I am in agreement that too much coaching is a bad thing, especially when the coach has only one Matt Hasselbeck in 17 years as his claim to fame.

Personally, I don't want that guy trying to change Colt's game in the least. Put the kid into a real game, and only then decide what needs to be corrected. The guy is already a gamer.

With JC, I would suggest the complete opposite. I don't believe you can possibly try to teach that kid enough. I would yell at him constantly. Someone needs to light a fire under him, because he hasn't proven that he can light it himself.

[PROSCOUT]

I doubt the Skins will sign JC to a one year deal. I see him getting another 3-5 year deal if he does well. If he fails this board better be prepared for a thousand threads on Colt vs Draft.

The reason I said Campbell would stick around for another year was more symantics than anything, however, since its an uncapped year it would be difficult for Jason to go anywhere next year anyway.

But yes you are right, the contract would be in the 3-5 year range, but that is only if..IF..as I stated, that Jason would throw 6 more TD passes and the Skins make the playoffs. AND how exciting is it that by next year, Colt should be the #2 QB and in his 3rd year in the same system along with Jason. STABILILTY HERE WE COME!(hopefully...fingers crossed)

[clarkskin]

QB is the key to every offense. if hes still jason campbell were in for a long ugly season.

Dude, your relentless jibes at JC are just getting boring. And please, lose that signature, it is offensive and sophomoric.

[isaacis881]

I found the horse analogy very interesting and well thought out despite what source you used for inspiration. I don't understand some of the name calling on here maybe they didn't even read what you wrote. Anyway I don't post often but I think some of the people on this board are getting a little full stuff and need a check there pants once in a while.

[Ghost of]

Dude, your relentless jibes at JC are just getting boring. And please, lose that signature, it is offensive and sophomoric.

I can understand tiring of running into views you don't like but seriously, the signature is not offensive unless you're one of those people who wants to make every opponent not just one of opinion but of moral character and righteousness.

As for sophomoric, I think it's more clever than that. Unless you wanted him to make reference to Moliere or something...

[PROSCOUT]

I can understand tiring of running into views you don't like but seriously, the signature is not offensive unless you're one of those people who wants to make every opponent not just one of opinion but of moral character and righteousness.

As for sophomoric, I think it's more clever than that. Unless you wanted him to make reference to Moliere or something...

Mr. Nibbs this is the ONLY time I think I have ever agreed with you. Please make a note of it.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

I can understand tiring of running into views you don't like but seriously, the signature is not offensive unless you're one of those people who wants to make every opponent not just one of opinion but of moral character and righteousness.

As for sophomoric, I think it's more clever than that. Unless you wanted him to make reference to Moliere or something...

he obviously has no clue what the sig is referring to. same as people who seem to think im a brandon lloyd fan. i actually think its funnier when they do lol.

[pocampo]

Great thread and great analogy by the op.

I am in agreement that too much coaching is a bad thing, especially when the coach has only one Matt Hasselbeck in 17 years as his claim to fame.

Personally, I don't want that guy trying to change Colt's game in the least. Put the kid into a real game, and only then decide what needs to be corrected. The guy is already a gamer.

With JC, I would suggest the complete opposite. I don't believe you can possibly try to teach that kid enough. I would yell at him constantly. Someone needs to light a fire under him, because he hasn't proven that he can light it himself.

I hear what your saying Mc but you can already tell by JC game that he already has been coached to much, that's why he double pumps and runs right in to the defenders. also he seems to always check down and only throw to wide open people. He is playing not to make a mistake, He wants to win, but he is more consered about not messing up. I don't know if you can fix that, Like I said before when the pressure comes and it will, because everybody knows about him, There going to attack our weakness, thats what I would do if I played us, Will he step up and hit the WR in stride, That's the question. In my life I paid to much for horses, But what I found out is, it takes more time and effort to try to always fix a horse, So you have to cut that horse out of the heard or It will screw up the other good horses that our in the barn cause your spending to much time with the project horse, Hoping It pays of. Its friggen hard to admit you bought the wrong horse. But when your house payment depens on it. Its better just to do it, By the way I know a lot of you guys go to a office somewhere to work, The picture I posted at the start of this thread is my Office. Thats why I type so SH%^& y. But thanks for hearing my take on this situation. Check this pic out this is one of my neighbors took this pic from my porch.

[pocampo]

PO, luv'd the comparisons. Gotta love horses as well.

