dieselfan44 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 very impressive....I liked him catching 'beanie" from behind...he never gave up on that on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goflyhelo Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I still get a chuckle knowing we drafted Orakpo out of Texas. Dallas fans already know what is coming after them twice a year. :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Children of the Zorn Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 You just explained why we shouldn't use him at LE. His body is built to be a RE and that is where his skillset is best served. actually i didnt. if we keep him at RE then that would mean carter, who is smaller than rak, would have to switch over to LE. and if im going with what u guys are saying then that would be even worse. only other option is to switch him to LB and put daniels, who i seriously dont want on the line, on the line. u honestly think that philip daniels would do a better job than a younger quicker and stronger orakpo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaBeachRedskin Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 actually i didnt. if we keep him at RE then that would mean carter, who is smaller than rak, would have to switch over to LE. and if im going with what u guys are saying then that would be even worse. only other option is to switch him to LB and put daniels, who i seriously dont want on the line, on the line. u honestly think that philip daniels would do a better job than a younger quicker and stronger orakpo? At LE? Absolutely he would do a better job there than Orakpo would. The only reason for drafting Orakpo should be that he will be replacing Carter at some point in the very near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Children of the Zorn Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 dude ur insane....nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaBeachRedskin Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Drafting a RE to play LE makes about as much sense as a 3-4 team drafting an Tampa 2 OLB. You wouldn't get 3 WILLs to play all your LB spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGnificent Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 our defense should only improve with Orakpo and Haynesworth so I expect us to create more turnovers. I only hope that our offense can improve its time of possesion so that the D gets sufficent rest and doesnt become overwhelmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 he's solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Here's what I love. Watch the play at about 0:40 of the video in the OP. Sniffs out the play action and plays backside contain beautifully. That's a headsy play. I know all the measureables, I like seeing that kind of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 You just explained why we shouldn't use him at LE. His body is built to be a RE and that is where his skillset is best served. So what's your option at LDE? Carter, who is 10 pounds lighter and more lanky than Orakpo? Orakpo, with a proper nutritionist and exercise regimen will be at 270lbs, not lose any speed and will be fine against the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaBeachRedskin Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 So what's your option at LDE? Carter, who is 10 pounds lighter and more lanky than Orakpo? Orakpo, with a proper nutritionist and exercise regimen will be at 270lbs, not lose any speed and will be fine against the run. My option would have been to draft a LE or re-sign Demetric Evans, but since those has past the only legit choice is Phillip Daniels. 270 is still on the light side for a LE, but it is more about knowing his assignments and not losing containment which could be a problem for him if he goes in with the mindset to get to the QB on all downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 My option would have been to draft a LE or re-sign Demetric Evans, but since those has past the only legit choice is Phillip Daniels. 270 is still on the light side for a LE, but it is more about knowing his assignments and not losing containment which could be a problem for him if he goes in with the mindset to get to the QB on all downs. Evans was a role player and SF completely overpayed for his services. We wouldn't have had the cap space this year to get Haynesworth and Hall if we matched SF's offer. Depending on what system you play, 270-280 is the average for most teams that play a 4-3. Let's look at the teams that run the 4-3 and were in the top 10 of defense last year (excluding the Skins): Eagles starting LDE is 6-2 Weight: 250Giants starting LDE is 6-5 Weight: 274 Vikings starting LDE is 6-5 Weight: 268 Titans starting LDE is 6-4 Weight: 265 Buccaneers starting LDE is 6-3 Weight: 268 That averages out to a weight of 265lbs. Apparently it's not as big of an issue as you think. As for containment and run support, that has never been an issue for Orakpo nor mentioned once as a negative in any of the scouting reports that I've seen. I'll let Blache worry about correcting any flaws that the kids has in his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaBeachRedskin Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Evans was a role player and SF completely overpayed for his services. We wouldn't have had the cap space this year to get Haynesworth and Hall if we matched SF's offer. Depending on what system you play, 270-280 is the average for most teams that play a 4-3. Let's look at the teams that run the 4-3 and were in the top 10 of defense last year (excluding the Skins): That averages out to a weight of 265lbs. Apparently it's not as big of an issue as you think. I agree that Evans was overpaid, but what was stopping us from drafting a LE? And if you look at the system that we run our LEs generally tip the scales at 285+. I personally would hate for us to pack that much extra weight on Orakpo as you would lose the reasons why we drafted him for which was his explosiveness and speed rush. Not trying to nitpick, but Kevin Carter was Tampa Bay's LE last season. My whole point is that I don't want what happened last year with Taylor's failed move to LE to happen again this year with Orakpo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squatch66 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 orakpo made loadholt his ***** in those texas ou highlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I agree that Evans was overpaid, but what was stopping us from drafting a LE? And if you look at the system that we run our LEs generally tip the scales at 285+. I personally would hate for us to pack that much extra weight on Orakpo as you would lose the reasons why we drafted him for which was his explosiveness and speed rush. We drafted Orakpo because he was the most complete DE in the draft, not just because of his rushing ability. And we have to get off this thought that LDE's don't rush the passer. Just like a RDE, they have multiple roles. Not trying to nitpick, but Kevin Carter was Tampa Bay's LE last season. True. Missed that, but it still doesn't do much to disprove the facts. My whole point is that I don't want what happened last year with Taylor's failed move to LE to happen again this year with Orakpo. :doh: I can't believe that people forget that Taylor had TWO separate injuries last year that prevented him from playing at 100%. His play was severely hindered due to this. He was NEVER a run liability in Miami at either DE or LB. Please think of another excuse for not wanting Orakpo at LDE, this is absolutely not valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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