Burgold Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 The Bengals were bad last year, but somehow they fought three out of four NFC East teams to either overtime or won. What made them so effective? What can we learn from them offensively or defensively or player rotation that could help us. It can't be pure coincidence that the Bengals always played competively against the NFC East teams. They must have found something... recognized something. Do you have any idea what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahbird Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 They were overlooked. Pure and simple. The NFC Beast had a target on its back last season, other teams played up to match the level of the "best and toughest division in the NFL." The results were pretty much even against the good teams (pittsburgh, bodymore, ect.) because everyone knew those teams were essentially as tough as an NFC east team, but not the bungles. Every team in the NFC East looked over or past them. It is hard to get up for every team every week, especially when that other team is dog ****. That, coupled with the bungles desire to hang with the big boys, to prove themselves against the annointed, led to a bad team beating a disproportionate number of good teams from the same division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timdaley73 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 This is a joke, right? They lost to Giants and the Cowboys. They tied Eagles and beat only 1 team in NFC East... Yes, the Washington Redskins... Please research before you start this crappy thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 This is a joke, right? They lost to Giants and the Cowboys. They tied Eagles and beat only 1 team in NFC East... Yes, the Washington Redskins... Please research before you start this crappy thread! A little bit of a dick way of saying it, but he has you there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 The bengals have to play the ravens and steelers each year. Probably the #1 and #2 defense so they had some practice going up against tough defenses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 well they took the giants to overtime, something we couldnt do. they took the eagles to overtime and a tie. they embarrassed us, and they lost to the cowboys by a small margin. OP is wrong about them winning. he would have been better served saying "how were the bengals able to remain so competitive against clearly better teams?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted April 29, 2009 Author Share Posted April 29, 2009 BLC and my angry antagonist are both correct. I had a quick memory of the Bengals doing really well in three NFC East games. Point still kind of stands and the title's good, but my memory of the final score was faulty. Two overtimes and a win is very competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timdaley73 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 A little bit of a dick way of saying it, but he has you there A dick way?? I was just stating facts! It is a fact that they lost 2, tied 1, beat the Redskins, and this thread is CRAP!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted April 29, 2009 Author Share Posted April 29, 2009 A dick way?? I was just stating facts! It is a fact that they lost 2, tied 1, beat the Redskins, and this thread is CRAP!! I apologize for driving over your cat. I swear it was an accident. and no, I didn't run over his cat. Just my way of dealing with the anger issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapatriot Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Its a pretty good question. I'm tempted to say they just got lucky but they were competitive against all 4 NFC East teams. Did Palmer start in all of those games? I can't remember but I do know he played against Dallas and gave them a run for thier money. But we had trouble with loser teams all year. We lost to the Bengals, 49ers, and Rams (the Cowboys did too). We almost lost to the Lions and Browns. Maybe we just have a hard time with loser teams I don't really know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 take a look at the games though too. giants game - palmer was still playing QB. when palmer plays QB, the bengals are competitive. cowboys game - same story. whenever palmer is behind center, you cant count the bengals out. eagles game - mcnabb had 4 turnovers. and it was still tied. redskins - we were a bottom 5 team in the last 8 weeks of the season. the bengals were playing better football, and we just sucked, plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timdaley73 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Before anyone misunderstands my comments. The OP has edited his original post to correct the mistated facts! He has originally stated that the Bengals had beaten 3 of 4 NFC East teams last year and I had to correct him. So, I was questioning his lack of research! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peeping Wizard Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 A dick way?? I was just stating facts! It is a fact that they lost 2, tied 1, beat the Redskins, and this thread is CRAP!! Perhaps but you ARE being harsh about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucfSKINS Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Before anyone misunderstands my comments. The OP has edited his original post to correct the mistated facts! He has originally stated that the Bengals had beaten 3 of 4 NFC East teams last year and I had to correct him. So, I was questioning his lack of research! No one cares. Close post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatturkishguy Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Well I think if we generalize the question it becomes more legitimate. Why do the skins seem to play down to inferior opponents? Why do teams like New England and New York seemed to blow out the people that should have been blown out? I know I'm comparing the skins to teams that have been dominate recently but it is aggravating. It can't be QB leadership, Eli couldn't motivate himself out of a paper bag. I think it has to be coaching and the lack of a strict disciplinarian at the helm. I remember last pre-season hearing things from Skins players especially Portis saying how much more relaxed Zorn ran things compared to Gibbs. I can't imagine them saying the same thing about Belichick. I don't know it just seems like when you have a charismatic leader at the helm, the players are concerned about disappointing him and always bring their A game, do you think Zorn can bring that to the table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Because the only team they beat featured JC as starting qb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanyt Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 What the hell I'll take a shot at it... I would say it might have something to do with Marv Lewis at one time being our D coordinator, and now the H.C. of the Bungals... So playing these teams 2 times a year he probably had studied enough Game Film and figured out teams/coaches tendencies/and what weapons they have/dont have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky52Mc Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I think for us, playing in that stadium that time of year with their wierd QB and just a bunch of other things going on. Clinton Portis drama, and loss of momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger187126 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 they have an extremely underrated defense. and they still have pro bowl talent at the WR position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Because the only team they beat featured JC as starting qb? He went there :munchout: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Palmer, when healthy, is extremely underrated. For some unknown reason (besides the gagillion dollars they offered him), he's basically signed to the Bungals for life. If he went to any other team that had a good structure and support around him, he'd be hoisting at least one Lombardi by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardSkins88 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 A dick way?? I was just stating facts! It is a fact that they lost 2, tied 1, beat the Redskins, and this thread is CRAP!! Dude, pull the thong out of your ass before you post. Just because they didnt beat all of the teams in our division does not mean they didnt remain competetive. Overtime in New York where they were a missed field goal away from winning the game, overtime in Philly which resulted in a tie in the first time in years, they lost to the cowboys in the final minutes of the 4th quarter, and they beat us. They clearly were competetive against way better teams, i don't think this is a terrible thread at all, your just a jackass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderDOOM Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 its the water up there. Georgetown and Al Groh's squad do the same ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 Thanks for the defense, guys. I just thought it might be interesting to talk about something other than Campbell and Orakpo. The relative success of the Bengals against the NFC East seemed intriguing to me. Why was this sucky team so competitive? The Palmer stuff makes sense and could explain why they were sucky at other times (when he was out), but I suspect there's more. Hopefully if there is our coaching staff can figure it out and exploit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 The fact that you believe 1-1-2 is relatively successful and should be the model to follow is a joke. You want to bring up probably JC's worst game ever as a QB and wonder why we didn't beat a 1 win team? And if they are so sucky why did they beat us? But then again, you don't want to talk about the QB in this thread. However, you want to talk about sucky. So, why don't we begin with sucky thread topics, a subject you are well versed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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