Talent is more than just physique or how far one can throw a ball. Talent is being able to make it count when you most need it to. I agree, either Zorn trust Campbell, or he doesn't. It looks like Zorn doesn't trust him and that has me concerned. Is it Campbell looking bad, or is it Zorn not trusting his QB and holding the reins to tight that he restricts the talent of the QB? I think Zorn is holding the reins to tightly myself.

Do you do the circuit? Maybe I'll get to see you in Vegas if you do.

Thanks for your kind words HT. You know living in the mountains and depending on the land for my survival my thinking is just not the same. So I like football to, and i just express myself in ways other people don't. The reason I came to this board is because Colt grew up in my area, Tiger wood went to my JH as well as my high school, I watch him to. Its going to be great to watch what happens this year CB5 will only get better being behind TC and JC, I still have my doubts about JZ but I could be wrong!! Just ask my first wife. She says I was wrong about a lot of things!! LOL

[thedevilhimself]

I think this is an obvious opinion. JC has to play well for the Skins to succeed. Thing is I actually think he was playing well in 2008. It is not just JC who has to play better . The WR have to step it up, the OL has to find a way to get him protection, Portis has to stop pouting and find a way to play all year not just 12 weeks , Betts has to find a way to get more involved in the game in the limited touches he has, the coaches have to find ways of hinding our weaknesses once they are exposed … it is a team game for a reason .

I have watched too many Redskins QBs and seen their limitations, seen too many good teams quit because the QB quit as I feel Collins did in 07 in the Seahawks playoff game despite the efforts of special teams and the D to keep us in the game. If you start with the ball on the 19 and cannot get three points or even a yard of offence there has to be something wrong.

Campbell took a team which lost the entire right side of the line by week 2, to 5 wins in 2007 and put us in a position where Collins can take the reigns and go 4-1 against some questionable opposition (the Cowboys and Giants in November/December …please both teams are weak down the stretch and a Vikings team that found ways to beat itself by taking the ball out of the hands of AP and tried to win with Trent Edwards …. ) with a healthy OL where Fabini and Heyer were finally gelling Moss was returning from injury which took attention away from the other WR’s and Portis was finally finding his stride after an otherwise disappointing season .

Despite the team falling apart around his ears in 08 in the 49ers game Campbell still looked like he wanted to win a pointless game.

I think this is as obvious as some of the media opinions that if we loose Samuels and whoever lines up at RT (as we did last year) we are in trouble . I don't know of a single NFL franchise that could afford to loose a Pro bowl LT and solid RT and not skip a beat .

When the Rams loose Pace for the season no one questions Marc Bulgers abilities and put all the woes onto the fact they are missing a key part of the OL . We loose Samuels who is comparable in both ability and importance and all fingers point at Campbell.

And can people stop feeding BLCs ego . Seriously if you think making vauge references to films are funny or high brow then I really have to question your sense of humour . I mean it is not even recent or particularly relevant films you chose from the 80s (Coming to America - I really fail to see the funny side at all in that) and 90s (Dumb and Dumber - Which really has to be amongst the lamest of all attempts at humour I have seen in a while . I would have stuck with the perception that you actually were a Brandon Lloyd fan it may have been less embarrassing... Can I ask what were you thinking? was it something like :

"...mwahahaha I know a character from an 1994 Jim Carry movie and he has a name a little like a player from the Washington Redskins...mwahahaha...i will make a user name up drawing attention to that comparison and I will be hailed as a comic genius ....mwahahahaha!!!!" )

.... BLC - You are a one trick Pony, and that trick is old and boring . Move on already ....geeze ....

[DGREENHULK]

One post untill the Campbell bashing started. I think we need to keep an average for the rest of the off season and see how long it takes each thread to have its first Campbell bashing post. Maybe that desrerves its on own thread and we can keep an average there? Make predictions as to how many post it takes? Track the least likely and most likely ones to bash in? Maybe the webmaster could help us out with a star system similar to Rate Thread?

I think the OP's objective was to bash Campbell but at this point its like BEATING A DEAD HORSE...no pun intended.

[DCMONEY]

The key to this team and the offense in particular is the O-line. I have no confidence that this O-line is gonna all of a sudden get it done. I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see it. When they picked up Mike Williams, I started laughing. Picking up D players get you F results. They're putting band aids on a problem thats been needing stictches for a long time. You can't neglect the trenches. If the O-line blocks adaquately, there's no question JC will get it done to me. The 1st half of last year they weren't spectacular but they were ar least average. If they can at least block that good then JC will be fine. If they block like the 2nd half of last season then its gonna be a long year.