Why Can't Campbell be the backup?

[tiger187126]

Figuratively, I don't think he ever was actually the water boy.

figuratively, i think there's only one NFL starter in this picture

hint: nfl qbs wear helmets. third stringers don't have to suit up since there are two player in front of them who is better at the position than they are

[mnb123]

figuratively, i think there's only one NFL starter in this picture

hint: nfl qbs wear helmets. third stringers don't have to suit up since there are two player in front of them who is better at the position than they are

Figuratively, he was coming off of hip surgery and couldn't participate in that mini-camp

[tiger187126]

Figuratively, he was coming off of hip surgery and couldn't participate in that mini-camp

Literally he backs up these two:

[pocampo]

I still don't know why so many of you are so hot for Colt Brennen. He really dosen't have much potential to be a starting QB.

THANK YOU!

Many people dont realize what type of competition Colt played while he was still at Hawaii. Teams that were consistently terrible year in and year out and when they finally played a team of actual strength (Georgia) they got destroyed.

Plus, you put anyone behind that offensive line and they are just destined for trouble. More consistency is definately needed up front before they can start pointing fingers at JC.

Would you agree that Colt played against better players then the bulldogs, in pre season? Unless u think the Bulldogs first team is better then what Colt played against in pre season. Get my point, In fact one of The same Bulldogs players got burnt playing Colt in pre season!!!! I think his name is Howard but I could be wrong about the name. Now the next thing is the up front you talk about. Now watch this Tube. This is how you Burn teams that try to blitz you, And make your line look better!!!! Listen what the comentaters say to. I just want Colt to get a chance with the first string. When he does get that chance if he screws the pooch, Lets move on to CD but if he looks better then JC it will hurt to know your 6 round draft pick played better then your first round guy, But you will know, If he sucks hey it only cost us a 6 round pick!!! Here's the tube!!! Enjoy

[Hooper]

Preseason is meaningless for the most part. Collins looked terrible at times in preseason under Gibbs. Then he got his shot and the Redskins finally looked like a real NFL offense.

Speaking of preseason, here's Campbell first action as a rookie in the preseason.

[ExoDus84]

Preseason is meaningless for the most part. Collins looked terrible at times in preseason under Gibbs. Then he got his shot and the Redskins finally looked like a real NFL offense.

Speaking of preseason, here's Campbell first action as a rookie in the preseason.

Yeah, 1 pass? Any video of his other passes?

[nightbird]

Do the Colt-lovers realize how much animosity they're building up among Skins fans against the guy?

I mean, I hope he turns into a useful player for us, but I'm starting to actively dislike him even though he's done absolutely nothing wrong -- it's just fatigue from one whole year of irrational arguments on his behalf.

Seriously, Jim Zorn had a long career as an NFL quarterback, and he followed that up with a long career coaching NFL quarterbacks. Don't you think he's got a better idea than the rest of us about what Colt Brennan can do?

He wants to win just as much as you do . . . he wants to keep cashing Danny's checks. If he thought CB could help us win, he'd put him in there.

[addicted]

I dont understand threads like this one. Jason Campbell is an average QB who likely is on the fast track out of town but what did Colt do to make anyone believe he is better then Jason last preseason? Sure he put up some great numbers over 5 games against 3rd stringers but not against the better competition. He needs to show me something this preseason to really be in any starting QB discussion

[modazfuk]

Also, I'd prefer you didn't assume I use the same backward logic as some of the others on here.

Alright, fair enough. Bookmarked for future reference (if needed)

[CapitalDefense]

Originally Posted by bubba9497

Let me look into my burgudy & gold crystal ball:

1. Campbell will not be traded

2. Sanchez will not be drafted by the Skins

3. All the "honest" doubters, will be posting "JC apology" threads come January, 2010

What about the Campbell homers, what will they do when Campbell fails as a starting QB again? 8 offenses in 20 years, maybe? no offensive line like ben rothlisberger, maybe?

