Wyndorf25 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-9-98/Five-burning-draft-questions-in-The-Beast.html 1. Will Redskins owner Dan Snyder select USC quarterback Mark Sanchez? Sanchez Mosley: With the 13th pick overall, the Redskins should only take Sanchez if they've truly given up on Jason Campbell. And based on their recent attempt to land Jay Cutler, some of you probably think Washington has already turned its back on Campbell. Well, I think we have a split vote on that one at Redskins Park. And unfortunately for Campbell backers (me), head coach Jim Zorn can't win a contest against the formidable duo of Snyder and Vinny Cerrato. It was Zorn who moved quickly to reassure Campbell even while desperate attempts were being made to land Cutler several doors down. Snyder and Cerrato met with Campbell, but that was simply window dressing. The club decided to take Campbell's trade value for a spin -- and it didn't like the results. After investing all this time (and a first-round pick) in Campbell, it's looking like the Redskins are ready to start all over with Sanchez, who dazzled scouts and innocent bystanders at his recent pro day. I think Snyder-Cerrato are suffering from a condition we're calling "RyanFlacconitis," which has caused front office types around the league to mistakenly think that pretty much any rookie quarterback with a solid background (Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco) can lead them to the playoffs. The best result for Redskins fans would be for Sanchez to go off the board before No. 13. I may be in the minority (shocker), but I'd love to see what Campbell could do in his second season with Zorn. Who knows? Maybe the Redskins let Sanchez learn for a season behind Campbell. On second thought, that will never happen. 4. Don't the Redskins need a pass-rusher? Could all this talk about Mark Sanchez be a huge smokescreen? If so, the Washington Post has bitten hard. That's why I think there's definitely some interest in Sanchez, but it won't happen in the end. The 'Skins desperately need a right tackle and a defensive end. I certainly respect the work of grizzled veterans such as Phillip Daniels, Andre Carter and the immortal Renaldo Wynn. That said, Redskins fans are suffering from a condition widely known as "Haynesworth fever." There's a thought that you pay the guy $41 million in guaranteed money and he suddenly makes old men young again. Folks, Phil Daniels isn't going to return from a serious knee injury and suddenly have 10 sacks. The Redskins need to surround Haynesworth with talent in order to get their money's worth. That's why Snyder has to forget about a quarterback and find a way to get his hands on Brian Orakpo. Yes, I know some scouts struggle with recommending University of Texas kids because they've been pampered so much, but Orakpo is the real deal. I've been watching him manhandle Big 12 blockers for years. Snyder and Cerrato have to find a way to move up and get him. ------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree with Mosely. I'd like to see what JC can do in his second year int the WCO with an improved O-line. Rolling with JC for one more year would allow the team to address other areas of concern like the RT position, DE and/or OLB. However, if Snyder has truly made up his mind that no matter what JC does this year, he is gone simply because he no longer likes him, then drafting Sanchez might make sense. I just don't want the Skins to trade up to get Sanchez. Too much value for too much uncertainty, IMO. EDIT--sorry, Bubba. Didn't see this posted in the "breaking news"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABSTRACT Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Waiting for the pessimists and negatives to flood in with the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benskins26 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I agree, move up and get Orakpo. The only problem is, with no 2nd, we have no ammunition. And I'd hate to give up our 1st next year, especially if JC doesn't work. Next year's draft is THE quarterback draft, and if we tank next year with JC at the helm, we won't have a pony in the race next year. It's kinda lose/lose. Thanks a lot Vinny for JT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsciambi Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I'm 100% against moving up for Sanchez. Actually, I disagree with trying to draft him at all. Not sure how I feel about moving up for Orakpo. I think if we still had that 2nd round pick it might be worth it, but with as few picks as we have, I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffmark1 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I think with o line help the skins offense could click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nafniksder Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I really hope this Sanchez talk is a smoke screen, but I don't put anything past Synder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 That was a beautifully written article. Kinda sad it has ESPN on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHendrix Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I hope they don't trade up in this draft, regardless of who they pick by doing so. Take the best player available at one of our need positions or try to trade down. Please. Pretty please, even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsdude Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I would prefer not to move up in the draft. However, if we do move up and take a defensive player, I will have even more questions about the competency of the front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger187126 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 we can trade...backwards if no one we want is at thirteen. there is no player worth up trading up for because we can sit back and address our major needs with the picks we have right now. trading up for a non-need position, like qb, will just set us back further and further from being a relevant team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Could all this talk about Mark Sanchez be a huge smokescreen? If so, the Washington Post has bitten hard. wouldn't be the first time :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWCREDSKINS Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Redskins need to seriously forget about Sanchez. Trading for him does us no good. I just want Orakpo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Moving up to get Sanchez is simply stupid, there is no other way to put it. Not only would we have to overpay with next year's picks to do it, but I just do not believe this kid is the one you make that move for. I'd feel a lot more comfortable if he had stayed another year, polished his skills and come out as a top pick a year from now. I can't help getting the feeling that he thinks he is "it" and that mentality is driving this whole media slobberfest. Orakpo looks like a good prosepct but the same thing applies, we simply cannot afford to pay the price to move up. Vinny and TheDan need to switch to decaf-STFU for a while so that sensible heads can prevail. Logic and common sense aren't fun, they are not headline grabbers, they don't get the buzz that generates