skeenzfan Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 While I am not a fan of Campbell who is to say how Brennan will perform. I hate it when people assume that he will be the next big thing. He hasn't thrown a single pass in the NFL so who is to say he won't be worse than Campbell. It is all speculation at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Colt did not show enough last preseason to warrant this kind of belief. Depends on who you ask. Some people believed he showed enough to warrant a pre-season bid to the Pro Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Depends on who you ask. Some people believed he showed enough to warrant a pre-season bid to the Pro Bowl. i gotta ask, if anybody cares to look it up. have we had a QB in the last 10 years that was as good in the preseason as colt was? ive been on this board for a few years and colt is the first guy ive ever seen get all this love. weve had other guys come in, bramlett if i remember, that people wanted as our backup but nothing more. colt is the only guy at the QB position who has showed anything to us in the preseason, yet people act like theres a "colt brennan" every year. just wondered if anyone can name examples of past CB5s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapatriot Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 JC would be a perfect backup but I think there are two reasons he won't be for us: 1. When you have a new QB you typically don't want the old one hanging around breathing down your neck (Patrick Ramsey, Mark Brunell). You want your QB feeling like he is the leader. 2. JC feels he's a starter and thats what he wants to do. No one wants to sit on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCitySkins Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 i gotta ask, if anybody cares to look it up. have we had a QB in the last 10 years that was as good in the preseason as colt was? ive been on this board for a few years and colt is the first guy ive ever seen get all this love.weve had other guys come in, bramlett if i remember, that people wanted as our backup but nothing more. colt is the only guy at the QB position who has showed anything to us in the preseason, yet people act like theres a "colt brennan" every year. just wondered if anyone can name examples of past CB5s. Colt was outstanding in two games. Horrible in two games. Who's to know which Colt we would get when playing against the 1st string defenses and not the 3rd string defenses. I think I know which one Zorn thinks would play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 He had hardly noone to throw to last year in a new offense, C'mon give the guy a break already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 i gotta ask, if anybody cares to look it up. have we had a QB in the last 10 years that was as good in the preseason as colt was? ive been on this board for a few years and colt is the first guy ive ever seen get all this love.weve had other guys come in, bramlett if i remember, that people wanted as our backup but nothing more. colt is the only guy at the QB position who has showed anything to us in the preseason, yet people act like theres a "colt brennan" every year. just wondered if anyone can name examples of past CB5s. To be honest, it's still preseason, and it still doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modazfuk Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 To be honest, it's still preseason, and it still doesn't matter. Ahh...But if Brennan had stunk it up like Booty did or was just mediocre like most of the other rookie QBs, then pre-season would have mattered, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Colt was outstanding in two games. Horrible in two games. Who's to know which Colt we would get when playing against the 1st string defenses and not the 3rd string defenses. I think I know which one Zorn thinks would play. he played in 5 games. he was outstanding in two of them, very good in another, and played meh in the other two. he wasnt throwing picks, he just wasnt completing a lot of passes, but again, one of them he threw 8 and the other 12. he was 50% in both games, not very good, but hardly horrible. again, im not saying colt WILL be a monster, but id like to find out. zorn can make all the guesses he wants, he doesnt know either whether colt will succeed or fail, and no one will until he hits the field on game day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 To be honest, it's still preseason, and it still doesn't matter. if preseason didnt matter, there wouldnt be a preseason at all. its a place to see what guys can do against competition, and for guys to get back into game shape with reps at their position. preseason is important, whether you wanna acknowledge it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Ahh...But if Brennan had stunk it up like Booty did or was just mediocre like most of the other rookie QBs, then pre-season would have mattered, right? No, actually. It still doesn't matter to me. I'm not going to use a double standard, so sorry if I rained on your parade . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 It's really very simple. You don't invest 2 first round picks and 2 years of bench time in a guy to be your backup in his fifth season. If he is the backup, the entire last five years of trying to develop him is a complete failure. That won't sit. That and he is the best QB on the team at this moment. I know everyone loves Colt Brennan, but I think I'll wait til I see Brennan play against an actual starter or two before I make my judgments. Fourth quarter preseason heroics make great stories, but they don't often pan out to making great QBs. I'd love to see what he's got if Campbell fails this year, because if he fails this year (and I mean FAILS) you can jettison him knowing you gave him every chance and a great deal of patience. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 if preseason didnt matter, there wouldnt be a preseason at all. its a place to see what guys can do against competition, and for guys to get back into game shape with reps at their position. Then let me know when Brennan plays against competition. Then I'll be the first to concede I was wrong about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Then let me know when Brennan plays against competition. Then I'll be the first to concede I was wrong about him. and i will have no problem admitting if hes terrible. i would just like to KNOW. weve seen 36 games with campbell, id love to see 5 of colt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modazfuk Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 See that "pro-style" QB from USC down there?:hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamboater Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Announcing JC as the starter last year was the first step in Zorns plan. He probably felt that Campbell lacked confidence but had enough physical upside to be a good/great QB. I do believe an open competition this year is needed. We dont have to