Dark Acre Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 For the record, I still love him for his play with two broken thumbs during what ammounts to the "glory days" for us younger fans back in 2005. He is diminished but we can't get rid of him so we might as well find a use. Ironically, I watched the 1982 Redskins Super Bowl series DVD last night, which brought back a lot of memories. "Randy, it's coming at you." I have so say, without being mean, that man, that sucks for you. Your glory days is an early playoff loss while I have 3 SB wins to cherish. OTOH, the 60 year old crowd can relate to you. Here's hoping to better times ahead -- IF you keep the friggin' 2nd round draft picks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPortJGibbs89 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 If Thomas and Kelly still struggle this year I dont see them cutting 2nd round picks this soon. I stil think they will hold on to them for another year or 2. It takes atleast 3 years for recievers to catch onto the game. But I agree with your point of view about sending a message to the recievers. I think the message they are sending about the o-line is retarded. They need to draft some depth soon or we are going to be ****ed. We are relying on Jansen who as far as I am concerned is done as a starter at RT and word from the park is they agree. Heyer has shown decent pass pro but awful run blocking, and Williams has been out of football for 2 years and is the size of a damn dump truck. I just dont get the philosophy about o-lineman. I was actually shocked they drafted a defensive lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire71 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Thomas wasn't really struggling by the end of the year, but our offensive line, quarterback, and running situation were. He had more catches last year than Thrash, whose job I think is legitimately in trouble. And I think, after Thrash, Kelly. But of the three WRs we brought into camp originally, the only one I could see potentially sticking is Marko Mitchell. Eloi and Breaux are too stringy and would break in half on the first NFL-level hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 PROSCOUT if i ever met you I would buy you a beer. Not because I agree with you, because I usually don't. It's because you are one crazy son of a *****. hahhaa this was funny. seriously though, wtf are people doing up at 4 am? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Um, Kelly and Thomas are no where near "on their way out" or "missing the train." Thomas has by all accounts worked incredibly hard this offseason and was reportedly very impressive on the field the other day and easily our best receiver since Moss did not participate. They brought in Hackett because he knows the system so they can proceed with practices/camps and get good reps for everyone without having to teach the offense to yet another player. They are bringing in guys from Tennessee because our OC, Sherman Smith, is familiar with them and has vouched for them. Our receiving corps are guaranteed to consist of Moss, Thomas, ARE, and Kelly. After that it is either Thrash or a younger receiver who shows they are a hard worker and can contribute in a pinch at receiver and excels at ST. As for the O-line, they are bringing in everyone they possibly can in hopes that they find something better than what is there. Hopefully it works and they find a gem or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAARedskin Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Good points, but bringing in other WRs is super smart because........what if Thomas and Kelly are ultimately busts? And what if they're good, but hurt 75% of the time? And what if Santana Moss gets hurt? Then what? Nothing wrong with CONSTANTLY trying to improve this team, because a team that went 8-8 NEEDS IMPROVEMENT....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Good points, but bringing in other WRs is super smart because........what if Thomas and Kelly are ultimately busts? And what if they're good, but hurt 75% of the time? And what if Santana Moss gets hurt? Then what? Nothing wrong with CONSTANTLY trying to improve this team, because a team that went 8-8 NEEDS IMPROVEMENT....... No other team brings in other players to training camp. Just us. Every other team sets their roster in May and uses August as a combination tune-up/spa weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Some men just want to watch the world burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgreg Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Except if the train leaves without Thomas and Kelly, we're screwed for the next 5 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Unless there is ice cream, plasma screens or a disabled security fob involved, the team is not trying to send a message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROSCOUT Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 Unless there is ice cream, plasma screens or a disabled security fob involved, the team is not trying to send a message. Maybe so, but Thomas is BACK ON THE FIELD a day after we bring in TWO receivers. Now the fun begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapatriot Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 How can we label the WRs busts already? It takes a few years for these guys to be adjusted to the NFL. You can't throw them overboard already. I do like the idea of the Oline signings to try and get those guys moving. But I think ultimately Bugel likes his guys and is going to stick with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROSCOUT Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 Except if the train leaves without Thomas and Kelly, we're screwed for the next 5 years or so. I disagree. Roydell Williams is capable of a 60 catch season if he plays all 16 games. D.J. Hackett could rise up and catch about 50 balls or so....and we have a 7th round draft pick who not only looks good, looks like a carbon copy of Kelly, but this kid is actually HEALTHY. The Redskins world will be much better if Thomas and Kelly get healthy, remain healthy, and perform as well as they did in college, but if they don not...then the world will not end, because we are bringing in new people all the time to compete. I hope we are going to bring in a couple of more receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Some men just want to watch the world burn. It's because some men aren't looking for anything logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROSCOUT Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 After studying a bit about him, I have discovered that Roydell Williams is a possession receiver. He is not a great threat to create double coverage but he is reliable, and has sure hands. He will get you that 6-7 yards you need on 3rd and 6 or he can get you 5 or 6 yards on first down to make it 2nd and 5. Roydell should replace Thrash as the #4 or 5 receiver because he is a younger version. He consistently has caught 50-60 balls in college or in the NFL. Here is the report on him coming out