LD0506 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Have Samuels read this one next.... "I do not like them made by cooks I do not like them pulled on rooks I will not eat them with some beavers I don't want them on wide receivers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 ^^^^ :rubeyes: * :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfWashington Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Hamstrings?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Reason being the hammies act as (1) primary mover in explosive hip extension (propeling the athlete forward) and (2) in slowing down the leg during the knee drive forward. Not sure where you got your information.... but the Glute Max is the primary hip extensor. It's pretty commonly known and acknowledged.... in literature.... everywhere... including the internet You're right about the hamstrings' main function being to decelerate the leg during gait. But again, that would be helped if the "primary" hip extensor and synergist (Glute Max) was carrying it's weight The other synergistic hip extensors aid so little it's not even worth mentioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braindx Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Not sure where you got your information.... but the Glute Max is the primary hip extensor. It's pretty commonly known and acknowledged.... in literature.... everywhere... including the internet You're right about the hamstrings' main function being to decelerate the leg during gait. But again, that would be helped if the "primary" hip extensor and synergist (Glute Max) was carrying it's weight The other synergistic hip extensors aid so little it's not even worth mentioning. Just because I didn't mention gluteus maximus doesn't mean I don't know... :cool: Glute max and the hamstrings synergistically provide explosive hip extension together... the majority being glutes obviously BUT the work done by the hamstrings is two fold which is why they often fatigue much faster and hence are susceptible to strain. And I'm pretty sure most of these athletes don't have inactivated/inhibited glutes.. so I think that's a moot point. Anyway, point being we need our guys to get some high rep eccentric hamstring strength-endurance to buffer them from straining their hamstrings. I don't know why they team keeps on failing to address this. I'm sure their athletics trainers know and can teach better than me...... but they're not showing it if our athletes keep on tweaking/straining their hammies. And it's really pissing me off because we're mediocre when our receivers are crap (especially Moss). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsBry Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Is there even any preventative measures for hamstring injuries? I would think that proper stretching would help. Sometimes, I see people just going through the motions during stretching drills, they're usually the first ones on the sidelines hurting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 And I'm pretty sure most of these athletes don't have inactivated/inhibited glutes.. so I think that's a moot point. And I'm pretty sure most of these athletes don't have inhibited hamstrings either. But it's all about muscle imbalance... as you've said. And I guarantee you the 90% of athletes aren't working their glutes.... and yet 100% are working their quads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annonymous Source Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I think that next offseason snyder should go out in free agency and find the best hamstring specialist in the world and offer them a 9 million signing bonus. that would be one FA pickup that i could support all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh8686 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 And I'm pretty sure most of these athletes don't have inhibited hamstrings either. But it's all about muscle imbalance... as you've said.And I guarantee you the 90% of athletes aren't working their glutes.... and yet 100% are working their quads. They may not have inhibited hamstrings but im sure a majority of them have inflexible hamstrings and hip flexors. They need to have these guys doing overhead squats, that'll point out real quick who has inflexible hamstrings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorfan2179 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 lol, but seriously i'd like to know what the hell they are doing strength and conditioning wise to address this issue. Hopefully their leg training isn't so quad dominant and they have these guys doing PNF stretching on a regular basis. Usually injuries occur due to muscular imbalances and 9 times out of 10 for the guys who actually do train legs, their quadriceps are overly developed in comparison to their hamstrings. problem is the quad is stronger then the hammy, and you want strong quads for that drive. I'm sure tana man works his hammies out pretty good, he has to if he wants to jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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