[tiger187126]

Do the Colt-lovers realize how much animosity they're building up among Skins fans against the guy?

I mean, I hope he turns into a useful player for us, but I'm starting to actively dislike him even though he's done absolutely nothing wrong -- it's just fatigue from one whole year of irrational arguments on his behalf.

Seriously, Jim Zorn had a long career as an NFL quarterback, and he followed that up with a long career coaching NFL quarterbacks. Don't you think he's got a better idea than the rest of us about what Colt Brennan can do?

He wants to win just as much as you do . . . he wants to keep cashing Danny's checks. If he thought CB could help us win, he'd put him in there.

+1

they will never understand though. logic escapes them.

marcus mason, anthony mix, billy mcmullen, the list goes on.

[Hooper]

Do the Colt-lovers realize how much animosity they're building up among Skins fans against the guy?

I mean, I hope he turns into a useful player for us, but I'm starting to actively dislike him even though he's done absolutely nothing wrong -- it's just fatigue from one whole year of irrational arguments on his behalf.

Seriously, Jim Zorn had a long career as an NFL quarterback, and he followed that up with a long career coaching NFL quarterbacks. Don't you think he's got a better idea than the rest of us about what Colt Brennan can do?

He wants to win just as much as you do . . . he wants to keep cashing Danny's checks. If he thought CB could help us win, he'd put him in there.

Agree 100 percent. Great post.

And anyone -- even JC doubters like myself -- who saw Colt's weak passes getting batted down left and right in training camp knows he has a long way to go.

[tiger187126]

What about the Campbell homers, what will they do when Campbell fails as a starting QB again? 8 offenses in 20 years, maybe? no offensive line like ben rothlisberger, maybe?

you don't have to worry about it, his contract is up.

but why you wouldn't root for the starter is beyond me.

i guess you're hatred of the a starter on this team is more important than this team being successful.

oh, and big ben is one of only 2 qbs to win 2 sb's and not win mvp in either. he has worse stats than campbell.

he is the result of what happens when you have a dominant running game/defense and a game manager at qb.

this matchup is more favorable for campbell than you think.

[NewCliche21]

you don't have to worry about it, his contract is up.

but why you wouldn't root for the starter is beyond me.

i guess you're hatred of the a starter on this team is more important than this team being successful.

oh, and big ben is one of only 2 qbs to win 2 sb's and not win mvp in either. he has worse stats than campbell.

he is the result of what happens when you have a dominant running game/defense and a game manager at qb.

this matchup is more favorable for campbell than you think.

Don't mix up facts and ES. Oil and water right there.

Campbell haters are just that, Campbell haters. They're not Redskins fans because they care more about Campbell failing than the Redskins winning. Of course, these are the same guys who will say the same thing about whoever's behind center. The same guys who were screaming for Campbell in 2006. They just hate everything and would have run Theismann out of town at the same point.

[terpskins10]

Agree 100 percent. Great post.

And anyone -- even JC doubters like myself -- who saw Colt's weak passes getting batted down left and right in training camp knows he has a long way to go.

Yeah. I also know he had good preseason numbers, but I actually didn't come away all THAT impressed. I know one of this throws looked straight out of Madden, the one over the middle at the Colts game. The defender jumped too early and actually beat the ball to the spot, and then the ball went behind him. If that was Bob Sanders, it would have been an easy pick.

The TD pass in the Jets game was off his back foot into some coverage and I don't know that he completes those passes in the regular season.

He's got a lot of raw talent, but I just don't see the preseason as an indication of much. He looked good at times, and bad at times, and some of the things that made him look so good were things an NFL head coach would be infuriated to see.

[Santana_89]

Do the Colt-lovers realize how much animosity they're building up among Skins fans against the guy?

I mean, I hope he turns into a useful player for us, but I'm starting to actively dislike him even though he's done absolutely nothing wrong -- it's just fatigue from one whole year of irrational arguments on his behalf.