before the draft: BIO: Three year starter awarded All-Conference honors as a senior after leading the team in receiving with 52/862/12. Junior totals included a career high 66/1,006/9. POSITIVES: Consistent pass catcher with reliable hands. Fluid releasing off the line of scrimmage, comes back to the ball and goes up in a crowd to make the difficult catch. Stays low exiting routes, positions himself to make the reception and out muscles or physically defeats opponents. Extends and offers the quarterback a nice target. Tough running after the reception, breaks tackles and picks up positive yardage. NEGATIVES: Possesses built up speed rather than a quick, explosive burst. Choppy footwork into breaks. ANALYSIS: A productive collegiate receiver with good upside for the next level, Williams has fallen under the radar screen in scouting circles the past two seasons. Continually got the job done at Tulane and turned in an outstanding performance at the Senior Bowl when he was a late-week roster addition. Wont' be selected until the later rounds yet could be a very productive fourth wide out at the next level. PROJECTION: Early Third Round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 He consistently has caught 50-60 balls in college or in the NFL. Here is the report on him coming out before the draft: And by consistently, you mean "once." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROSCOUT Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 And by consistently' date=' you mean "once."[/quote']No I mean 2 years in college and 1 year in the NFL, as stated, he has consistently put up those number in college AND the NFL. But I guess that fact may have been overlooked by someone who hates everything about the Redskins. The guy only has THREE seasons under his belt in the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, BEHOLD, yet another negative post from this lombardi's kid brother guy. Nothing like hating everything the Redskins do. Let me ask you. Why don't you simply be honest and tell us which team you REALLY get excited over? Cause its NOT the Redskins. C'mon. Tell us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Man I wish our FO was that smart, but I liked the thought. Oh and great movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbowman Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 I disagree. Roydell Williams is capable of a 60 catch season if he plays all 16 games. D.J. Hackett could rise up and catch about 50 balls or so....and we have a 7th round draft pick who not only looks good, looks like a carbon copy of Kelly, but this kid is actually HEALTHY. I really don't think you can compare Marko to Malcom Kelly. Sorry, but if healthy Malcom has a frame built for going up to fight for catches, and has amazing hands. Marko is tall, but needs to pack on weight before getting slammed around by NFL safties. Kelly without the knee problem was easily high first round talent. Hopefully his recovery is going as well as they say it is, and we're going to have one of the best in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpheusmeyers Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 No I mean 2 years in college and 1 year in the NFL, as stated, he has consistently put up those number in college AND the NFL. But I guess that fact may have been overlooked by someone who hates everything about the Redskins. The guy only has THREE seasons under his belt in the NFL.Ladies and gentlemen, BEHOLD, yet another negative post from this lombardi's kid brother guy. Nothing like hating everything the Redskins do. Let me ask you. Why don't you simply be honest and tell us which team you REALLY get excited over? Cause its NOT the Redskins. C'mon. Tell us. LKB is right. You stated that R. Williams has consistently caught 50-60 balls in college and the NFL. You even bolded AND. In his 3 years in the league he's been in that range once, having caught 55 passes in 2007. In his two other seasons he caught 21 and 8 passes. That's hardly "consistently caught 50-60 passes..." Not saying we shouldn't have brought him in for a look, though. He's probably a longshot to make the roster but hopefully he can provide some decent competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpheusmeyers Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 D.J. Hackett could rise up and catch about 50 balls or so....and we have a 7th round draft pick who not only looks good, looks like a carbon copy of Kelly, but this kid is actually HEALTHY.The Redskins world will be much better if Thomas and Kelly get healthy, remain healthy, and perform as well as they did in college, but if they don not...then the world will not end, because we are bringing in new people all the time to compete. I would be shocked if Hackett caught 50 balls this season. His career best is 45 catches, and he only had 32 and 13 catches the last 2 seasons while playing 6 and 9 games respectively. The guy just can't stay healthy. By the way, Hackett's not even on our roster. And reports are that he is working out for Baltimore this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 If all they are bringing in is camp fodder, how is that sending a message? They are gonna replace them with......what? Kelly and Thomas are afraid because the Redskins keep bringing in and then cutting no names? Seems after the first week of seeing 15 guys come and go they would get used to it and it would have the opposite effect. Why would you applaud the Skins FO for doing what EVERY team in the NFL and college has been doing every year, bringing in a bunch of guys and hoping one of them sticks, a diamond in the rough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROSCOUT Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 If all they are bringing in is camp fodder, how is that sending a message?They are gonna replace them with......what? Kelly and Thomas are afraid because the Redskins keep bringing in and then cutting no names? Seems after the first week of seeing 15 guys come and go they would get used to it and it would have the opposite effect. Why would you applaud the Skins FO for doing what EVERY team in the NFL and college has been doing every year, bringing in a bunch of guys and hoping one of them sticks, a diamond in the rough? Well, let me start with #1. The Redskins DRAFTED a rookie reciever who is the same height and build as Kelly. If that is not a message then I don't know what is, and if you don't see that as a message then visit your local eye doctor. #2....The Skins just signed a 50 catch veteran receiver in Roydell WIlliams and they have also worked out Hackett and Washignton, BOTH veteran receivers who are looking to latch on. The Skins have already shown Thomas and Kelly that there WILL BE a parade of receivers coming in here even as the June cuts are made, and if that isn't sending a message then I don't know what is. P.S. I noticed Thomas was RIGHT back at practice the day after Roydell was signed. Kelly stayed at home because Marco went back to college. Stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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