headlines on E!SPN but that is exactly what we need more than anything, calm rational growth of the team. Address the needs of the O line first, look at LB and DE next, and let the coaches coach. Stop trying to find spinners for a Pinto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I have no idea who we draft. Last year I felt the same way and we take 3 WRs/TEs. I hope we don't trade down and get TWO QBs in the first round.... :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 wouldn't be the first time :hysterical: Jason LaCantora can be thanked for that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I hope we don't move up in the draft at all. We don't have alot of picks to begin with so I'm not really sure how we could move up in the draft without trading picks. I think one of our biggest needs in LB. I believe that Jansen/Heyer could hold down RT for this season if need be. I think Dockery come back will help out the line a great deal. I also believe that Wynn/Daniels can get in done at DE for the year. I wouldn't bet on anything past this year, but they can be servicable this year. The big question mark is OLB. I'm not sold on HB Blades playing strong side and I like the Chris Wilson idea, but not sure if it could really work. I wouldn't mind us drafting Cushing with #13 our trading down a little to still get him and get an extra pick. We really need a LB bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I have no idea who we draft.Last year I felt the same way and we take 3 WRs/TEs. I hope we don't trade down and get TWO QBs in the first round.... :doh: I think you just made my brain bleed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndorf25 Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Just thinking out loud here... So let's assume Snyder is looking to move up to the 4th spot with the intention of taking Sanchez before anyone else can. Seattle most likely would require this year's #13 overall pick and next year's 1st rounder as well (which might figure to be a fairly high pick...more on that later). I think I'd like to be Seattle in this deal. The Skins would now have a rookie QB in Sanchez, a lame-duck QB in JC (who apparently cannot be traded for anything higher than a 3rd round pick), no picks until the 3rd round and then only three more after that in the later rounds and no 1st rounder next year. Yet, unless the Skins get lucky with their late picks this year they will still most likely be looking to shore up at RT, DE, OLB and new spots might creep up next year that need attention like LT, RB, CB, MLB, OC heck even WR if Kelly and Thomas don't pan out. The wheels appear to be falling off, folks and if the Skins keep giving up picks because Snyder is "smitten" with one player or another there will be no team worth a damn for Sanchez to play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodus333 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Get your head out of your ass Dan, and do the smart thing for once........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folex Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I think we need to draft a QB. Not because we need one, JC I think will get the job done in his second year in the Zorn offense. We should draft Oline or Dline best player on the board trade down if we can if there is not good value at 13. But the front office has given up on JC. That to me means JC is done in DC. We will be looking for a QB in the draft next year and then still be behind on building the team. Which all this sucks because Big AL is on a four year deal in real life. So with the front office giving up on JC Are best option is to get Sanchez without giving up next years 1st. I think we then use next years 1st to get back in to the this years first and grab a player for the Oline. This To me is best case with the situation at hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I'm 100% against Sanchez in any form. I'm with question number 4, which puts me in a minority around here, but the article has the same point. Haynesworth can't make the Skins' pathetic d-line into a monster all by himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBSkin Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I thinks its pretty obvious that if they do indeed trade or even want to trade up for Sanchez.... We are f'in doomed. All that talk about the profound patience they learned and grew to understand is a bunch of horse$hit... This shows an utter and complete lack of patience, foresight and confidence in their abilities to build a winning footbal organization. Danny and Vinny run a long traditioned foottball franchise like a couple of adolescent pre-madonna, wanna-be, can't stop chasing the next best thing, IDIOTS. Every 1-2 years they scrap it and move in a new direction trying to chase the next best thing and catch lightning in a bottle. This team needs Zorn and Cambell to settle into this offense, they need to continue to groom and accrue young talent on the LINES and stop throwing draft picks away. I am so over this SOS! Here is to hoping that the Grace of God saves them from Satan and their lust again this year. Hopefully, the wake up and smell the roses and draft OT, DE and LB... O-Line must be addressed now! HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Only player I'd move up for is Curry. And I'd be on the phone with the Lions for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndorf25 Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 I'm 100% against Sanchez in any form. I'm with question number 4, which puts me in a minority around here, but the article has the same point. Haynesworth can't make the Skins' pathetic d-line into a monster all by himself. The only way that I am for the Skins drafting Sanchez AT #13 is if it is FACT that no matter how well JC plays, Snyder plans to get rid of him after his contract is up. Unfortunately, I believe that is the case. If so, then getting a QB that appears to have the qualities you want to sit for a year so that when the incumbent leaves, he can step in and take over. Now with that said, I am of the belief that you let JC essentially play for an extension this year and use the picks to improve that team around the QB position. This way, the team has a better chance of winning this year as opposed to selling the farm for a QB who most likely will be holding a clipboard for a year. ...of course this assumes that JC is not part of a trade deal to get Sanchez here. If this is the case then I think the Skins regress this year quite a bit with any one of the QBs on the roster starting (Sanchez, Collins or Brennan) and the attrition to the rest of the team will still be imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Once again, we need another team to save us from Danny and Vinny. The Bengals saved us when they insanely turned down two firsts for Chad Johnson. The Bears saved us when they turned down the 6th overall pick and probably more for Briggs. And now we need someone like the Seahawks to save us by taking Sanchez instead of two first round picks from us. Trading up for Sanchez -- who is so not ready -- would be the ultimate folly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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