Seriously do you Campbell coddlers realize how FED UP slot of us are with your excuses and whining about what Jason deserves when he's done NOTHING to warrant him being the starting qb let alone # 2?

I mean how many irrational excuses are you going to come up with just so the prepetual 27 year old 5 year rookie qb can stink it up YET another YEAR and blame everyone and everything from the sun ,to the football, for the reason he is NOT successful. And when another qb with the skills for the WCOcomes in and suddenly the old,broke down o line doesn't look quite so bad and those midget receivers can suddenly catch and get seperation...Then what?????

[modazfuk]

Yeah. I also know he had good preseason numbers, but

It depends on what you're comfortable with. Do you want your QB to only throw when his receiver(s) are wide open or do you want your QB to try to make plays?

Brennan is a play-maker, so with that obviously comes risk. If Snyder and Zorn are afraid of taking risks, then a conservative minded QB is the man for the job.

[rmill11]

Would you agree that Colt played against better players then the bulldogs, in pre season? Unless u think the Bulldogs first team is better then what Colt played against in pre season. Get my point, In fact one of The same Bulldogs players got burnt playing Colt in pre season!!!! I think his name is Howard but I could be wrong about the name. Now the next thing is the up front you talk about. Now watch this Tube. This is how you Burn teams that try to blitz you, And make your line look better!!!! Listen what the comentaters say to. I just want Colt to get a chance with the first string. When he does get that chance if he screws the pooch, Lets move on to CD but if he looks better then JC it will hurt to know your 6 round draft pick played better then your first round guy, But you will know, If he sucks hey it only cost us a 6 round pick!!! Here's the tube!!! Enjoy

Two things that lessen the validity of your point:

You say he burned teams that try to blitz yet the first 5 seconds are him getting sacked.

And I just dont see how you think he MADE that play. He threw a 8 yard pass over the middle and Jason Goode just ran 40 yards by himself and Brennan had nothing to do with the play.

Listen, I hope Brennan can be good in the long run. Im not hoping for the man to do terribly. But for the team right NOW, JC is the guy and he deserves the job

[Hooper]

Seriously do you Campbell coddlers realize how FED UP slot of us are with your excuses and whining about what Jason deserves when he's done NOTHING to warrant him being the starting qb let alone # 2?

I mean how many irrational excuses are you going to come up with just so the prepetual 27 year old 5 year rookie qb can stink it up YET another YEAR and blame everyone and everything from the sun ,to the football, for the reason he is NOT successful. And when another qb with the skills for the WCOcomes in and suddenly the old,broke down o line doesn't look quite so bad and those midget receivers can suddenly catch and get seperation...Then what?????

My problem isn't the criticism of Campbell. Hell, I thought he should have got the hook after the Bengals game. No, the problem is the Cult of Colt acting like Brennan is the next Tom Brady. Maybe he is. That would be awesome. Clearly the coaching staff doesn't think so however. For one thing, they let it be known Collins would be the starter had they traded for Sanchez. Which would have made sense. After all, the best the Redskins offense has looked in ages was when he was under center, product of the system or not.

[Skins_Win_Again]

Seriously do you Campbell coddlers realize how FED UP slot of us are with your excuses and whining about what Jason deserves when he's done NOTHING to warrant him being the starting qb let alone # 2?

I mean how many irrational excuses are you going to come up with just so the prepetual 27 year old 5 year rookie qb can stink it up YET another YEAR and blame everyone and everything from the sun ,to the football, for the reason he is NOT successful. And when another qb with the skills for the WCOcomes in and suddenly the old,broke down o line doesn't look quite so bad and those midget receivers can suddenly catch and get seperation...Then what?????

most people on ES are "fans" but they know nothing about football. You're like a lot of fans, impatient, unaware how football really works, and too stubborn to listen to people who actually know the game.

If you were driving one day and someone ran a red light and creamed you wouldnt you say you got in an accident cause of the other driver? Well according to you guys that would be an 'excuse' So when the o-line cant give anything for portis or Campbell or our team hasn't learned the WCO fully CLEARLY stating facts is considered an excuse.

