Reaganaut Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 You get to pick either of them in the same draft. They have both come up as available for the Skins at pick # 13 in the 2009 draft. Who would you take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsOrlando Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Jim Kelly - no question for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 bruce smith did his job. jim kelly choked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Guy. Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Jim Kelly - no question for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmonkforHOF Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Kelly was the 1980's version of Tony Romo sits to pee, catches a ton of breaks/lucky bounces in the regular season, and can't get any of those breaks in the post season. Smith FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Smith. We Skins fans saw him at the end of his career. He was a tremendous player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Damn that's tough but you got to go with the HOF QB over the HOF DE. Bruce got so many sacks because of his offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 kelly had a ton of talent on O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 At the time they were drafted, I would pick Bruce Smith But if we're talking about building a team during the salary cap era- it's a no brainer, Jim Kelly is your pick. Passing up a franchise QB in the cap era is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Bruce Smith. A dominating man-child defensive end who can crash like him is rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I think Bruce Smith is a better DE than Jim Kelly is a QB. However, I think QB is a more important position. and I'm a defense guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Smith. We Skins fans saw him at the end of his career. He was a tremendous player. We must not have been looking at the same guy. I pick Kelly, no question. QB is by far the most important position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dictator Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Bruce Smith. A dominating man-child defensive end who can crash like him is rare. As are HOF Qb's. Which one is going to be the cause of more wins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I think Bruce Smith is a better DE than Jim Kelly is a QB. However, I think QB is a more important position. and I'm a defense guy.QB is more important in the aspect of leadership. But I still think I'd take a dominant DE instead of a very good QB. And I'm an offense guy (coach).As are HOF Qb's. Which one is going to be the cause of more wins? I've heard that defense wins championships... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I've heard that defense wins championships... Yeah, but look at the teams that have actually won championships. The list of QB's is awfully strong, with only a few caretakers like Dilfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 It should be noted that the Bills obviously had both of these players and won no championships. Not to mention a very good WR and a HOF running back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 It should be noted that the Bills obviously had both of these players and won no championships. Not to mention a very good WR and a HOF running back. They should have had 1, the other 2 were blowouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 My sense was always that Kelly was over-rated, partly due to his persona and partly due to the talent/system around him so I'd take Smith. With another HOF QB, it would be a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailinginSeattle Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 A great QB is more valuable than a great DE, however I'd take Bruce Smith easy, he was a beast and a better player than Jim Kelly as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Clicked the wrong one. Jim Kelly is incredibly overrated. Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce was the real deal. Hands down one of the best defensive players to ever strap on a helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 My sense was always that Kelly was over-rated, partly due to his persona and partly due to the talent/system around him so I'd take Smith. With another HOF QB, it would be a different story. That is how I feel about it too. Kelly was fine, but not amazing. Smith was amazing. QB is more important, but.... Now if you were talking Steve Young or Joe Montana, then it would be a no brainer. Kelly... nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I must say im pretty surprised at the results. After the skins starting 20 different ****ty QB's over the past decade, and having zero teams that were considered Super Bowl contenders past week 4 (or really, at any time outside of the free agency period), i would have thought Skins fans would be SCREAMING for a HOF QB, overrated or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaganaut Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 I must say im pretty surprised at the results. After the skins starting 20 different ****ty QB's over the past decade, and having zero teams that were considered Super Bowl contenders past week 4 (or really, at any time outside of the free agency period), i would have thought Skins fans would be SCREAMING for a HOF QB, overrated or not. Yeah, well I started this thread to save me from decimation by Art when I said that I'd rather have Orakpo at 13 than Sanchez. I tried to find a HOF defensive end that compared to a HOF quarterback. This was the easiest because they're on the same team. It still is more important to have a HOF quarterback. I'd take Jim Kelly over Orakpo, but not Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I must say im pretty surprised at the results. After the skins starting 20 different ****ty QB's over the past decade, and having zero teams that were considered Super Bowl contenders past week 4 (or really, at any time outside of the free agency period), i would have thought Skins fans would be SCREAMING for a HOF QB, overrated or not. Yeah, but just to take it to an extreme - Terry Bradshaw is a HOF QB, technically. Would you rather draft him or Lawrence Taylor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Yeah, but just to take it to an extreme - Terry Bradshaw is a HOF QB, technically. Would you rather draft him or Lawrence Taylor? Like you said, it depends on the individual players. Steve Young/Tom Brady/Joe Montana or any defensive end ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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