worry about trade status with JC so if he is not the best QB, then so be it. I have to think he would get the chance on other teams to compete for the starting role at least. He isnt going to sign a long term deal thinking he is simply a backup QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 see and looking those numbers, a falcons fan would have said "theres nothing to lead me to believe matt ryan should start next season". and he'd be right, he had a mediocre preseason. but what happened? we all know. same goes for joe flacco, who admittedly i think isnt that good, but he was still able to play ok. and youd never think that from his preseason numbers. so all im saying is colt deserves a chance, and if he sucks, we all know he sucks, theres no more debate, and we move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnb123 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 See that "pro-style" QB from USC down there?:hysterical: Noone ever claimed that John David Booty was any good. He is a blemish on their list of highly recruited, highly achieving, highly drafted QB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamboater Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 See that "pro-style" QB from USC down there?:hysterical: No Im not saying Colt will be the best QB ever. But, look at his completion % and compare that to his completion % in college....you can see a major similarity. I still think he deserves at least a chance to play with the starters. If he sucks, thats fine....at least we can stop these debates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modazfuk Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 No, actually. It still doesn't matter to me.I'm not going to use a double standard. Oh yeah? Well, in the unlikely event Brennan pulls a Booty, we'll see as I'm sure the other ES anti-Colt'sters will be all over it cuz pre-season will suddenly be meaningful. Thats just how it works - no surprise there. Then let me know when Brennan plays against competition. Then I'll be the first to concede I was wrong about him. Again, anything can be spun to support ones' views. What exactly is competition? Lets say Brennan gets a shot at week 13, against the Saints and week 14, against the Raiders, and lights them up. The anti-Coltsters will predictably say "those defenses suck - anyone can look good against them". See how that works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englands Team Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I think Campbell will start the season but he will not get too long. They tried to trade him for Cutler. They were openly trying to get Sanchez. They have not given him a new contract. Doesnt take much working out. The only way I see Campbell at the Redskins during 2010 season is tagged as the franchise player. If the cap is still here. For that he will nedd a break out season of Drew Brees proportions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 This Colt stuff is ridiculous. Do you know how many backups look good in preseason? Most of them. It's meaningless. He also looked terrible in practice by several accounts. I like the kid too, but come on, get a grip people. But here's the good news for... well, every Redskins fan, no matter what qb they have a mancrush on. There will be one big difference this season. There will be a leash on JC. If the offense struggles with him under center, you can be damn sure Collins or Colt will get a look. Maybe both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 This Colt stuff is ridiculous. Do you know how many backups look good in preseason? Most of them. It's meaningless. He also looked terrible in practice by several accounts. I like the kid too, but come on, get a grip people.But here's the good news for... well, every Redskins fan, no matter what qb they have a mancrush on. There will be one big difference this season. There will be a leash on JC. If the offense struggles with him under center, you can be damn sure Collins or Colt will get a look. Maybe both. at least for me, and im hoping others, we just wanna see colt get a shot. if hes awful, super, we'll at least know hes not the QB for us. but just claiming hes bad right off the bat after what he did in college and how good he looked at times in preseason seems kinda silly to just not give him a shot, especially if JC struggles early on. again, we all know what collins is. weve seen him play, at least in saunders system. colt is still that mystery that everyone wants to know about it. is he good? does he suck? find out at 11! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 at least for me, and im hoping others, we just wanna see colt get a shot. if hes awful, super, we'll at least know hes not the QB for us. but just claiming hes bad right off the bat after what he did in college and how good he looked at times in preseason seems kinda silly to just not give him a shot, especially if JC struggles early on.again, we all know what collins is. weve seen him play, at least in saunders system. colt is still that mystery that everyone wants to know about it. is he good? does he suck? find out at 11! Don't worry. If the coaches think they can win more games with Colt under center, he'll get his chance. It's clear Snyder has soured on JC. Unlike last year, Zorn will have no mandate to start him. I truly believe the leash will be short on JC this year. And Zorn has already publicly said Colt will play a ton in preseason -- I bet some of that time is with the first stringers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_89 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 What's with this: Because he's the best quarterback on our roster comment? Really when Jason Campbell was handed the starting job he wasn't the best qb on the roster. He has never ever looked half way as good as Colt did in pre season EVER. Last year Colt was also coming off hip sugery and was trying to do all he could resonably do to make the team.I've also heard some of you poo on Colt's 3TD's in pre season. Yet Jason who was the starter threw one and he was the one who clearly needed to be out on the field more tha what he was. It's funny to see some of you hold Colt(or anybody else who threatens Jason) to a standard that Jason himself has never achieved. Having to earn the #2 position let alone the privilege to be the UNQUESTIONED starter from November 2006 until April 2009. Jason Campbell hasn't shown ANYTHING so ****ing spectacular to think that Colt Brennan,Chase Daniels,Todd Collins,Casey Bramlet,Jordan Palmer,Sam Hollenbach or Derek Devine couldn't do? It's not like we've has winning seasons with Jason either.Every year with him at the helm we've been sitting at home come January.So is 5-11,7-9 any better than 8-8 it's still losing right? Tell Todd Collins to hold onto the ball and don't turn it over. I betcha he's have low INT's and 13 or so TD's as well. Tell me again why Jason deserves to be the starting qb again:D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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