I don't understand why people strut around thinking that because they learned the smallest bit about football that they should be on ESPN talking.

[terpskins10]

It depends on what you're comfortable with. Do you want your QB to only throw when his receiver(s) are wide open or do you want your QB to try to make plays?

Brennan is a play-maker, so with that obviously comes risk. If Snyder and Zorn are afraid of taking risks, then a conservative minded QB is the man for the job.

I'm not going to deny that Brennan would rather make the big play that go for the safe throw.

But I'm just talking about throws he made in preseason that flat out wouldn't be possible to do, even for Brett Favre, in the regular season. Like the one I mentioned. If you go back and watch it really close, the defender beats the ball to the spot, and ends up being too early and the ball zings behind his ear into triple coverage. If that's Bob Sanders, he's picking it off. That's what I'm saying.

[SoCalSkins]

I'm not going to deny that Brennan would rather make the big play that go for the safe throw.

But I'm just talking about throws he made in preseason that flat out wouldn't be possible to do, even for Brett Favre, in the regular season. Like the one I mentioned. If you go back and watch it really close, the defender beats the ball to the spot, and ends up being too early and the ball zings behind his ear into triple coverage. If that's Bob Sanders, he's picking it off. That's what I'm saying.

Colt woud also have Santana, Cooley, ARE and Portis as weapons when Bob Sanders is playing. He wouldn't need to throw into triple coverage.

[ZoEd]

I wrote this in another thread but feel like it deserves its own.

No, it didn't deserve ANOTHER Campbell thread.

How about we start a Campbell thread every 5 minutes until the season starts.

Hey, let's start Campbell at LB.

Make him Jansens backup.

How about punter?

Special teams.

Fullback.

Seriously, will the insanity stop? I keep coming to the Stadium hoping for some news and there's no less than 10 Campbell threads on the front page. :doh:

[pocampo]

Two things that lessen the validity of your point:

You say he burned teams that try to blitz yet the first 5 seconds are him getting sacked.

And I just dont see how you think he MADE that play. He threw a 8 yard pass over the middle and Jason Goode just ran 40 yards by himself and Brennan had nothing to do with the play.

Listen, I hope Brennan can be good in the long run. Im not hoping for the man to do terribly. But for the team right NOW, JC is the guy and he deserves the job

I will be the first to tell you its JC job to lose!!! But we at least need a open comp, and we can all see for our self who win's It. might be CD

But to watch that tube and listen to what they say that's HOW you make your line look better, Ya he got sacked and then shook it of. and scored, Saying that Brennan had nothing to do with that play, Is well, I'll leave it at that, LOL, Face it a third string QB is one of the most popular Redskin Just get over it!!!! The guys like Colt, Maddan likes Colt, Carsen Palmer likes colt, So what !!!! Its the way it is, I think JC handled the FO wanting to trade him in a great way, Now he needs to earn is JOB period, And all the excuses have to stop, Its so lame they make excuses, why JC plays bad, Then turn around and make excuses why Colt played so good, You just did it again by what you said above :doh:, Now here is the deal has far as I'm consered you put JC in see how he does then put CB in see how he does. And let the chips fall has they may!!!

One last thing, June jones says a QB can do everything right, But what happens to him when pressure come's is what makes a great QB, This is what JC needs to work on!! Next. The first game this year will be a make or break game for JC lets see how JC does in New Jersy. But if he messes up in that game, It could be a long year for him, And we might be watching Chase lead the team to the playoffs!!!

[veteranskinsfan]

I think JC could be a good back-up and that he might even benefit from watching another qb while sitting on the bench. If he were to lose the starting job for the first game of the year then he would have to sit regardless if he liked it or not. In the old days, a coach could sit the starter and then bench him and a game or two later the coach would put the original starter back in and he would perform better. It would make sense if he falters in the first few games that Coach Zorn would yank him. Coach Z can't afford another 8-8 season for his longevity.